1. January 2009 Mesh Meeting Agenda
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January 2009
January 2009 Mesh Meeting Agenda
Date:
Authors:
Name
Address
Affiliation
Phone
Donald Eastlake 3rd
155 Beaver Street, Milford, MA USA
Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

2. IEEE 802.11s: Mesh Networking Task Group
January 2009
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IEEE s: Mesh Networking Task Group
TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away.
Los Angeles, California
19-22 January, 2009
Chair: Donald E. Eastlake 3rd (Motorola)
Temporary Technical Editor: Kazuyuki Sakoda (Sony)
Secretary: Stephen Rayment (BelAir Networks)
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

3. doc.: IEEE P802.11-08/1443r6 Hyatt Century Plaza Los Angeles
January 2009
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January 2009
Venue
Hyatt Century Plaza Los Angeles
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Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

4. General Flow of the TGs Meeting
January 2009
General Flow of the TGs Meeting
Monday
Administrivia and Status
TGs Process Presentation
Resolution of Comments and Improvement of the Draft
Tuesday
Wednesday
Security Presentations
Thursday
TGs Process Discussion
Teleconferences/Ad-Hoc Meetings Discussion and Votes
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5. Monday, 19 January 2009 19:30–21:30, Constellation II Room
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Monday, 19 January :30–21:30, Constellation II Room
Call ad hoc meeting to Order
Miscellaneous Announcements
Review of IEEE 802 and Policies and Procedures on Intellectual Property, Inappropriate Topics, Etc.
Agenda Approved by unanimous consent
Approval of Minutes:
Dallas meeting minutes: 11-08/1431r0
Approved by unanimous consent
Teleconference minutes approved by unanimous consent:
December 3, 17, 11-08/1449r0, 11-08/1464r0
January 7, 11-09/16r0
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Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

6. January 2009
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Monday, 19 January :30– 21:30
Status of TGs Draft 2.06 and Comment Resolutions
“Some Notes from the Editor”, Kazuyuki Sakoda, 11-09/92r0
“Resolution of comments from Letter Ballot 126”, 11-08/493r32
The substance of comments 374, 763, and 1065 are not to be discussed
Presentation and Discussion on Process
“TGs Process, January”, Donald Eastlake 3rd, 11-08/1326r1
Resolution of comments and improvement of the Draft
Moved, To update the comment resolution spreadsheet 11-08/493, based on the adoption of 11-08/1120r3 by TGs at the September meeting, by Closing the following CIDs with Counter: 340, 816, 867, 872, 964, 990, 1029, 1470, 1780, and 1816.
Approved by unanimous consent
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

7. January 2009
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Monday, 19 January :30– 21:30
“ERP Protection in IEEE s Mesh Network”, 11-08/1468r2, Ashish Shukla (Marvell)
Straw Poll: Do you think that ERP protection in 11s mesh network is not clear?
Yes: No: Abstain: 11
Recess until 10:30 Tuesday
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Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

8. Miscellaneous Announcements
January 2009
Miscellaneous Announcements
Warning: Do not leave your laptops unattended!
The meeting is not responsible for your unwatched stuff.
Wear your badge at all times in the meeting area!
Individual membership
In all IEEE standards meetings, membership is by individual, hence you do not represent a company or organization.
Photographs and Recordings
No sound recordings are permitted at WG or TG meetings.
No photographs allowed without WG Chair permission.
Media – Press and Analyst briefings
Only the /.15/.18/.19/.22 WG Chair and WG Vice-Chairs are allowed to give verbal statements/interviews to the media on behalf of their respective IEEE working group.
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9. January 2009
Important Stuff
Note the links from the items in red in the left column of all pages of the Working Group meeting agenda.
Affiliation Frequently Asked Questions:
Anti-Trust:
IEEE Ethics:
Letter of Assurance Form:
IEEE Patent Committee:
IEEE Patent Policy:
Patent FAQ:
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10. Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform
January 2009
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Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform
All participants in this meeting have certain obligations under the IEEE-SA Patent Policy. Participants:
“Shall inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of each “holder of any potential Essential Patent Claims of which they are personally aware” if the claims are owned or controlled by the participant or the entity the participant is from, employed by, or otherwise represents
“Personal awareness” means that the participant “is personally aware that the holder may have a potential Essential Patent Claim,” even if the participant is not personally aware of the specific patents or patent claims
“Should inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of “any other holders of such potential Essential Patent Claims” (that is, third parties that are not affiliated with the participant, with the participant’s employer, or with anyone else that the participant is from or otherwise represents)
The above does not apply if the patent claim is already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance that applies to the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group
Quoted text excerpted from IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws subclause 6.2
Early identification of holders of potential Essential Patent Claims is strongly encouraged
No duty to perform a patent search
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Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

