1. May 2008 Mesh Meeting Agenda
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May 2008
May 2008 Mesh Meeting Agenda
Date:
Authors:
Name
Address
Affiliations
Phone
Donald Eastlake 3rd
111 Locke Drive, Marlborough, MA USA
Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

2. IEEE 802.11s: Mesh Networking Task Group
May 2008
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IEEE s: Mesh Networking Task Group
TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away.
Jacksonville, Florida
12-15 May, 2008
Chair: Donald E. Eastlake 3rd., Motorola
Temporary Technical Editor: Avinash Joshi, Motorola
Secretary: Stephen Rayment, BelAir Networks
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

3. doc.: IEEE P802.11-08/462r5 The Hyatt Regency Jacksonville Riverfront
May 2008
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Venue
The Hyatt Regency Jacksonville Riverfront
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

4. General Flow of the TGs Meeting
May 2008
General Flow of the TGs Meeting
Monday
Administrivia and Status
TGs Process Presentation
Resolution of Comments
Tuesday
Wednesday
Security Presentations
Thursday
TGs Process Discussion
Teleconferences/Ad-Hoc Meetings Discussion and Votes
Other Technical Presentations
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5. Monday, 12 May 2008 10:30 – 12:30, Grand 8 Room
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Monday, 12 May :30 – 12:30, Grand 8 Room
Call meeting to Order
Miscellaneous Announcements
Selection of Temporary Secretary
Review of IEEE 802 and Policies and Procedures on Intellectual Property, Inappropriate Topics, Etc.
Approval of Agenda
Approval of Minutes:
March 2008 Meeting Minutes, 11-08/424r0
May 2008 Santa Clara ad hoc Meeting Minutes, 11-08/539r0
Teleconference Minutes:
16, 30 April 2008, 11-08/463r1, 11-08/494r0
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

6. Miscellaneous Announcements
May 2008
Miscellaneous Announcements
Warning: Do not leave your laptops unattended!
The meeting is not responsible for your unwatched stuff.
Wear your badge at all times in the meeting area!
Individual membership
In all IEEE standards meetings, membership is by individual, hence you do not represent a company or organization.
Photographs and Recordings
No sound recordings are permitted at WG or TG meetings.
No photographs allowed without WG Chair permission.
Media – Press and Analyst briefings
Only the /.15/.18/.19/.22 WG Chair and WG Vice-Chairs are allowed to give verbal statements/interviews to the media on behalf of their respective IEEE working groups
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

7. May 2008
Important Stuff
Note the links from the items in red in the left column of all pages of the Working Group meeting agenda.
Affiliation Frequently Asked Questions:
Anti-Trust:
IEEE Ethics:
Letter of Assurance Form:
IEEE Patent Committee:
IEEE Patent Policy:
Patent FAQ:
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8. Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform
May 2008
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Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform
All participants in this meeting have certain obligations under the IEEE-SA Patent Policy. Participants:
“Shall inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of each “holder of any potential Essential Patent Claims of which they are personally aware” if the claims are owned or controlled by the participant or the entity the participant is from, employed by, or otherwise represents
“Personal awareness” means that the participant “is personally aware that the holder may have a potential Essential Patent Claim,” even if the participant is not personally aware of the specific patents or patent claims
“Should inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of “any other holders of such potential Essential Patent Claims” (that is, third parties that are not affiliated with the participant, with the participant’s employer, or with anyone else that the participant is from or otherwise represents)
The above does not apply if the patent claim is already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance that applies to the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group
Quoted text excerpted from IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws subclause 6.2
Early identification of holders of potential Essential Patent Claims is strongly encouraged
No duty to perform a patent search
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

9. Patent Related Links
May 2008
All participants should be familiar with their obligations under the IEEE-SA Policies & Procedures for standards development.
Patent Policy is stated in these sources:
IEEE-SA Standards Boards Bylaws
IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual
Material about the patent policy is available at
If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at or visit
This slide set is available at
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10. Call for Potentially Essential Patents
May 2008
Call for Potentially Essential Patents
If anyone in this meeting is personally aware of the holder of any patent claims that are potentially essential to implementation of the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group and that are not already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance:
Either speak up now or
Provide the chair of this group with the identity of the holder(s) of any and all such claims as soon as possible or
Cause an LOA to be submitted
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

11. Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings
May 2008
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Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings
All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws.
Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims.
Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions.
Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches may be discussed in standards development meetings.
Technical considerations remain primary focus
Don’t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets.
Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation.
Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed … do formally object.
See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause and “Promoting Competition and Innovation: What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy” for more details.
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

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Affiliation
It is defined in the IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws, as: “An individual is deemed “affiliated” with any individual or entity that has been, or will be, financially or materially supporting that individual’s participation in a particular IEEE standards activity. This includes, but is not limited to, his or her employer and any individual or entity that has or will have, either directly or indirectly, requested, paid for, or otherwise sponsored his or her participation.
Revision: Feb 2006 Standards Board Bylaw
Openness is defined as the quality of being not restricted to a particular type or category of participants. All meetings involving standards development an all IEEE Sponsor ballots shall be open to all interested parties. Each individual participant in IEEE Standards activities shall disclose his or her affiliations when requested. A person who knows or reasonably should know, that a participant’s disclosure is materially incomplete or incorrect should report that fact to the Secretary of the IEEE-SA Standards Board and the appropriate Sponsors.
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

13. Automated Attendance Recording
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Automated Attendance Recording
Go to (Documents: or or just
Sign-in
Claim attendance credit for each session.
Only “sign-in” and “claim credit” for yourself, do NOT “sign-in” for others.
You have to log in every session!
Do NOT use 802wirelessworld for anything!
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

14. 802.11 P&P – TG Elections (11-07-0360r4)
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P&P – TG Elections ( r4)
3.2 Task Group Chair
The TG Chair shall be appointed by the WG Chair and confirmed by a WG majority approval. The TG Chair is re-affirmed every 2 years: one session after the WG Chair is elected.
The TG Chair is required to confirm that the function of secretary is performed for each TG meeting. TG meetings are not allowed to function without a secretary.
3.3 Task Group Vice-Chair
TG Vice-Chair is elected by a WG majority approval.  The TG Vice-Chair is reaffirmed every 2 years; one session after the WG Chair is elected.
3.4 Task Group Secretary
The TG Secretary shall be appointed by the TG Chair and confirmed by a TG motion that is approved with a minimum 50% majority. The TG Secretary is re-affirmed every 2 years; one session after the WG Chair is elected.
The minutes of meetings taken by the Secretary (or designee) are to be provided to the TG Chair in time to be available to the WG Chair for publication one week after close of the session.
The minutes of the meeting are to include documents produced by the voting process and document list. See IEEE® Standards Companion for details on content and form of minutes.
3.5 Task Group Technical Editor
The TG Technical Editor shall be appointed by the TG Chair and confirmed by a TG majority approval.
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

15. Monday, 12 May 2008 10:30 – 12:30, Grand 8 Room
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Monday, 12 May :30 – 12:30, Grand 8 Room
Existing Task Group Officers
Chair: Donald Eastlake 3rd (Motorola)
Editor: Vacant
Avinash Joshi (Motorola) filling in on a temporary basis
Secretary: Stephen Rayment (BelAir Networks)
Task Group Officer nominations
Recommendation of Task Group Chair to WG:
Donald Eastlake 3rd (Motorola) …
Election of Task Group Technical Editor:
Anthony Maida (EFJ Inc.)
Election of Task Group Secretary:
Stephen Rayment (Belair Networks)
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

16. Monday, 12 May 2008 10:30 – 12:30, Grand 8 Room
Moved, to re-affirm or elect the following Officers and to adopt the recommendation below for TGs chair:
Secretary, re-affirm: Stephen Rayment (BelAir Networks)
Technical Editor, elect: Anthony Maida (3ETI)
TGs Chair, Recommendation to WG: Donald Eastlake 3rd (Motorola)
Moved: Jan Kruys
Second: Mathilde Benveniste
Vote:
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17. Monday, 12 May 2008 10:30 – 12:30, Grand 8 Room
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Monday, 12 May :30 – 12:30, Grand 8 Room
Status of TGs Draft and Letter Ballot
Draft D2.0
“Resolution of comments from Letter Ballot 126”, 11-08/493r7
The substance of comments 374 and 763 are not to be discussed.
Presentation and Discussion on Process
“TGs Process, May”, Donald Eastlake 3rd, 11-08/570r0
Moved, That TGs will use TGs Draft D2.0 as a baseline and consider for resolution the comments submitted in LB#126. Moved: Guenael Strutt Seconded: Jesse Walker Yes: 20 No: 0 Abstain: 0 (passes)
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

18. Monday, 12 May 2008 10:30 – 12:30, Grand 8 Room
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Monday, 12 May :30 – 12:30, Grand 8 Room
Resolution of Comments
Straw Poll on areas of interest:
MAC: 5 RFI: 4 Security: 8 General: 3
Divide into subgroups:
Security, Jesse Walker coordinator
RFI, Guenael Strutt coordinator
MAC, Michelle Gong coordinator
Recombine and Recess Until 13:30
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Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

