1. January 2008 Mesh Meeting Agenda
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January 2008 Mesh Meeting Agenda
Date:
Authors:
Name
Address
Affiliations
Phone
Donald Eastlake 3rd
111 Locke Drive, Marlborough, MA USA
Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

2. IEEE 802.11s: Mesh Networking Task Group
January 2008
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IEEE s: Mesh Networking Task Group
TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away.
Taipei, Taiwan
14-17 January, 2008
Chair: Donald E. Eastlake 3rd., Motorola
Technical Editor: Vacant
Temporary Secretary: Dee Denteneer, Philips
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

3. doc.: IEEE P802.11-07/2933r8 The Howard Plaza Hotel, Taipei, Taiwan
January 2008
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Venue
The Howard Plaza Hotel, Taipei, Taiwan
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

4. General Flow of the TGs Meeting
January 2008
General Flow of the TGs Meeting
Monday
Administrivia and Status
TGs Process Presentation
Resolution of Comments, Improvement of the Draft
Tuesday
Wednesday
Security Presentations
Thursday
TGs Process Discussion
Go to Letter Ballot?
Teleconferences/Ad-Hoc Meetings Discussion and Votes
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

5. Monday, 14 January 2008 13:30-15:30, Banquet Room III, B2
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Monday, 14 January :30-15:30, Banquet Room III, B2
Call meeting to Order
Temporary Secretary selection
Dee Denteneer
Miscellaneous Announcements
Review of IEEE 802 and Policies and Procedures on Intellectual Property, Inappropriate Topics, Etc.
Agenda Approved by unanimous consent
Approval of Minutes:
November 2007 Meeting Minutes, 11-07/2826r1
Approved by unanimous consent
Teleconference Minutes Approved by unanimous consent:
21 November 2007, 11-07/2934r0
9 January, 11-08/41r0
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Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

6. January 2008
Important Stuff
Note the links from the items in red in the left column of all pages of the Working Group meeting agenda.
Affiliation Frequently Asked Questions:
Anti-Trust:
IEEE Ethics:
Letter of Assurance Form:
IEEE Patent Committee:
IEEE Patent Policy:
Patent FAQ:
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7. Miscellaneous Announcements
January 2008
Miscellaneous Announcements
Warning: Do not leave your laptops unattended!
The meeting is not responsible for your unwatched stuff.
Wear your badge at all times in the meeting area!
Individual membership
In all IEEE standards meetings, membership is by individual, hence you do not represent a company or organization.
Photographs and Recordings
No sound recordings are permitted at WG or TG meetings.
No photographs allowed without WG Chair permission.
Media – Press and Analyst briefings
Only the /.15/.18/.19/.22 WG Chair and WG Vice-Chairs are allowed to give verbal statements/interviews to the media on behalf of their respective IEEE working groups
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Affiliation
It is defined in the IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws, as: “An individual is deemed “affiliated” with any individual or entity that has been, or will be, financially or materially supporting that individual’s participation in a particular IEEE standards activity. This includes, but is not limited to, his or her employer and any individual or entity that has or will have, either directly or indirectly, requested, paid for, or otherwise sponsored his or her participation.
Revision: Feb 2006 Standards Board Bylaw
Openness is defined as the quality of being not restricted to a particular type or category of participants. All meetings involving standards development an all IEEE Sponsor ballots shall be open to all interested parties. Each individual participant in IEEE Standards activities shall disclose his or her affiliations when requested. A person who knows or reasonably should know, that a participant’s disclosure is materially incomplete or incorrect should report that fact to the Secretary of the IEEE-SA Standards Board and the appropriate Sponsors.
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

9. Automated Attendance Recording
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Automated Attendance Recording
Go to (Documents: or or just
Sign-in
Claim attendance credit for each session.
Only “sign-in” and “claim credit” for yourself, do NOT “sign-in” for others.
You have to log in every session!
Do NOT use 802wirelessworld for anything!
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