11. Patent Related Links
January 2009
All participants should be familiar with their obligations under the IEEE-SA Policies & Procedures for standards development.
Patent Policy is stated in these sources:
IEEE-SA Standards Boards Bylaws
IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual
Material about the patent policy is available at
If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at or visit
This slide set is available at
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12. Call for Potentially Essential Patents
January 2009
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Call for Potentially Essential Patents
If anyone in this meeting is personally aware of the holder of any patent claims that are potentially essential to implementation of the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group and that are not already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance:
Either speak up now or
Provide the chair of this group with the identity of the holder(s) of any and all such claims as soon as possible or
Cause an LOA to be submitted
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

13. Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings
January 2009
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Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings
All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws.
Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims.
Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions.
Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches may be discussed in standards development meetings.
Technical considerations remain primary focus
Don’t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets.
Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation.
Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed … do formally object.
See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause and “Promoting Competition and Innovation: What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy” for more details.
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

14. Automated Attendance Recording
January 2009
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Automated Attendance Recording
Go to (Documents: or or just
Sign-in
Claim attendance credit for each session.
Only “sign-in” and “claim credit” for yourself, do NOT “sign-in” for others.
You have to log in every session!
Do NOT use 802wirelessworld for anything!
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Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

15. Tuesday, 20 January 2009 10:30 – 12:30, Constellation II Room
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Tuesday, 20 January :30 – 12:30, Constellation II Room
Call Meeting to Order
IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder
“Comment Resolution Plan”, 11-09/53r3, Guenael Strutt (Motorola)
“A vendor specific plan for centralized security”, 11-09/114r1, Tony Braskich (Motorola)
Straw Poll: Do you support the plan outlined in r1?
Yes: No: 0 Don’t Know: 5
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Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

16. Tuesday, 20 January 2009 10:30 – 12:30, Constellation II Room
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Tuesday, 20 January :30 – 12:30, Constellation II Room
Straw Polls from 11-08/1468r2:
Straw Poll: Do you think that 11s should define new rules to integrate ERP protection into 11s draft?
Yes: No: Abstain: 12
Straw Poll: Subgroup interest?
MAC: 3 RFI: 0 Security: 6 General: 1
Divide into subgroups:
Security – Jesse Walker
MAC – Kazuyuki Sakoda
Recombine and recess until 13:30
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Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

17. Pending Presentations / Straw Polls
January 2009
Pending Presentations / Straw Polls
“Congestion Control Comments Resolution”, 11-08/1463r0 (11-08/1465r1), Bahareh Sadeghi (Intel)
“11s Architecture and MIB Structure”, 11-09/52r2, Liwen Chu (STMicrosystems)
“… RFI …”, 11-09/tbd, Guenael Strutt (Motorola)
Straw Poll: Which solution from 11-08/1468r2 do you vote for ?
Solution 1: Solution 2: Solution 3: None: Abstain:
Straw Poll: Do you think that solutions described in 11-08/1468r2 address ERP protection problem and should be included in 11s draft?
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