19. Monday, 12 May 2008 13:30-15:30, Grand 8 Room
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Monday, 12 May :30-15:30, Grand 8 Room
Call meeting to Order
IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder
Presentations:
“Presence Information in Large Mesh Networks”, Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos (MIT), 11-08/561r0
Resolve Comments
Recess until 19:30
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

20. Pending Presentations
May 2008
Pending Presentations
“MDA Enhancements”, Jarkko Knecht (Nokia), 11-08/577r0
PS, 11-08/578
MAC, Mathilde Benveniste
PS, Mathilde Benveniste
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21. Monday, 12 May 2008 19:30-21:30, Grand 8 Room
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Monday, 12 May :30-21:30, Grand 8 Room
Call meeting to Order
IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder
Resolve Comments
Recess until 10:30 Tuesday
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Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

22. Tuesday, 13 May 2008 10:30 – 18:00, Grand 8 Room
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Tuesday, 13 May :30 – 18:00, Grand 8 Room
Call Meeting to Order
IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder
Resolve Comments
Recess until 13:30
Recess until 16:00
Recess until 19:30
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

23. Tuesday, 13 May 2008 19:30 – 21:30, Grand 8 Room
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May 2008
Tuesday, 13 May :30 – 21:30, Grand 8 Room
Call Meeting to Order
IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder
Resolve Comments
Recess until 13:30 Wednesday
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

24. Wednesday, 14 May 2008 13:30 – 18:00, Grand 8 Room
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Wednesday, 14 May :30 – 18:00, Grand 8 Room
IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder
Security Presentations
11-08/501, 11-08/502
Resolve Comments
Recess until 16:00
Recess until 08:00 Thursday
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

25. Thursday, 15 May 2008 08:00 – 15:30, Grand 8 Room
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Thursday, 15 May :00 – 15:30, Grand 8 Room
IPR and Attendance recording reminder
Resolve Comments
Recess until 10:30
Recess until 13:30
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

26. Thursday, 15 May 2008 08:00 – 15:30, Grand 8 Room
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Thursday, 15 May :00 – 15:30, Grand 8 Room
Discussion and Votes re Process / ad hocs / teleconferences
“TGs Process, May”, Donald Eastlake 3rd, 11-08/570r1
Moved, to direct the Editor to produce one or more revisions of the Draft so as to incorporate all changes and comment resolutions adopted before the end of this session.
Mover: Seconder:
Yes: No: Abstain:
Other Technical Presentations
Adjourn sine die
TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

27. [Reference Information]
May 2008
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[Reference Information]
Updated PAR at
Original PAR for IEEE ESS Mesh: 11-04/54r2. Original Five Criteria for IEEE ESS Mesh: 11-04/56r1.
Comment Resolution Spreadsheets:
11-08/493r7: Resolution of Letter Ballot 126 Comments (D2.0)
11-07/23r55: Resolution of comments received during IEEE Letter Ballot 93 (D1.0)
TGs Technical Editors
Anthony Maida (RJF Inc.), Drafts
Avinash Joshi (Motorola), Drafts 1.09 through D2.0
W. Steven Conner (Intel). Drafts 0.01 through D1.08 (also chair of the first Mesh Study Group Session)
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

28. [Earlier Meeting Minutes]
May 2008
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[Earlier Meeting Minutes]
Task Group “s” Meeting Minutes
March 2008, Orlando, Florida, 11-08/424r0
January 2008, Taipei, Taiwan, 11-08/170r2
November 2007, Atlanta, Georgia, 11-07/2826r1
September 2007, Waikoloa, Hawai‘i, 11-07/2495r0
September 2007, ad hoc Meeting, Līhu‘e, Kaua‘i, Hawai‘i, 11-07/2413r0
July 2007, San Francisco, California, 11-07/2277r0
June 2007, ad hoc Meeting, Hillsboro, Oregon, 11-07/2009r0
May 2007, Montreal, Quebec, 11-07/746r0
April 2007 ad hoc Meeting, Eindhoven, Netherlands, 11-07/559r1
March 2007, Orlando, Florida, 11-07/413r0
February 2007 ad hoc Meeting, Hillsboro, Oregon, 11-07/240r0
Recent Teleconference Minutes
21 November 2007, 11-07/2934r0
9 January 2008, 11-08/41r0
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Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola