1. March 2008 Mesh Meeting Agenda
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March 2008 Mesh Meeting Agenda
Date:
Authors:
Name
Address
Affiliations
Phone
Donald Eastlake 3rd
111 Locke Drive, Marlborough, MA USA
Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

2. IEEE 802.11s: Mesh Networking Task Group
March 2008
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IEEE s: Mesh Networking Task Group
TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away.
Orlando, Florida
17-20 March, 2008
Chair: Donald E. Eastlake 3rd., Motorola
Temporary Technical Editor: Avinash Joshi, Motorola
Temporary Secretary: Dee Denteneer, Philips
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

3. doc.: IEEE P802.11-08/210r6 Caribe Royale Suites, Orlando, Florida
March 2008
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March 2008
Venue
Caribe Royale Suites, Orlando, Florida
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

4. General Flow of the TGs Meeting
March 2008
General Flow of the TGs Meeting
Monday Morning Ad Hoc Meeting
Administrivia and Status
TGs Process Presentation
Improvement of the Draft
Tuesday
Security Presentations
Wednesday
Thursday
TGs Process Discussion
Teleconferences/Ad-Hoc Meetings Discussion and Votes
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5. Monday, 17 March 2008 9:30-11:00 (Grand Sierra I Room)
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Monday, 17 March :30-11:00 (Grand Sierra I Room)
Call ad hoc meeting to Order
Dee Denteener appointed as Temporary Recording Secretary
Miscellaneous Announcements
Review of IEEE 802 and Policies and Procedures on Intellectual Property, Inappropriate Topics, Etc.
Ad hoc meeting Agenda approved
Status of TGs Draft and Letter Ballot
Draft D1.09
“Resolution of comments received during IEEE Letter Ballot 93”, 11-07/23r55
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

6. Monday, 17 March 2008 9:30-11:00 (Grand Sierra I Room)
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Monday, 17 March :30-11:00 (Grand Sierra I Room)
Presentation and Discussion on Process
“TGs Process, March”, Donald Eastlake 3rd, 11-08/320r1
“Enhancements to Mesh Discovery”, Michelle Gong (Intel), 11-08/TBDr0
“Odd Mesh Header”, Javier Cardona (cozybit Inc.), 11-08/341r0
Straw Poll: Should the mesh header by evenly aligned?
No: *N (16-bit): *N (32-bit): Don’t care: 1
Adjourn ad hoc meeting.
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

7. Tuesday, 18 March 2008 8:00-10:00 (Grand Sierra I Room)
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Tuesday, 18 March :00-10:00 (Grand Sierra I Room)
Call meeting to Order
Dee Denteneer appointed Recording Secretary
Miscellaneous Announcements
Review of IEEE 802 and Policies and Procedures on Intellectual Property, Inappropriate Topics, Etc.
Agenda approved by unanimous consent
Minutes approved by unanimous consent:
January 2008 Taipei Meeting Minutes, 11-08/170r2
Monday ad hoc meeting Minutes, 11-08/347r0
Status of TGs Draft and Letter Ballot
802.11s Draft D1.09
“Resolution of comments received during IEEE Letter Ballot 93”, 11-07/23r55
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

8. March 2008
Important Stuff
Note the links from the items in red in the left column of all pages of the Working Group meeting agenda.
Affiliation Frequently Asked Questions:
Anti-Trust:
IEEE Ethics:
Letter of Assurance Form:
IEEE Patent Committee:
IEEE Patent Policy:
Patent FAQ:
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9. Miscellaneous Announcements
March 2008
Miscellaneous Announcements
Warning: Do not leave your laptops unattended!
The meeting is not responsible for your unwatched stuff.
Wear your badge at all times in the meeting area!
Individual membership
In all IEEE standards meetings, membership is by individual, hence you do not represent a company or organization.
Photographs and Recordings
No sound recordings are permitted at WG or TG meetings.
No photographs allowed without WG Chair permission.
Media – Press and Analyst briefings
Only the /.15/.18/.19/.22 WG Chair and WG Vice-Chairs are allowed to give verbal statements/interviews to the media on behalf of their respective IEEE working groups
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10. March 2008
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Affiliation
It is defined in the IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws, as: “An individual is deemed “affiliated” with any individual or entity that has been, or will be, financially or materially supporting that individual’s participation in a particular IEEE standards activity. This includes, but is not limited to, his or her employer and any individual or entity that has or will have, either directly or indirectly, requested, paid for, or otherwise sponsored his or her participation.
Revision: Feb 2006 Standards Board Bylaw
Openness is defined as the quality of being not restricted to a particular type or category of participants. All meetings involving standards development an all IEEE Sponsor ballots shall be open to all interested parties. Each individual participant in IEEE Standards activities shall disclose his or her affiliations when requested. A person who knows or reasonably should know, that a participant’s disclosure is materially incomplete or incorrect should report that fact to the Secretary of the IEEE-SA Standards Board and the appropriate Sponsors.
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

11. Tuesday, 18 March 2008 8:00-10:00 (Grand Sierra I Room)
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Tuesday, 18 March :00-10:00 (Grand Sierra I Room)
PAR Extension
Moved, to approve and forward the following motion to the Working Group:
Moved, to request 802 Executive Committee to approve a request to extend the P802.11s PAR, which currently expires , for 2 years for the following reason:
“Mesh is a complex enhancement to s has made enormous progress and its Draft has been subject to a Working Group Letter Ballot. Although this LB failed, all comments submitted have been resolved resulting in major improvements in the Draft and a new Letter Ballot has been approved. We estimate that completing Letter Ballot, Sponsor Ballot, and higher level approvals will take until late 2009 or possibly early 2010.”
Moved: Dee Denteneer Seconded: Guido Hiertz
Yes: No: 0 Abstain: 4 (passes)
Presentation and Discussion on Process
“TGs Process, March”, Donald Eastlake 3rd, 11-08/320r1
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

