doc.: IEEE P /1976r7 Submission July 2007 Donald Eastlake 3rd, MotorolaSlide 1 July 2007 Mesh Agenda Date: Authors: NameAddressCompanyPhone Donald Eastlake 3 rd 111 Locke Drive, Marlborough, MA USA Motorola
doc.: IEEE P /1976r7 Submission July 2007 Donald Eastlake 3rd, MotorolaSlide 2 IEEE s: ESS Mesh Networking Task Group TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away. San Francisco, California July, 2007 Chair: Donald E. Eastlake 3 rd., Motorola Technical Editor: Steve Conner, Intel Temporary Secretary: Dee Denteneer, Philips
doc.: IEEE P /1976r7 Submission July 2007 Donald Eastlake 3rd, MotorolaSlide 3 Venue Hyatt Regency, 5 Embarcadero Center, San Francisco, California
doc.: IEEE P /1976r7 Submission July 2007 Donald Eastlake 3rd, MotorolaSlide 4 General Flow of the TGs Meeting Monday Morning Ad Hoc –Administrivia and Status –Resolution of Comments, Improvement of the Draft Tuesday –Administrivia and Status –TGs Process Presentation –Resolution of Comments, Improvement of the Draft Wednesday –Security Presentations –Resolution of Comments, Improvement of the Draft Thursday –Resolution of Comments, Improvement of the Draft –TGs Process Discussion –Teleconferences/Ad-Hoc Meetings Discussion and Votes
doc.: IEEE P /1976r7 Submission July 2007 Donald Eastlake 3rd, MotorolaSlide 5 Monday, 16 July :00-11:00, Pacific Concourse D Call ad hoc meeting to Order Manual Attendance Reminder Selection of Temporary Secretary: Dee Denteneer Ad hoc Agenda approved by unanimous consent. Miscellaneous Announcements Review of IEEE 802 and Policies and Procedures on Intellectual Property, Inappropriate Topics, Etc. Status of TGs Draft and Letter Ballot –Draft D1.05, W. Steven Conner –“Resolution of comments received during IEEE Letter Ballot 93”, W. Steven Conner, 11-07/23r37
doc.: IEEE P /1976r7 Submission July 2007 Donald Eastlake 3rd, MotorolaSlide 6 Monday, 16 July :00-11:00, Pacific Concourse D (cont.) Interest in different subgroups? –MAC – 6, Security – 4, RFI – 5, General – 2; agree to break into subgroups to work on comment resolution after presentation of submisison. Resolution of Comments, Improvement of the Draft –“Mesh Local Synchronization”, Zhen Xie, 11-07/2096r0. Divide into subgroups: –MAC – Michelle Gong –RFI – Guenael Strutt –Security – Jesse Walker Adjourn ad hoc meeting
doc.: IEEE P /1976r7 Submission July 2007 Donald Eastlake 3rd, MotorolaSlide 7 Tuesday, 17 July :30-12:30, Pacific Concourse D Call to Order Attendance Recording Selection of Temporary Secretary: Dee Denteneer Review of IEEE 802 and Policies and Procedures on Intellectual Property and Inappropriate Topics Miscellaneous Announcements Agenda Approved by unanimous consent Approval of Minutes: –May 2007 Meeting Minutes, 11-07/746r0, approved by unanimous consent –Ad Hoc Meeting Minutes, approved by unanimous consent June (Hillsboro) Ad Hoc Meeting, 11-07/2009r0 16 July Ad Hoc Meeting, 11-07/2166r0 –Teleconference Minutes, approved by unanimous consent 23, 30 May 2007, 11-07/1961r0, 11-07/1966r0 20, 27 June 2007, 11-07/2015r0, 11-07/2042r0 11 July 2007, 11-07/2141r0
doc.: IEEE P /1976r7 Submission July 2007 Donald Eastlake 3rd, MotorolaSlide 8 Important Stuff Note the links from the items in red in the left column of all pages of the Working Group meeting agenda. –Affiliation Frequently Asked Questions: –Anti-Trust: –IEEE Ethics: –Letter of Assurance Form: –IEEE Patent Committee: –IEEE Patent Policy: –Patent FAQ:
doc.: IEEE P /1976r7 Submission July 2007 Donald Eastlake 3rd, MotorolaSlide 9 Miscellaneous Announcements Warning: Do not leave your laptops unattended! –The meeting is not responsible for your unwatched stuff. Wear your badge at all times in the meeting area! Individual membership –In all IEEE standards meetings, membership is by individual, hence you do not represent a company or organization. Photographs and Recordings –No sound recordings are permitted at WG or TG meetings. –No photographs allowed without WG Chair permission. Media – Press and Analyst briefings –Only the /.15/.18/.19/.22 WG Chair and WG Vice-Chairs are allowed to give verbal statements/interviews to the media on behalf of their respective IEEE working groups
doc.: IEEE P /1976r7 Submission July 2007 Donald Eastlake 3rd, MotorolaSlide 10 Member Affiliation It is defined in the IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws, as: “An individual is deemed “affiliated” with any individual or entity that has been, or will be, financially or materially supporting that individual’s participation in a particular IEEE standards activity. This includes, but is not limited to, his or her employer and any individual or entity that has or will have, either directly or indirectly, requested, paid for, or otherwise sponsored his or her participation.
doc.: IEEE P /1976r7 Submission July 2007 Donald Eastlake 3rd, MotorolaSlide 11 Declaration of Affiliation Revision: Feb 2006 Standards Board Bylaw – Openness Openness is defined as the quality of being not restricted to a particular type or category of participants. All meetings involving standards development an all IEEE Sponsor ballots shall be open to all interested parties. Each individual participant in IEEE Standards activities shall disclose his or her affiliations when requested. A person who knows or reasonably should know, that a participant’s disclosure is materially incomplete or incorrect should report that fact to the Secretary of the IEEE-SA Standards Board and the appropriate Sponsors.
doc.: IEEE P /1976r7 Submission July 2007 Donald Eastlake 3rd, MotorolaSlide 12 Affiliation Policy Requirement to declare affiliation at all standards development meetings and recorded in the minutes –Affiliation not necessarily same as employer –Declaration requirement may be familiar to some 802 WGs, though WG declaration process may evolve 11. What if I refuse to disclose my affiliation? –As outlined in IEEE-SA governance documents, you will lose certain rights. In a working group where voting rights are gained through attendance, no attendance credit will be granted if affiliation isn’t declared. Similarly, voting rights are to be removed if affiliation isn’t declared. Affiliation declaration will be added to Sponsor ballot
doc.: IEEE P /1976r7 Submission July 2007 Donald Eastlake 3rd, MotorolaSlide 13 Automated Attendance Recording Go to (Documents: or or just –Sign-in –Claim attendance credit for each session. Only “sign-in” and “claim credit” for yourself, do NOT “sign-in” for others. You have to log in every session! Do NOT use 802wirelessworld for anything!
doc.: IEEE P /1976r7 Submission July 2007 Donald Eastlake 3rd, MotorolaSlide 14 Tuesday, 17 July :30-12:30, Pacific Concourse D (cont.) Presentation and Discussion on Process –“TGs Process, July”, Donald Eastlake 3rd, 11-07/2142r0 Status of TGs Draft and Letter Ballot –Draft D1.05, W. Steven Conner –“Resolution of comments received during IEEE Letter Ballot 93”, W. Steven Conner, 11-07/23r37 “Mesh Frame Formats”, Steve Conner, 11-07/2201r0 (word 11-07/799r8) –Moved, to adopt the submission contained in document 11-07/799r8 to resolve all of the open CIDs labeled with issue identifier G11 (frame formats) in /23r37, and instruct the editor to incorporate the changes into the draft –Moved: Steve Conner Seconded: Joseph Kim –Adopted by unanimous consent. “Power Management and Path Selection”, Michelle Gong, 11-07/2095r2 “Path Selection and Power Save”, Guenael Strutt, 11-07/2181r0
doc.: IEEE P /1976r7 Submission July 2007 Donald Eastlake 3rd, MotorolaSlide 15 Tuesday, 17 July :30-12:30, Pacific Concourse D (cont.) Three straw polls from 11-07/2095r2: –Should MPs in PS mode participate in path selection instead of acting only as a leaf node? Yes: 12 No: 0 –Should MPs that act as forwarding nodes operate in PS modes? Yes: 5 No: 5 –Should main-powered MPs and battery-powered MPs be treated differently in the path selection process? Yes: 13 No: 3 Recess until 08:00 Wednesday
doc.: IEEE P /1976r7 Submission July 2007 Donald Eastlake 3rd, MotorolaSlide 16 Wednesday, 18 July :00-10:00, Grand Ballroom C IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Agreed by unanimous consent to insert the comment resolutions in 11-07/2217r0 into the comment resolution spread sheet as Open. Security Presentations –“Updates on PLM protocol”, Meiyuan Zhao, 11-07/2174r1 Moved, to adopt the changes in 11-07/2174r1 and direct the editor to incorporate them into the Draft. –Moved: Meiyuan Zhao Seconded: Guenael Strutt –Adopted by unanimous consent –“Abbreviated Handshake Updates and Design Rationale”, Meiyuan Zhao, 11-07/2176r0 (doc /1999r2)
doc.: IEEE P /1976r7 Submission July 2007 Donald Eastlake 3rd, MotorolaSlide 17 Wednesday, 18 July :00-10:00, Grand Ballroom C (cont.) Security Presentations (cont.) –“Overview of Improvements to Key Holder Protocols”, Steve Emeott, 11-07/1988r1 (doc /1987r1) Motion, to adopt the comment resolutions in 11-07/1987r1 and direct the editor to incorporate them into the Draft. –Moved: Steve Emeott Seconded: Guenael Strutt –Adopted by unanimous consent –“Mesh Pre-Shared Key Clarification”, Steve Emeott, 11-07/2037r0 Motion, to adopt the comment resolutions in 11-07/2037r0 and direct the editor ot incorporate them into the Draft. –Moved: Steve Emeott Seconded: Hrishi Moved to postone to the afternoon session –Moved: Malik Audeh Seconded Jorjeta Jetcheva –Postponed by unanimous consent –“Summary of Updates to MSA Overview and MKD Functionality Text”, Steve Emeott, 11-07/2179r0 (doc /2119r0)
doc.: IEEE P /1976r7 Submission July 2007 Donald Eastlake 3rd, MotorolaSlide 18 Wednesday, 18 July :00-10:00, Grand Ballroom C (cont.) “Intra-Mesh Congestion Control Comment Resolution”, Bahareh Sadeghi, 11-07/456r2 –Moved, to adopt the changes in 11-07/456r2 with the last two occurrences of “transmission” changed to “frame” in the informative note at the end to resolve Open comments with issue identifiers M1 and Congestion Control and direct the editor to incorporate them in the Draft. Moved: Bahareh Sagedhi Seconded: Michael Bahr Adopted by unanimous consent Recess until 13:30
doc.: IEEE P /1976r7 Submission July 2007 Donald Eastlake 3rd, MotorolaSlide 19 Wednesday, 18 July :30-15:30, Pacific Concourse E IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Motion, to adopt the comment resolutions in /2037r0 and direct the editor to incorporate them into the Draft. –Moved: Steve Emeott Seconded: Hrishikesh Gossain –Yes: 11 No: 4 Abstain: 13 (< ¾ fails) “Simulation Results”, Mathilde Benveniste, 11-07/2180r0 “Suggested Comment Resolution to CID 4491”, Michelle Gong for Kazayuki Sakoda, 11-07/2146r1 –Moved, to adopt the changes in 11-07/2146r1 as the resolution of CID 4491 and direct the editor to incorporate them into the Draft. –Moved: Michelle Gong Seconded: Dee Denteneer –Adopted by unanimous consent
doc.: IEEE P /1976r7 Submission July 2007 Donald Eastlake 3rd, MotorolaSlide 20 Wednesday, 18 July :30-15:30, Pacific Concourse E (cont.) “MDA Assorted Comments”, Dee Denteneer, 11-07/2005r2 –Unanimous straw poll consensus in favor of defining separate frame formats rather than one container frame format for MDA. –Moved, to adopt the resolutions of CIDs 862, 530, 268, 3553, 1044, and 1856 in 11-07/2005r2 and direct the editor to incorporate them in the Draft. –Moved: Dee Denteneer Seconded: –Adopted by unanimous consent “HWMP Frame Formats”, Hrishikesh Gossain, 2199r0 –Moved, to adopt the resolution of CIDs 5139 in 11-07/2199r0 and direct the editor to incorporate it in the Draft. –Moved: Hrishikesh Gossain Seconded: Dee Denteneer –Adopted by unanimous consent.
doc.: IEEE P /1976r7 Submission July 2007 Donald Eastlake 3rd, MotorolaSlide 21 Wednesday, 18 July :30-15:30, Pacific Concourse E (cont.) “Suggested Editorial Updates on Information Element Lengths”, Steve Conner for Kazuyuki Sakoda, /2152r1 –Moved, to adopt the changes in 11-07/2152r1 and direct the Editor to incorporate them into the Draft. –Moved: Steve Conner Seconded: Michelle Gong –The chair ruled this to be an editorial change. Adopted by unanimous consent “Mesh Frame Format and Addressing”, Kevin Hayes, 1989r1 Recess until 08:00 Thursday
doc.: IEEE P /1976r7 Submission July 2007 Donald Eastlake 3rd, MotorolaSlide 22 Thursday, 19 July :00-10:00, Pacific Concourse D IPR and Attendance recording reminder Motion, to adopt the comment resolutions in 11-07/2119r0 and direct the editor ot incorporate them into the Draft. Resolution of Comments, Improvement of the Draft Recess until 16:00
doc.: IEEE P /1976r7 Submission July 2007 Donald Eastlake 3rd, MotorolaSlide 23 Presentations Queue “Power-Save Aware Route Metrics ”, James Yee, /2200r0 (req. Thur.) “Synchronization Issues”, Dee Denteneer, 11-07/2000r1 “RA-OLSR Comment Resolution”, Joseph Kim, /2125r0 (word 11-07/2124r0)
doc.: IEEE P /1976r7 Submission July 2007 Donald Eastlake 3rd, MotorolaSlide 24 Thursday, 19 July :00-18:00, Pacific Concourse D IPR and Attendance recording reminder Discussion and Votes re Process – “TGs Process, July”, Donald Eastlake 3rd, 11-07/2142r1 Moved, To adopt all Open comment resolutions marked with proposed resolution of Accept, Counter, or Reject in 11-07/23rTBD except CIDs YYYY. –Moved: Seconded: –Yes: No: Abstain:
doc.: IEEE P /1976r7 Submission July 2007 Donald Eastlake 3rd, MotorolaSlide 25 Thursday, 19 July :00-18:00, Pacific Concourse D Moved, to authorize weekly teleconferences …. –Moved: Seconded: –Yes: No: Abstain: Moved, to direct the Editor to produce one or more revisions of the Draft so as to incorporate all changes and comment resolutions adopted before this motion. –Moved: Seconded: –Yes: No: Abstain:
doc.: IEEE P /1976r7 Submission July 2007 Donald Eastlake 3rd, MotorolaSlide 26 Thursday, 17 May :00-18:00, Pacific Concourse D (cont.) Straw Poll, When will we go to Letter Ballot again? –From September Meeting: After September Meeting: Other Technical Presentations –“Plans for an open implementation”, Javier Cordona, /2164r1. Adjourn sine die TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away.
doc.: IEEE P /1976r7 Submission July 2007 Donald Eastlake 3rd, MotorolaSlide 27 [Reference Information] PAR for IEEE ESS Mesh: 11-04/54r2. Trivial update at Five Criteria for IEEE ESS Mesh: 11-04/56r1. Pending Amendment to PAR and 5 Criterion: 11-07/149r5. Comment Resolution Spreadsheet for Current Draft D1.05: –11-07/23r38: Resolution of comments received during IEEE Letter Ballot 93 Confirmed Proposal on which Draft D0.01 was based: –11-06/328r0: Joint SEE-Mesh/Wi-Mesh Proposal to TGs –11-06/329r3: Joint SEE-Mesh/Wi-Mesh Proposal to TGs Overview Adopted Task Group Working Documents (other than Drafts) –11-04/1477r4: Terms and Definitions for s –11-04/1174r13: Functional Specification and Scope –11-04/1175r10: Comparison Categories and Informative Checklists –11-04/662r16: Usage Models –11-04/1543r4: Informative Reference Bibliography for s
doc.: IEEE P /1976r7 Submission July 2007 Donald Eastlake 3rd, MotorolaSlide 28 [Earlier Meeting Minutes] Task Group “s” Meeting Minutes –May 2007, Montreal, Quebec, 11-07/746r0 April 2007 ad hoc Meeting, Eindhoven, Netherlands, 11-07/559r1 –March 2007, Orlando, Florida, 11-07/413r0 February 2007 ad hoc Meeting, Hillsboro, Oregon, 11-07/240r0 –January 2007, London, England, 11-07/92r0 –November 2006, Dallas, Texas, 11-06/1788r0 November 2006 ad hoc, Munich, Germany, 11-06/1652r1 –September 2006, Melbourne, Australia, 11-06/1565r0 –July 2006 San Diego, California, 11-06/1007r0 June 2006 Ad Hoc Meeting, Hillsboro, Oregon, 11-06/849r0 –May 2006 Meeting, Jacksonville, Florida, 11-06/775r0 –March 2006 Meeting, Denver, Colorado, 11-06/445r0 Recent Teleconference Minutes 28 March 2007, 11-07/519r0 4, 25 April 2007, 11-07/528r0, 11-07/571r0 2, 9 May 2007, 11-07/585r0, 11-07/620r0