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The New AA-T & AS-T Degrees: What Do Counselors Need To Know?
This is the FINAL version as of Aug 7, 2012 This PPT is intended for counselors to use as they give workshops to counselors and other faculty and staff at their colleges. You may want to use Handouts to accompany powerpoint: -Powerpoint slides -Glossary Reciprocity statement Note: Anyone presenting this powerpoint should have internet access Information for counselors & other transfer personnel
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It all began. . .with SB 1440 AKA: “STAR Act”: Student Transfer Achievement Reform CEC § (“Ed Code”) Goal: increase CCC transfers with associate degrees Increase number of associate degrees awarded Reduce units/cost before & after transfer Smoother path to transfer to a CSU A guarantee at CSU egrees
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Ed code § says: All CCCs must offer associate degrees for transfer (to CSU) Degrees include 60 sem./90 qtr. CSU-transferable units Completion of IGETC or CSU GE-Breadth Minimum 18 sem./27 qtr. units in major No additional local requirements allowed
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Who’s been involved with implementing SB 1440?
Academic Senates (CCC and CSU) CSU and CCC Chancellor’s Offices C-ID Curriculum chairs Articulation officers Transfer Center Directors Discipline faculty Counselors Administrators
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What could have happened. . .
A concerted, statewide, intersegmental Transfer Model Curriculum (TMC) 112 colleges develop unique degrees in each major. . . OR SB 1440 didn’t say that we needed a statewide implementation strategy. It was the CCC and CSU faculty (senates) that decided a statewide system (TMC) was the best way to implement SB 1440.
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How Transfer Model Curricula (TMCs) are developed
Faculty discipline groups: identify common lower division major preparation (TMC) define content for courses (C-ID course descriptors) Discipline groups are intersegmental (CSU and CCC) some UC involvement, too Draft TMCs are vetted statewide ( & faculty determined. Drafts of Course descriptors (C-ID) vetted statewide CCCs develop TMC- aligned degrees (AA-T/AS-T) and submit them to the CCCCO for approval.
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“Similar” Each CSU determines if the TMC is similar
“Similar” means a transfer student arrives with the TMC coursework and lower-division GE ,and the CSU campus can deliver the baccalaureate degree in 60 units. ( ) Some options/ concentrations within majors may not be considered similar. Upper-division GE must be part of the 60 units. Any missing lower-division major preparation or American Institutions requirements may be included in the CSU 60 units
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Mapping of CSU “Similar” Majors
Many TMCs already found to be similar Departments at each CSU determine “similarity” of each TMC to degree options Some “similar” majors are limited to specific major concentrations or options. Official repository for “similar” majors: Please stress that the list of similar majors can change and the website should be checked frequently. Screen has a hyperlink to sb1440.org . Show the group the “similar” list. Under “counseling” find the bullet about CSU similar majors.
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TMCs Available for CCC to Develop Aligned AA-T/AS-T Degrees
Administration of Justice Art History Business Administration Communication Studies Early Childhood Education Elementary Education English Geology Geography History Journalism Kinesiology Mathematics Music Psychology Physics Political Science Sociology Studio Arts Theater And: MORE are coming! NOTE---Coming very soon: Anthropology, computer science, philosophy, Spanish
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Approved AA-T/AS-T degrees at ___x___ College (insert your college)
Insert AA-T in ____ Insert AS-T in _____ Etc. Each campus does their own slide. Another slide should be developed to show approved AA-T/AS-T degrees at your college. Please feel free to add picture of your own college This slide needs to be updated as curriculum changes at your college
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Currently in the curriculum approval process at our college
Insert . Each campus fills in their own slide and picture This slide needs to be updated as curriculum changes.
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What is C-ID? C-ID = Course Identification Numbering System
Administered by the Academic Senate for CCC Facilitates the identification of comparable courses (“common course numbering”) & increases articulation across all systems of higher education Provides the infrastructure for TMCs & course substitution. Replaces the old “CAN” system. We articulate to course descriptors, not course to course ( a different way to articulate). AOs send all your courses in new degrees to C-ID.org When a college has a C-ID approved course, then they have agreed to accept all others with the same C-ID number. Go to C-ID website. Hyperlink is in the subject line. C-ID definition/explanation: The Course Identification Numbering System (C-ID) is administered by the Academic Senate for California Community Colleges. It is a system to facilitate the identification of comparable courses and increase articulation across all segments of higher education in the state. C-ID addresses the need for a “common course numbering system” to simplify student movement both within the California community colleges and intersegmentally. With the passage of SB 1440, the C-ID system provides the infrastructure TMC. It replaces the CAN system. “Articulate to course descriptors, not course to course” – different way to articulate. If your college has a C-ID approved course, then we have agreed to accept all others with the same C-ID. On C-ID website: What’s New section, tabs up top – especially TMC tab. NOTE for course substitution, you may need to look at original TMCs on C-ID website. See Handout on course substitution.
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Overview of AA-T /AS-T Degrees
Streamline student transition from CCC to CSU Earn AA-T or AS-T for completion of CSU GE-Breadth or IGETC and 18 units in major in the TMC-aligned degree No other local CCC graduation requirements. Enhanced CSU admission opportunities Guaranteed priority admission with junior status to a CSU campus with “similar” major After transfer to CSU, guaranteed degree completion within 60 semester units at the CSU Lower cost to students and taxpayers Access to out of area CSUs GPA bump for impacted majors and/or campuses (Note: student may need to be more competitive) Refer to later slides for more detail
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What’s required? New degrees are called Associate in Arts or Science in <major> for Transfer: AA-T or AS-T Degrees include 60 sem./90 qtr. CSU-transferable units Completion of IGETC or CSU GE-Breadth Minimum 18 sem./27 qtr. units in major No additional local requirements allowed Chancellor’s Office says that based on curriculum offered at your college in alignment with the TMC, CCCs will need to offer many more degrees Details forthcoming from ASCCC and Chancellor’s Office Memo: 22_SB1440_Memo_js.pdf We included link to chancellor’s office memo from May & will have a copy in the presenter’s materials (or look it up yourself prior to presentation) While SB 1440 says minimum GPA is 2, a student’s GPA may need to be significantly higher for impacted campuses and impacted programs.
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What about Reciprocity & Substitution?
New ASCCC statement on Reciprocity, Course Substitution and Credit by Exam— in light of AA-T and AS-T degrees Counselors can use C-ID for comparability. (Please encourage college to send in CORs to C-ID) External Sources of Credit (AP, CLEP, IB) Credit by Exam Refer to the handout—ASCCC statement on reciprocity & substitution. Speaker could read aloud the parts in bold on handout.
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The new law says. . . Guaranteed admission to CSU system as a junior
“The California State University shall grant a student priority admission to his or her local California State University campus and to a program or major that is similar to his or her community college major or area of emphasis“ “similar” major determined by CSU faculty- CSU cannot require students to repeat courses similar to those completed at CCC AA-T and AS-T students admitted to CSU in a “similar” 120-unit BA/BS program are guaranteed to complete BA/BS in 60 semester units On SB 1440 site, go to COUNSELING INFO, then the excel reports on CSU Similar Degrees by Campus and CSU Similar Degrees by Major. Presenter should go to the link for “similar” to show the audience. (This is a hyperlink to the home page; scroll down to the bullet under Counseling that says CSU “similar” degrees). Remember the list gets revised regularly.
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Advice to counselors Offer workshops for students on the CSU transfer options Update catalog, transfer brochure and GE guide, transfer web page, major sheets, etc. Attend CSU Counselor Conference Provide input as local AA-T/AS-Ts are developed Check resources often: At Train the Trainer workshops Aug 2012, we gave attendees a flashdrive with a PPT for student workshops. They can use one for transfer workshops, and another PPT can be used for orientations sessions or elsewhere.
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How do I advise students?
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Who are the AA-T/AS-T students?
This degree can work for anyone targeting a CSU Alternate pathway to major prep as in ASSIST Degree works especially well for students who… Want to earn AA/AS and prepare to transfer Are applying to a non-local CSU Are applying to a CSU which has no articulation with your CCC Are applying to a CSU with “similar” major Are applying to impacted CSU (campus or major) Now has benefit for UC too May also be strong preparation for elsewhere Please keep in mind that these are based on where we are right now. . . Things could evolve.. Note that a lot more details are in the rest of this presentation, e.g. about CSU & UC.
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60 + 60 = YOUR BACHELOR’S DEGREE 60 units 60 units
AA-T/AS-T Major Preparation AI, Golden 4, Electives* CSUGE or IGETC CSU Major coursework(similar) CSU General Education (upper division) Electives can include AI, foreign language requirements or other courses as recommended. Also---take the Golden 4 Some TMCs (and therefore your local TMC-aligned degrees) do not have much room for electives. 60 units 60 units = YOUR BACHELOR’S DEGREE
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The CSU Admission Process
California State University Office of the Chancellor
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The “Similar Degree Determination Process
CCC campuses build/modify a proposed degree which fits within the TMC template = AA-T/AS-T CSU campuses review the TMC templates to determine whether the undergraduate preparation would allow a student to successfully complete the bachelor's degree within 60 additional units. Campuses have been given strategies to get more majors and options into the “similar” category
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CSU Minimum Admission Requirements
Met by the AA-T/AS-T which includes: 60 semester units or 90 quarter units that are eligible for transfer to the California State University. And either the Intersegmental General Education Transfer Curriculum (IGETC-CSU) or the CSU GE-Breadth Requirements Including Golden Four (A3‐‐critical thinking, A1‐‐communication, A2‐‐English composition, and B4‐‐quantitative reasoning w/a minimum grade of “C”) GE Certification is not required A minimum of 18 semester units or 27 quarter units in a major or area of emphasis Obtainment of a minimum grade point average of 2.0
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What’s the Guarantee? (the fine print)
A student who completes an Associate’s Degree for Transfer at a California Community College is guaranteed admission to the California State University No guarantee to any particular campus or program. To qualify: The student must be conferred an AA-T or AS-T degree Apply for admission to California State University campuses for an open term by the published deadline Submit all requested transcripts and documents by published deadlines, Meet CSU admission eligibility requirements for the program to which they have applied, And comply with any other prescribed admission requirements.
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What’s the Guarantee? 2. AA-T/AS-T graduates who are admitted to a CSU program that has been deemed similar to the Associate’s Degree for Transfer will be able to complete the Baccalaureate Degree in the similar option in the discipline within 60 semester or 90 quarter units As long as the student successfully completes each required course without repeating them. Or supplementing instruction with additional courses for minors or areas of emphasis. Continuous enrollment in the same academic major is required unless the student is on an approved leave of absence. To maintain the guarantee, continuous enrollment in the same academic major is required unless the student is on an approved leave of absence. After enrollment at a CSU campus begins, the guarantee is not transferable to another CSU campus.
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How are AA-T/AS-T degrees considered in admission?
CSU Campus Admissions Impaction Status Similar Degree Local Applicant Non-Local Applicant No Impaction Priority Admission Min. 2.0 GPA (Ed. Code 66745) Campus Impacted Supplementary GPA Requirement Additional .20 GPA Point Program Impacted (Any CA Student) Additional .10 GPA Point (20 seats or more) Campus & Program Impacted
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THE ADMISSION PROCESS
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CSU Updates to Policies and Procedures
Counselor & Educator publication updates Mandatory catalog updates Coded Memorandum on SB implementation Communication with outreach, articulation, admissions, registrars, advising, etc.
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Admission Process CSU Mentor: New SB1440 Section on Application
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Application Verification Process
Student self-reported applicant responses to AA-T/AS-T questions from CSU Mentor Applicant data disaggregated by CCC and CSU Student data sent to CCCCO SB1440 Implementation & Oversight Committee and CSSO group determine the verification timeline for each term Timeline includes petition to graduate verification dates Determines the CSU communication to applicants on process Applicants provide evaluation documents to CSU
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Spring 2013 Verification Timeline
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Application Verification Process
“AA-T or AS-T” degree applicants who’s self reported information on CSU Mentor meet the basic eligible standards (i.e. CCC, degree) are sent communication from the CSUCO with instructions on the evaluation requirement
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Application Verification Process
Instructions to access secure individual campus files provided to identified contacts at CSU and CCC Students who petitioned for degree are expected to provide a copy of their evaluation/report to CSU campuses to which they had applied Students required to provide final transcript showing awarding of AA-T/AS-T degree to CSU
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Admissions Evaluation
All applicants still must follow campus instructions regarding documents and other requirements Local campus process varied by impaction status: Campuses continuing to admit all CSU eligible upper division transfers could continue with existing processes Campuses which were impacted at the upper division transfer level or by major(s) reviewed groups of applications based upon potential impact of AA-T/AS-T consideration
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Fall 2013 CSU Process Enhancements
Built-in validation of CCC and AA-T/AS-T major reported in CSU Mentor Improved ability for redirecting verified AA-T/AS-T applicants who are not admitted to the impacted major or campus Ongoing rethinking of verification process
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The California State University
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Case Scenarios A student at your college wants to study Communication at CSULA. Questions: Is the AA-T in this major offered at your college? Is a similar major offered at CSULA? Is the major/campus impacted? Is your college in CSULA’s local admission area? These are the kinds of questions you’ll review with a student.
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What about UC? SB1440 does not pertain to UC, but. . .
UC has added two eligibility pathways for transfer admission: (1) Completion of a UC Transfer Curriculum (in the major), and (2) completion of an approved Associate Degree for Transfer (in the major) from a California Community College.
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What about UC? What does this mean?
AA-T/AS-T guarantees a Comprehensive Review Most AA-T/AS-T applicants will be well- prepared to compete When choices are available, students will want to select the most rigorous options as outlined in the UC Transfer Preparation Paths (e.g., IGETC over CSU Breadth)
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What about UC? What are UC Transfer Curricula?
UC faculty are discussing lower-division major prep in light of the TMC and existing commonalities across UC Fall 2010: Math, Bio, Psych, Comp Science, & History Spring 2011: Sociology and Physics Additional disciplines expected in A great deal of similarity already exists, but conversations continue on the campuses and at the system level
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Thank you for participating!
Stay tuned… More TMCs and local AA-T/AS-T degrees being developed New information will be added to the websites Thank you for participating! Add logo
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