12. Tuesday, 18 March 2008 8:00-10:00 (Grand Sierra I Room)
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Tuesday, 18 March :00-10:00 (Grand Sierra I Room)
“Enhancements to Mesh Discovery”, Michelle Gong (Intel), 11-08/357r1
“Odd Mesh Header”, Javier Cardona (cozybit Inc.), 11-08/341r3
Straw Poll: Mesh Header size for alignment?
4*N (32-bit): *N (16-bit): 5 Leave as is (8-bit): 6 Don’t care: 5
“Avoiding Interactions with Lazy WDS Equipment”, Javier Cardona (cozybit Inc.), 11-08/278r5
Straw Poll: Would you support the proposed modifications to mesh broadcast frames as presented in 11-08/278r5?
Yes: No: 2 Don’t know/care: 16
“Password Authentication for Mesh Points”, Dan Harkins (Aruba), 11-08/45r3 (ppt), 11-08/299r0 (doc)
Recess until 13:30
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

13. Tuesday, 18 March 2008 13:30-15:30 (Grand Sierra I Room)
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Tuesday, 18 March :30-15:30 (Grand Sierra I Room)
IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder
“Medium access in wireless mesh”, Mathile Benveniste (Avaya), 11-08/292r0
Recess until 16:00
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

14. Automated Attendance Recording
March 2008
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Automated Attendance Recording
Go to (Documents: or or just
Sign-in
Claim attendance credit for each session.
Only “sign-in” and “claim credit” for yourself, do NOT “sign-in” for others.
You have to log in every session!
Do NOT use 802wirelessworld for anything!
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

15. Pending Presentations
March 2008
Pending Presentations
Power save for wireless mesh, Mathilde Benvensite (Avaya)
“Normative Text for Proxy Frame Format”, Yongho Seok (LGE), 11-08/306r0
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16. Tuesday, 18 March 2008 16:00-18:00 (Grand Sierra I Room)
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Tuesday, 18 March :00-18:00 (Grand Sierra I Room)
IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder
Moved, to direct the editor to incorporate the text from: s-password-authentication-for-mesh-points.doc into the 11s draft.
Moved: Dan Harkins Seconded:
Yes: No: Abstain:
Security Presentations
Improvement of the Draft
Recess until 13:30 Wednesday
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

17. Pending Security Presentations
March 2008
Pending Security Presentations
“Authentication and Key Management of MP with multiple radios”, Amy Zhang (Huawei), 11-08/317r1
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18. Wednesday, 19 March 2008 13:30-15:30 (Grand Sierra I Room)
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Wednesday, 19 March :30-15:30 (Grand Sierra I Room)
IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder
Improvement of the Draft
Recess until 13:30 Thursday
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

19. Thursday, 20 March 2008 13:30-15:30 (Grand Sierra I Room)
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Thursday, 20 March :30-15:30 (Grand Sierra I Room)
IPR and Attendance recording reminder
Improvement of the Draft
Discussion and Votes re Process
“TGs Process, March”, Donald Eastlake 3rd, 11-08/320r2
Moved, to approve and forward the following motion to the Working Group: “Moved, to renumber the current s draft as D2.0 and authorize a 30-Day Letter Ballot asking the question ‘Should Draft D2.0 be sent to Sponsor Ballot?’.”
Moved: Seconded:
Yes: No: Abstain:
Moved, to schedule an ad hoc meeting May 7-9, location TBD, to resolve comments from the second s Letter Ballot.
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

20. Thursday, 20 March 2008 13:30-15:30 (Grand Sierra I Room)
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Thursday, 20 March :30-15:30 (Grand Sierra I Room)
Moved, to authorize bi-weekly teleconferences from April 16th through July 23rd, Wednesdays, except during face-to-face meetings, at TBDam/pm.
Moved: Seconded:
Other Technical Presentations
Adjourn sine die
TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away.
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

21. [Reference Information]
March 2008
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[Reference Information]
Updated PAR at
Original PAR for IEEE ESS Mesh: 11-04/54r2. Original Five Criteria for IEEE ESS Mesh: 11-04/56r1.
Comment Resolution Spreadsheet for Current Draft D1.08:
11-07/23r55: Resolution of comments received during IEEE Letter Ballot 93
Confirmed Proposal on which Draft D0.01 was based:
11-06/328r0: Joint SEE-Mesh/Wi-Mesh Proposal to TGs
11-06/329r3: Joint SEE-Mesh/Wi-Mesh Proposal to TGs Overview
TGs Technical Editor through Draft D1.08:
W. Steven Conner, Intel
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

22. [Earlier Meeting Minutes]
March 2008
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[Earlier Meeting Minutes]
Task Group “s” Meeting Minutes
January 2008, Taipei, Taiwan, 11-08/170r2
November 2007, Atlanta, Georgia, 11-07/2826r1
September 2007, Waikoloa, Hawai‘i, 11-07/2495r0
September 2007, ad hoc Meeting, Līhu‘e, Kaua‘i, Hawai‘i, 11-07/2413r0
July 2007, San Francisco, California, 11-07/2277r0
June 2007, ad hoc Meeting, Hillsboro, Oregon, 11-07/2009r0
May 2007, Montreal, Quebec, 11-07/746r0
April 2007 ad hoc Meeting, Eindhoven, Netherlands, 11-07/559r1
March 2007, Orlando, Florida, 11-07/413r0
February 2007 ad hoc Meeting, Hillsboro, Oregon, 11-07/240r0
January 2007, London, England, 11-07/92r0
Recent Teleconference Minutes
21 November 2007, 11-07/2934r0
9 January 2008, 11-08/41r0
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola