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1 doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r8 Submission July 2009 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar SwitchesSlide 1 July 2009 Mesh Meeting Agenda Date: 2009-07-13 Authors: NameAddressAffiliationPhoneEmail Donald Eastlake 3 rd 155 Beaver Street, Milford, MA 01757 USA Stellar Switches +1-508-634-2066 d3e3e3@gmail.com

2 doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r8 Submission July 2009 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar SwitchesSlide 2 IEEE 802.11s: Mesh Networking Task Group TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away. San Francisco, California 13-16 July, 2009 Chair: Donald E. Eastlake 3 rd (Stellar Switches) Temporary Technical Editor: Kazuyuki Sakoda (Sony) Secretary: Stephen Rayment (BelAir Networks)

3 doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r8 Submission July 2009 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar SwitchesSlide 3 Venue Hyatt Regency, San Francisco, California

4 doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r8 Submission July 2009 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar SwitchesSlide 4 General Flow of the TGs Meeting Monday (ad hoc) –Administrivia –Resolution of Comments and Improvement of the Draft Tuesday –Administrivia and Status –TGs Process Presentation –Resolution of Comments and Improvement of the Draft Wednesday –Security Presentations –Resolution of Comments and Improvement of the Draft Thursday –Resolution of Comments and Improvement of the Draft –TGs Process Discussion –Teleconferences/Ad-Hoc Meetings Discussion and Votes

5 doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r8 Submission July 2009 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar SwitchesSlide 5 Monday, 13 July 2009 08:00–11:00 (Pacific Concourse A) Call ad hoc meeting to Order at 08:10 –The chair indicated that they would act as Secretary for this ad hoc meeting. –Miscellaneous Announcements –Manual attendance reminder –Review of IEEE 802 and 802.11 Policies and Procedures on Intellectual Property, Inappropriate Topics, Etc. Ad Hoc Meeting Agenda –approved unanimously Status of TGs Draft 3.02 and Comment Resolutions –“Resolution of comments from Letter Ballot 147”, 11-09/471r10 –11-09/664r0, Kazuyuki Sakoda (presented by chair)

6 doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r8 Submission July 2009 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar SwitchesSlide 6 Monday, 13 July 2009 08:00–11:00 (Pacific Concourse A) Comment Resolution and improvement of the Draft –Discussion of and unanimous support to re-open CIDs 409, 415, 424, 585, 783, 773, and 1172. –Subgroup interest poll: General: 0 MAC: 3 RFI: 2 Security: 5 –The chair suggested dividing into MAC and Security subgroups but objections were raised that some security comment resolutions might depend on security presentations not yet made. There was agreement to split into two subgroups, one of which was MAC. –Poll, should the second subgroup be RFI or Security? RFI: 3 Security: 0

7 doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r8 Submission July 2009 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar SwitchesSlide 7 Monday, 13 July 2009 08:00–11:00 (Pacific Concourse A) –The task group divided into two subgroups as follows: RFI – Guenael Strutt coördinator MAC – Dee Denteneer coördinator The Task group meeting was called back together. Ad hoc meeting adjourned at 10:55

8 doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r8 Submission July 2009 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar SwitchesSlide 8 Tuesday, 14 July 2009 08:00 – 10:00 (Pacific Concourse M) Call Meeting to Order –Selection of Temporary Secretary Dee Denteneer volunteered except for Thursday AM2 –Miscellaneous Announcements –Automated attendance reminder –Review of IEEE 802 and 802.11 Policies and Procedures on Intellectual Property, Inappropriate Topics, Etc. Meeting Agenda –Approved unanimously Approval of Minutes: –Montreal meeting minutes: 11-09/595r0 Approved unanimously

9 doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r8 Submission July 2009 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar SwitchesSlide 9 Automated Attendance Recording Go to http://newton/11/attendance (Documents: http://802server.events.ieee.org/ or 172.16.0.10 or just http://newton)http://newton/11/attendancehttp://802server.events.ieee.org/http://newton –Sign-in –Claim attendance credit for each session. Only “sign-in” and “claim credit” for yourself, do NOT “sign-in” for others. You have to log in every session!

10 doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r8 Submission July 2009 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar SwitchesSlide 10 Miscellaneous Announcements Warning: Do not leave your laptops unattended! –The meeting is not responsible for your unwatched stuff. Wear your badge at all times in the meeting area! Individual membership –In all IEEE standards meetings, membership is by individual, hence you do not represent a company or organization. Photographs and Recordings –No sound recordings are permitted at 802.11 WG or TG meetings. –No photographs allowed without WG Chair permission. Media – Press and Analyst briefings –Only the 802.11/.15/.18/.19/.22 WG Chair and WG Vice-Chairs are allowed to give verbal statements/interviews to the media on behalf of their respective IEEE working group.

11 doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r8 Submission TGs Chair Needed July 2009 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar SwitchesSlide 11

12 doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r8 Submission July 2009 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar SwitchesSlide 12 Important Stuff Note the links from the items in red in the left column of all pages of the Working Group meeting agenda. –Affiliation Frequently Asked Questions: http://standards.ieee.org/faqs/affiliationFAQ.html http://standards.ieee.org/faqs/affiliationFAQ.html –Anti-Trust: http://standards.ieee.org/resources/antitrust-guidelines.pdf http://standards.ieee.org/resources/antitrust-guidelines.pdf –IEEE Ethics: http://www.ieee.org/web/membership/ethics/code_ethics.html http://www.ieee.org/web/membership/ethics/code_ethics.html –Letter of Assurance Form: http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/loa.pdfhttp://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/loa.pdf –IEEE Patent Committee: http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/index.htmlhttp://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/index.html –IEEE Patent Policy: http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt –Patent FAQ: http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/faq.pdfhttp://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/faq.pdf

13 doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r8 Submission July 2009 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar SwitchesSlide 13 Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform All participants in this meeting have certain obligations under the IEEE-SA Patent Policy. Participants: –“Shall inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of each “holder of any potential Essential Patent Claims of which they are personally aware” if the claims are owned or controlled by the participant or the entity the participant is from, employed by, or otherwise represents “Personal awareness” means that the participant “is personally aware that the holder may have a potential Essential Patent Claim,” even if the participant is not personally aware of the specific patents or patent claims –“Should inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of “any other holders of such potential Essential Patent Claims” (that is, third parties that are not affiliated with the participant, with the participant’s employer, or with anyone else that the participant is from or otherwise represents) –The above does not apply if the patent claim is already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance that applies to the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group Quoted text excerpted from IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws subclause 6.2 Early identification of holders of potential Essential Patent Claims is strongly encouraged No duty to perform a patent search

14 doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r8 Submission July 2009 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar SwitchesSlide 14 Patent Related Links All participants should be familiar with their obligations under the IEEE-SA Policies & Procedures for standards development. Patent Policy is stated in these sources: IEEE-SA Standards Boards Bylaws http://standards.ieee.org/guides/bylaws/sect6-7.html#6 IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual http://standards.ieee.org/guides/opman/sect6.html#6.3 Material about the patent policy is available at http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-material.html If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at patcom@ieee.org or visit http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/index.html This slide set is available at http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt

15 doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r8 Submission July 2009 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar SwitchesSlide 15 Call for Potentially Essential Patents If anyone in this meeting is personally aware of the holder of any patent claims that are potentially essential to implementation of the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group and that are not already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance: –Either speak up now or –Provide the chair of this group with the identity of the holder(s) of any and all such claims as soon as possible or –Cause an LOA to be submitted

16 doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r8 Submission July 2009 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar SwitchesSlide 16 Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws. –Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims. –Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions. Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches may be discussed in standards development meetings. –Technical considerations remain primary focus –Don’t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets. –Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation. –Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed … do formally object. --------------------------------------------------------------- See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause 5.3.10 and “Promoting Competition and Innovation: What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy” for more details.

17 doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r8 Submission July 2009 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar SwitchesSlide 17 Tuesday, 14 July 2009 08:00 – 10:00 (Pacific Concourse M) Approval of Minutes (continued) –Teleconference minutes: May 27, 11-09/665r0, June 24, 11-09/701r0, July 8, 11-09/737r0 Approved unanimously –Monday morning ad hoc minutes: 11-09/800r0 Approved unanimously Status of TGs Draft 3.02 and Comment Resolutions –“Resolution of comments from Letter Ballot 147”, 11-09/471r10 –11-09/664r0, Kazuyuki Sakoda (presented by the Chair) Discussion and Votes re Process / ad hocs / teleconferences – “TGs Process, July”, 11-09/811r0

18 doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r8 Submission July 2009 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar SwitchesSlide 18 Tuesday, 14 July 2009 08:00 – 10:00 (Pacific Concourse M) Moved, That the IEEE 802.11 Working Group requests that IEEE make 802.11s Draft D3.02 available for public purchase. –Mover: Javier Cardona Seconder: Guido Hiertz –Yes: 8 No: 3 Abstain: 3 (Passes, Procedural) “MCF Issues”, Liwen Chu (STMicroelectronics), 11- 09/0562r2 “TGs LB 147 Submission for Resolutions of Comments Related to HWMP PERR Element”, Harish Ramamurthy (Marvell), 11-09/791r0

19 doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r8 Submission July 2009 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar SwitchesSlide 19 Tuesday, 14 July 2009 08:00 – 10:00 (Pacific Concourse M) “Resolutions of the Remaining Power Management Comments”, Jarkko Kneckt (Nokia), 11-09/742r0 –It was suggested to have a straw poll between options 1 and 2 on slide 12 but, after discussion, it was clear that there were several people in favor of option 2 and no one was in favor of option 1. –(There was insufficient time to complete the above presentation and it was agreed to continue it at the PM1 session.) Recess until 13:30

20 doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r8 Submission July 2009 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar SwitchesSlide 20 Tuesday, 14 July 2009 13:30 – 15:30 (Pacific Concourse M) Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder (continued) “Resolutions of the Remaining Power Management Comments”, Jarkko Kneckt (Nokia), 11- 09/742r0 Security Presentations –“TGs Authenticated Encryption Function”, John Petro (Envieta), 11-09/770r0 Straw Poll: Should TGs stick with SIV or investigate replacing it with CCM? SIV: 10 CCM: 10 Abstain: 6

21 doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r8 Submission July 2009 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar SwitchesSlide 21 Tuesday, 14 July 2009 13:30 – 15:30 (Pacific Concourse M) Security Presentations (continued) “Resolving SAE Comments”, Dan Harkins (Aruba), 11-09/754r0 Comment Resolution and improvement of the Draft –Moved, to adopt the comment comment resolutions in submission 11-09/829r0 with Column X equal to “TGs-0713” or “MAC- 7/12/2009” except CID 180. Mover: Dee Denteneer Seconder: Liwen Chu Yes: 8 No: 0 Abstain: 9 (passes > ¾) “Update Mesh Peering Protocols”, Meiyuan Zhao (Intel), 11-09/813r1 Recess until 19:30

22 doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r8 Submission July 2009 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar SwitchesSlide 22 Tuesday, 14 July 2009 19:30 – 21:30 (Pacific Concourse M) Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder The Chair announced that the motion passed during the AM1 session today to ask IEEE to make 802.11s D3.02 available for sale was invalid. Only specific draft that actually got 75% approval can be sold. For 802.11s, that would be D3.0.

23 doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r8 Submission July 2009 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar SwitchesSlide 23 Tuesday, 14 July 2009 19:30 – 21:30 (Pacific Concourse M) Moved, To adopt the comment resolutions in 11- 09/742r0, excluding CID 343, with “11-09/672r2” replaced by “11-09/617r2”. –Mover: Dee Denteneer Seconder: Guido Hiertz –Yes: 6 No: 0 Abstain: 3 (passes > ¾) “Mesh Compatible MLME.join & start”, Jarkko Kneckt, 11-09/820r1 Dee Denteneer announced that he had uploaded 11- 09/837r1 and requests feedback.

24 doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r8 Submission July 2009 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar SwitchesSlide 24 Tuesday, 14 July 2009 19:30 – 21:30 (Pacific Concourse M) Subgroup interest straw poll: –Security: 3 RFI: 1 MAC: 4 General: 0 Divide into subgroups: –MAC coordinated by Guido Hiertz –Security coordinated by Meiyuan Zhao TGs was called back together. Recess until 13:30 Wednesday

25 doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r8 Submission Pending Presentations “TGs LB 147 Submission for Resolutions of Comments Related to HWMP PERR Element”, Harish Ramamurthy (Marvell), 11- 09/791r2 July 2009 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar SwitchesSlide 25

26 doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r8 Submission July 2009 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar SwitchesSlide 26 Wednesday, 15 July 2009 13:30 – 15:30 (Pacific Concourse H) Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Comment Resolution and improvement of the Draft Recess until 16:00

27 doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r8 Submission July 2009 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar SwitchesSlide 27 Wednesday, 15 July 2009 16:00 – 18:00 (Pacific Concourse H) Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Comment Resolution and improvement of the Draft Recess until 10:30 Thursday

28 doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r8 Submission July 2009 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar SwitchesSlide 28 Thursday, 16 July 2008 10:30 – 12:30 (Pacific Concourse I) Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Comment Resolution and improvement of the Draft Recess until 16:00

29 doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r8 Submission July 2009 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar SwitchesSlide 29 Thursday, 16 July 2009 16:00 – 18:00 (Pacific Concourse I) Call Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Discussion and Votes re Process / ad hocs / teleconferences – “TGs Process, July”, 11-09/811r1 Motion: To direct the Editor to produce one or more revisions of the Draft so as to incorporate all changes and comment resolutions adopted before the end of this session. Adjourn sine die TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away.

30 doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r8 Submission July 2009 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar SwitchesSlide 30 [Reference Information] Updated PAR at http://standards.ieee.org/board/nes/projects/802-11s.pdf. http://standards.ieee.org/board/nes/projects/802-11s.pdf –Original PAR for IEEE 802.11 ESS Mesh: 11-04/54r2. Original Five Criteria for IEEE 802.11 ESS Mesh: 11-04/56r1. Comment Resolution Spreadsheet: –11-09/471r10: Resolution of Letter Ballot #147 Comments TGs Technical Editors: –Kazuyuki Sakoda (Sony), Draft 2.03…D3.0… –Anthony Maida (3eTI), Drafts 2.01 and D2.02 –Avinash Joshi (Motorola), Drafts 1.09 through D2.0 –W. Steven Conner (Intel). Drafts 0.01 through D1.08 (also chair of the first Mesh Study Group Session)

31 doc.: IEEE P802.11-09/661r8 Submission July 2009 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Stellar SwitchesSlide 31 [Earlier Meeting Minutes] Task Group “s” Meeting Minutes –May 2009, Montreal, Quebec, 11-09/595r0 –March 2009, Vancouver, British Columbia, 11-09/312r0 –January 2009, Los Angeles, California, 11-09/110r0 –November 2008, Dallas, Texas, 11-08/1431r0 –September 2008, Waikoloa, Hawaii, 11-08/1078r0 September 2008, ad hoc Meeting, Līhu‘e, Kaua‘i, Hawai‘i, 11-08/1038r0 –July 2008, Denver, Colorado, 11-08/835r0 –May 2008, Jacksonville, Florida, 11-08/580r2 May 2008, ad hoc Meeting, Santa Clara, California, 11-08/539r0 –March 2008, Orlando, Florida, 11-08/424r0 –January 2008, Taipei, Taiwan, 11-08/170r2 –November 2007, Atlanta, Georgia, 11-07/2826r1 Recent Teleconference Minutes May 6, 11-09/521r0


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