10. Monday, 14 January 2008 13:30-15:30, Banquet Room III, B2
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Monday, 14 January :30-15:30, Banquet Room III, B2
Status of TGs Draft and Letter Ballot
Draft D1.07
“Resolution of comments received during IEEE Letter Ballot 93”, 11-07/23r51
Changes adopted to D1.07 not in 11-07/23r51
    Date Submission      Title     11/15/2007    11-07/2839r3    Key Usage Update on Peer Link Management     11/15/2007    11-07/2882r0    Editorial Fixes for TGs D1.07     11/14/2007    11-07/2855r0    A More Efficient KDF     11/14/2007    11-07/2816r0    Minor Text Updates for Abbreviated Handshake
Presentation and Discussion on Process
“TGs Process, September”, Donald Eastlake 3rd, 11-08/82r0
“Mesh QoS Control”, Alexander Safonov (LG), 11-08/0068r0, 11-08/0069r0
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Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

11. Monday, 14 January 2008 13:30-15:30, Banquet Room III, B2
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“Peer Service Period”, Jarkko Knecht, 11-08/103r0
Straw Poll: What is the most useful peer service period type(s) to include in s?
(Unidirectional) Peer Service Period: 0
Bi-directional Peer Service period: 2
Both: 7
“Power Save in Mesh”, Jarkko Knecht, 11-08/102r0
Recess until 19:30
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

12. Monday, 14 January 2008 19:30-21:30, Banquet Room III, B2
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Monday, 14 January :30-21:30, Banquet Room III, B2
Call meeting to Order
IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder
“Suggested resolution to Sync, APSD, etc, comments”, Kazuyuki Sakoda, 11-08/108r0
“Suggested resolution text relating to sync, APSD, etc”, Kazuyuki Sakoda, 11-08/107r0
“Improvements to Power Savings”, Michelle Gong, 11-08/110r0
Recess until 8:00 Tuesday
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

13. Tuesday, 15 January 2008 8:00-10:00, Banquet Room III, B2
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Tuesday, 15 January :00-10:00, Banquet Room III, B2
Call Meeting to Order
IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder
Interest in subgroups: Gen 1, MAC 10, RFI 0, Sec 2
Subpoll: Power Save 9, Other MAC 4
Divide into ad hoc subgroups
Power Save – Jarkko Knecht
MAC – Kazuyuki Sakoda
Security – Jesse Walker
Reconvene, Reports
Security: Have proposed resolutions for all remaining Open comments in 11-08/127.
MAC: Have been working on submission 11-08/108.
Recess until 13:30
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Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

14. Tuesday, 15 January 2008 13:30-15:30, Banquet Room III, B2
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Tuesday, 15 January :30-15:30, Banquet Room III, B2
IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder
“Suggested resolutions to remaining security comments”, Tony Braskich, 11-08/0127r0
“Mesh Pre-Shared Key Clarification”, Tony Braskich, 11-07/2037r1
Interest in subgroups: Power Save: 8, Other MAC 3
Divide into ad hoc subgroups
Power Save – Jarkko Knecht
MAC – Kazuyuki Sakoda
Recess until 16:00
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Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

15. Tuesday, 15 January 2008 16:00-18:00, Banquet Room III, B2
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Tuesday, 15 January :00-18:00, Banquet Room III, B2
IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder
“Suggested resolution to Sync, APSD, etc, comments”, Kazuyuki Sakoda, 11-08/108r2
“Suggested resolution text relating to sync”, APSD, etc”, 11-08/107r0
“MDA MIB variable”, 11-08/117r1
“Peer Service Period”, Jarkko Knecht, 11-08/103r1
Divide into ad hoc subgroups
Power Save – Jarkko Knecht
MAC – Kazuyuki Sakoda
Recess until 19:30
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