18. Tuesday, 20 January 2009 13:30 – 18:00, Constellation II Room
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Tuesday, 20 January :30 – 18:00, Constellation II Room
Call Meeting to Order
Secretary Selection (this session only)
IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder
Resolution of comments and improvement of the Draft
Recess until 16:00
Recess until 19:30
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Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

19. Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:30 – 21:30, Constellation II Room
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Tuesday, 20 January :30 – 21:30, Constellation II Room
Call Meeting to Order
IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder
Resolution of comments and improvement of the Draft
Recess until 08:00 Wednesday
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Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

20. Wednesday, 21 January 2009 08:00 – 10:00, Constellation II Room
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Wednesday, 21 January :00 – 10:00, Constellation II Room
Call Meeting to Order
IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder
Moved: To adopt the Draft changes in 11-09/112r0 and direct the Editor to incorporate them into the Draft, updating 11-08/493 as indicated in 11-09/113r0.
Yes: No: Abstain:
Security Presentations
Resolution of comments and improvement of the Draft
Recess until 13:30
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

21. Wednesday, 21 January 2009 13:30 – 18:00, Constellation II Room
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Wednesday, 21 January :30 – 18:00, Constellation II Room
Call Meeting to Order
Secretary Selection (this session only)
IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder
Resolution of comments and improvement of the Draft
Recess until 16:00
Recess until Thursday 10:30
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

22. Thursday, 22 January 2008 10:30 – 12:30, Constellation II Room
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Thursday, 22 January :30 – 12:30, Constellation II Room
Call Meeting to Order
IPR and Attendance recording reminder
Resolution of comments and improvement of the Draft
Recess until 13:30
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

23. Thursday, 22 January 2009 13:30 – 15:30, Constellation II Room
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Thursday, 22 January :30 – 15:30, Constellation II Room
Call Meeting to Order
Secretary Selection (this session only)
IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder
Moved, to direct the Editor to produce one or more revisions of the Draft so as to incorporate all changes and comment resolutions adopted before the end of this session.
Discussion and Votes re Process / ad hocs / teleconferences
“TGs Process, January”, Donald Eastlake 3rd, 11-09/TBDr1
Other Technical Presentations
Adjourn sine die
TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

24. [Reference Information]
January 2009
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[Reference Information]
Updated PAR at
Original PAR for IEEE ESS Mesh: 11-04/54r2. Original Five Criteria for IEEE ESS Mesh: 11-04/56r1.
Comment Resolution Spreadsheet:
11-08/493r32: Resolution of Letter Ballot #126 Comments
TGs Technical Editors:
Kazuyuki Sakoda (Sony), Draft 2.03 …
Anthony Maida (3eTI), Drafts 2.01 through D2.02
Avinash Joshi (Motorola), Drafts 1.09 through D2.0
W. Steven Conner (Intel). Drafts 0.01 through D1.08 (also chair of the first Mesh Study Group Session)
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Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

25. [Earlier Meeting Minutes]
January 2009
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[Earlier Meeting Minutes]
Task Group “s” Meeting Minutes
November 2008, Dallas, Texas, 11-08/1431r0
September 2008, Waikoloa, Hawaii, 11-08/1078r0
September 2008, ad hoc Meeting, Līhu‘e, Kaua‘i, Hawai‘i, 11-08/1038r0
July 2008, Denver, Colorado, 11-08/835r0
May 2008, Jacksonville, Florida, 11-08/580r2
May 2008, ad hoc meeting, Santa Clara, California, 11-08/539r0
March 2008, Orlando, Florida, 11-08/424r0
January 2008, Taipei, Taiwan, 11-08/170r2
November 2007, Atlanta, Georgia, 11-07/2826r1
September 2007, Waikoloa, Hawai‘i, 11-07/2495r0
September 2007, ad hoc Meeting, Līhu‘e, Kaua‘i, Hawai‘i, 11-07/2413r0
Recent Teleconference Minutes
September 17, 11-08/1195r0
October 15, 11-08/1230r0
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Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola