Education and Training Statistics Working Group Meeting 5/6 June 2012 Item 4.1 Revised legal framework for CVT statistics Sylvain Jouhette 5/6 June 2012 1

Revised legal framework for CVT statistics Context and TF mandate Technical approach alternative sources Information to be maintained in the restricted CVT data collection Legal approach Next steps Technical discussions Consultations (DSS,BDSG) Adoption of revised legal framework in 2014 The ETS WG delegates are invited to: comment on the overall technical approach comment on the related proposals for legal acts agree on the next stages in particular on the next TF meetings Item 4.1 - CVTS

Mandate of the Task Force Context Negative priorities discussed at the ESS Committee Streamlining of LLL statistics New policy needs (e.g. Bruges Communiqué) CVTS 4 results not yet available Mandate of the Task Force Provide recommendations on CVT indicators in a coherent framework to reduce further overlapping of sources and burden on enterprises; Advise on related improvement of sources and define a restricted data collection on CVT (module) focussing on enterprises' strategies (and on enterprises’ costs if LCS is not a suitable alternative); Propose technical elements for revised legal acts (including setting up minimum quality requirements for outputs); Assess sustainability of proposals for lifelong learning and VET statistics, based in particular on first outcomes from CVTS 4. Item 4.1 - CVTS

CVT strategies and skill needs Technical approach Use of alternatives sources AES for hours and participation rates of individuals in CVT By age, gender, occupation, contract type Coherence of data by enterprise size by enterprise size and NACE? LFS data source for apprenticeship (number of) Labour Cost Survey for CVT costs of enterprises Focus on external costs Feasibility to be further discussed (e.g. quality, contributions/receipts) Adjustments might be possible but time consuming to process. CVT strategies and skill needs Free survey vehicle: stand-alone survey or module in exiting survey Some variables to be maintained in the restricted CVT data collection Breakdowns by hours in external/internal training Categorical variable on participation of employees Item 4.1 - CVTS

Repeal of current CVTS framework Regulation; Legal approach - framework Regulation Repeal of current CVTS framework Regulation; Regulation No 452/2008 on statistics on education and lifelong learning for defining new (restricted) data collection; Regulation Business Statistics (FRIBS) delayed: to be used later Legal approach - implementing Regulation Possible articles for the implementing act Content to be further discussed at technical level First proposal: see next Impact on the proposal on other sources (AES, LFS) To be further discussed at technical level (TF) List of discussion points in the document for this meeting Related to item 4.2 for LFS Item 4.1 – CVTS

Legal approach - implementing Regulation (Cont.) Proposed content of the implementation act Note (*): stand-alone survey Main indicators for EU policies: 6 topics instead of 14 - Investment in CVT - Characteristics of CVT - Employer strategies - Factors limiting the provision of CVT; - Employer assessments of skill needs and strategies to deal with skills shortages; - Quality assurance and evaluation of CVT in enterprises.

Two additional TF meetings Next steps Two additional TF meetings Dec 2012: alternative sources (costs, participation, hours) Distribution of employees by local unit vs enterprises by NACE and size; Accuracy/coherence of Labour Cost Survey data compared to CVTS; April 2013: implementation measures, timeliness, sector coverage, selection of variables on CVT strategies and skill needs Possible vehicles at national level (mainly qualitative variables) Coverage (public administration, health and education) 2012: Sept Consultation of DSS and BSDG 2013: June Consultation of the ETS WG Sept Consultation of the DSS and BSDG 2014: May Consultation of the ESS Committee June Draft regulation to European Parl and Council for scrutiny procedure Dec Adoption by the Commission / repeal in parallel Item 4.1 - CVTS

Revised legal framework for CVT statistics Technical approach alternative sources Information to be maintained in the restricted CVT data collection Legal approach Use of Framework Regulation on education and lifelong learning statistics Next steps Two additional TF meeting. Proposal for the 2014 ESS Committee meeting The ETS WG delegates are invited to: comment on the overall technical approach comment on the related proposals for legal acts agree on the next stages in particular on the next TF meetings Item 4.1 - CVTS 8

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Technical approach – Alternative sources Participation/hours: AES, LFS (apprentices) Costs (direct: 46.5%. PAC: 45.4%) Focus on external costs (a) and (b) …..+ (d)? (a) Fees and payments for courses for persons employed, (b) Travel and subsistence payments, (c) Labour costs of internal trainers for CVT courses, (d) Costs for training centre etc.; Use of LCS? Definition: Expenditure on participation in courses; the fees of instructors from outside the enterprise; expenditure on teaching aids and tools used for training; sums paid by the enterprise to vocational-training organisations, etc. Subsidies linked to vocational training should be deducted Expenditure on vocational-training services and facilities (also those for apprentices but not their wages and salaries), small repairs and maintenance of buildings and installations, excluding staff costs; Still to be clarified Contributions and receipts Frequencies of LCS & CVTS, use of different sources per country Item 2.2 - Participation and costs

CVTS vs AES results on hours of employer-sponsored training

2005 CVTS results on costs

2005 CVTS and 2008 LCS results on costs