16. Tuesday, 15 January 2008 19:30-21:30, Banquet Room III, B2
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Tuesday, 15 January :30-21:30, Banquet Room III, B2
IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder
“Mesh Regulatory Class Switch”, Alexander Safonov, 11-08/0072r1
The 3 Open RFI comments and the General CIDs 98 and 3847 were considered and TGs came up with tentative resolutions for them.
Recess until 08:00 Wednesday
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Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

17. Wednesday, 16 January 2008 8:00-10:00, Lily+Jasmine+Hibiscus+Rose, B2
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Wednesday, 16 January :00-10:00, Lily+Jasmine+Hibiscus+Rose, B2
IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder
Security Presentations:
“Password Authenticated Key Exchange”, Dan Harkins, 11-08/45r1
“Key Hierarchy Nonce Removal”, Tony Braskich, 11-08/27r0
Moved, to adopt the normative text in document 11-08/0027r1, “Key Hierarchy Nonce Removal” and direct the Editor to incorporate it into the TGs draft.
Adopted by unanimous consent.
“Mesh Key Deletion Clarification”, Tony Braskich, 11-08/128r0
Moved, to adopt the normative text in document 11-07/2037r1, “Mesh Pre-Shared Key Clarification”, resolving CIDs 1345, 1614, 1615, 1616, 2975, 4750, & 4758, and direct the Editor to incorporate it into the TGs draft.
Moved: Tony Braskich Seconded: Guenael Strutt
Yes: 7 No: 3 Abstain: 6 (fails < ¾)
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

18. Wednesday, 16 January 2008 8:00-10:00, Lily+Jasmine+Hibiscus+Rose, B2
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Wednesday, 16 January :00-10:00, Lily+Jasmine+Hibiscus+Rose, B2
Moved, to adopt the comment resolutions in 11-08/0127r0, “Suggested resolutions to remaining security comments” except those for CIDs 1345, 1614, 1615, 1616, 2975, 4750, & 4758.
Moved: Tony Braskich Seconded: Guido Hiertz
Yes: 9 No: 0 Abstain: 5 (passes > ¾)
“Five Comment Resolutions”, Donald Eastlake 3rd, 11-08/140r0.
“Text Updates for Binding of Peer Link and Security Association”, Jesse Walker, 11-08/119r0
“Suggested resolution text relating to mesh beaconing behavior”, Michelle Gong, 11-08/147r0
Divide into ad hoc subgroups:
MAC – Kazuyuki Sakoda
Security – Jesse Walker
Reconvene
Recess until 13:30
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Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

19. Wednesday, 16 January 2008 13:30-14:30, Lily+Jasmine+Hibiscus+Rose, B2
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Wednesday, 16 January :30-14:30, Lily+Jasmine+Hibiscus+Rose, B2
IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder
Moved, to adopt 11-08/0072r1 “Normative Text for Mesh Regulatory Class Switch”, direct the editor to incorporate the changes into the Draft, and resolve CIDs 1370, 1642, 1916 and 2040.
Moved: Seconded:
Yes: No: Abstain:
Moved, to adopt the normative text in document 11-08/0128r0, “Mesh Key Deletion Clarification” and direct the Editor to incorporate it into the TGs draft.
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

20. Wednesday, 16 January 2008 13:30-14:30, Lily+Jasmine+Hibiscus+Rose, B2
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Moved, to adopt the resolutions to CIDs 98, 3639, 3847, 4380, and 4411 in 11-08/140r0 “Five Comment Resolutions” and direct the Editor to incorporate the change resolving CID 3847 into the Draft.
Moved: Seconded:
Yes: No: Abstain:
Moved, to adopt the normative text in document 11-08/119r0 and direct the Editor to incorporate it into the Draft.
Resolution of Comments, Improvement of the Draft
Adjourn until 13:30 Thursday
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

21. Submissions to be Presented
January 2008
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Submissions to be Presented
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Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

22. Thursday, 17 January 2008 10:30-13:30, Banquet Room III, B2
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Thursday, 17 January :30-13:30, Banquet Room III, B2
IPR and Attendance recording reminder
Moved, to adopt the normative text in 11-08/147r0 and direct the Editor to incorporate it into the Draft.
Moved: Seconded:
Yes: No: Abstain:
Resolution of Comments, Improvement of the Draft
Recess until 13:30
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

23. Thursday, 17 January 2008 13:30-15:30, Banquet Room III, B2
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Thursday, 17 January :30-15:30, Banquet Room III, B2
IPR and Attendance recording reminder
Moved, To adopt all Open comment resolutions marked with proposed resolution of Accept, Counter, or Reject in 11-07/23rTBD.
Discussion and Votes re Process
“TGs Process, July”, Donald Eastlake 3rd, 11-07/TBDr1
Moved, to Close all remaining open comments in 11-07/23rTBD with the disposition Reject and the Resolution Note “TGs believes that it needs additional input through a WG Letter Ballot.”
Technical Editor Selection
Moved, to direct the Editor to produce one or more revisions of the Draft so as to incorporate all changes and comment resolutions adopted before the end of this session.
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

24. Thursday, 17 January 2008 13:30-15:30, (cont.)
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Thursday, 17 January :30-15:30, (cont.)
Moved, to approve and forward the following motion to the Working Group: “Moved, to authorize a 15-Day Procedural Letter Ballot to approve sending s Draft D2.0 to 30-Day Letter Ballot.”
Straw Poll: If we pass Letter Ballot, does TGs want D2.0 to be available for purchase from IEEE?
If we do not go to Letter Ballot:
Straw Poll on when to hold teleconferences:
Moved, to authorize weekly teleconferences from January through March meetings, starting 1 August through 26 September, Wednesdays, except during face to face meetings, at TBDam/pm.
Straw Poll, When will we go to Letter Ballot again?
Other Technical Presentations
Adjourn sine die
TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away.
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

25. [Reference Information]
January 2008
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[Reference Information]
Updated version at
Original PAR for IEEE ESS Mesh: 11-04/54r2. Original Five Criteria for IEEE ESS Mesh: 11-04/56r1.
Comment Resolution Spreadsheet for Current Draft D1.07:
11-07/23r51: Resolution of comments received during IEEE Letter Ballot 93
Confirmed Proposal on which Draft D0.01 was based:
11-06/328r0: Joint SEE-Mesh/Wi-Mesh Proposal to TGs
11-06/329r3: Joint SEE-Mesh/Wi-Mesh Proposal to TGs Overview
Adopted Task Group Working Documents (other than Drafts)
11-04/1477r4: Terms and Definitions for s
11-04/1174r13: Functional Specification and Scope
11-04/1175r10: Comparison Categories and Informative Checklists
11-04/662r16: Usage Models
11-04/1543r4: Informative Reference Bibliography for s
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Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

26. [Earlier Meeting Minutes]
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[Earlier Meeting Minutes]
Task Group “s” Meeting Minutes
November 2007, Atlanta, Georgia, 11-07/2826r1
September 2007, Waikoloa, Hawai‘i, 11-07/2495r0
September 2007, ad hoc Meeting, Līhu‘e, Kaua‘i, Hawai‘i, 11-07/2413r0
July 2007, San Francisco, California, 11-07/2277r0
June 2007, ad hoc Meeting, Hillsboro, Oregon, 11-07/2009r0
May 2007, Montreal, Quebec, 11-07/746r0
April 2007 ad hoc Meeting, Eindhoven, Netherlands, 11-07/559r1
March 2007, Orlando, Florida, 11-07/413r0
February 2007 ad hoc Meeting, Hillsboro, Oregon, 11-07/240r0
January 2007, London, England, 11-07/92r0
November 2006, Dallas, Texas, 11-06/1788r0
November 2006 ad hoc, Munich, Germany, 11-06/1652r1
Recent Teleconference Minutes
26 September 2007, 11-07/2617r0
10, 17, 24, 31 October 2007, 11-07/2638r0, 11-07/2650r0, 11-07/2666r0, 11-7/2698r0
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola