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doc.: IEEE /800r2 Submission July 2004 Donald Eastlake 3rd, MotorolaSlide 1 Mesh Networking Task Group Process Donald E. Eastlake 3 rd

doc.: IEEE /800r2 Submission July 2004 Donald Eastlake 3rd, MotorolaSlide 2 Generic Process of Getting to Letter Ballot Adoption of PAR and 5 Criteria Technical Presentations and Discussions Specify Any Additional Requirements and Comparison Criteria Call For Proposals Select/Combine from Submitted Complete/Partial Proposals to Produce a Draft Refine Draft Letter Ballot

doc.: IEEE /800r2 Submission July 2004 Donald Eastlake 3rd, MotorolaSlide Example Project Histories (Figure above by Bruce Kramer.) 11s 24-Jun-04 May/July 05 Nov 06

doc.: IEEE /800r2 Submission July 2004 Donald Eastlake 3rd, MotorolaSlide 4 Goals for July 2004 Meeting Adopted By ESS Mesh SG in May July (Portland, Oregon) –Usage Cases and Functional Requirements discussion –Adopt Initial Definitions document –Architecture Presentations –Other ad-hoc subgroup results and Presentations –Joint Meeting with r, etc.

doc.: IEEE /800r2 Submission July 2004 Donald Eastlake 3rd, MotorolaSlide 5 Future Schedule as Discussed at May 2004 Meeting September 2004 (Berlin, German) –Adopt Functional Requirements / Evaluation Criteria document –Adopt Skeleton “Pre-Draft” –Other ad-hoc subgroup results –Call for Proposals issued immediately after meeting with deadline for submission of two weeks before the November meeting. November 2004 (San Antonio, Texas) –Presentation of Proposals January 2005 (Monterey, California) –Condensation of Proposals -> Draft 0.1 March 2005 (Atlanta, Georgia) –Refinement of Draft (May 2005 (Sydney, Australia) –Letter Ballot Authorized?)

doc.: IEEE /800r2 Submission July 2004 Donald Eastlake 3rd, MotorolaSlide 6 Ad Hoc Subgroups and Internal TGs Actions Ad Hoc Subgroups –Have no special status unless TGs votes on them or their output. –Any group of members can get together and make submissions. Within the Policies and Procedures (11-04/510r0), we can do what we want internally: –“Adopted” internal TGs motions/documents can be amended by majority with notice (i.e., if change is on agenda) or 2/3 vote without notice. –We can issue a call for proposals With no requirements other than the PAR & 5 Criteria With some guidelines With detailed requirements –We can have “Functional Requirements Document” that is a general or specific as we like.

doc.: IEEE /800r2 Submission July 2004 Donald Eastlake 3rd, MotorolaSlide 7 Informal Ad Hoc Subgroups Usage Cases – coordinator Steve Conner –“Usage Models”, 11-04/764r1 and 11-04/662r7 Definitions – coordinator Tricci So –“Draft Terms and Definitions for s”, 11-04/730r1 Quality of Service / e – coordinator Lily Yang –“MAC considerations for 11s”, 11-04/760r0 Security / i, 802.1ae, 802.1af – coordinators Bob Moskowitz, Jasmeet Chhabra –“802.11s Security Ad Hoc”, 11-04/826r0

doc.: IEEE /800r2 Submission July 2004 Donald Eastlake 3rd, MotorolaSlide 8 Informal Ad Hoc Subgroups (cont.) Routing – coordinator Tyan-Shu Jou –“802.11s Routing Sub-Group Discussion on May 04”, 11-04/765r0 Other –802.11k, h /Radio Resources/Metrics – coordinator –WNM, CAPWAP /Management – coordinator The above groups may be using the following wiki page: – bin/wiki.pl?AdHocGroupshttp://ieee.comnets.rwth-aachen.de/cgi- bin/wiki.pl?AdHocGroups

doc.: IEEE /800r2 Submission July 2004 Donald Eastlake 3rd, MotorolaSlide 9 Ad Hoc Subgroups Output Some Possible Dispositions of Ad Hoc Subgroup Output submissions (as amended if desired) are as for any other submissions: –Adopt as mandatory for proposal conformance –Adopt as an internal working document –Include in a TGs “Recommended Reading List” –No action

doc.: IEEE /800r2 Submission July 2004 Donald Eastlake 3rd, MotorolaSlide 10 Calling for Proposals in September? If a call for proposals is to be issued shortly after the September meeting, we should issue a warning at this meeting that we plan to do that. Proposals obviously must conform to the PAR and 5 Criteria. Will we have a Functional Requirements or Evaluation Criteria Document? What other documents, if any, should be referenced by the Call for Proposals?

doc.: IEEE /800r2 Submission July 2004 Donald Eastlake 3rd, MotorolaSlide 11 Possibilities to Accelerate TGs Possibilities for TGs Between July and September Meetings to accelerate action : –One Teleconference –Ad-hoc face to face meeting (requires 30 days notice (P&P clause 3.6.2)) –Multiple Teleconferences (require 10 days notice, cannot be held more often than weekly (P&P clause 3.6.3))

doc.: IEEE /800r2 Submission July 2004 Donald Eastlake 3rd, MotorolaSlide 12 Possible Liaison is working on mesh across the /3/4 protocols. Do we want a liaison with them? Is there someone willing to serve?

doc.: IEEE /800r2 Submission July 2004 Donald Eastlake 3rd, MotorolaSlide 13 Informational Queries / Straw Polls Proposers? If a TGs call for proposals was issued right after the September meeting with a deadline shortly before the November meeting, how many would submit a proposal? –Reasonably certain –50/50 –Might but probably not If call was issued after November meeting with deadline before the January meeting?

doc.: IEEE /800r2 Submission July 2004 Donald Eastlake 3rd, MotorolaSlide 14 Informational Queries / Straw Polls Usage Cases Is documenting Usage Cases important? Is each category important? –Residential –Office –Campus/Community/Public Access –Public Safety –Car to Car

doc.: IEEE /800r2 Submission July 2004 Donald Eastlake 3rd, MotorolaSlide 15 Informational Queries / Straw Polls Informal Group Submissions Status What should be the status of relevant submissions from informal groups if a majority of TGs agrees with the submission? –Strongly included as part of call for proposals –Adopted as internal working documents –Included on a TGs recommended reading list –No special status

doc.: IEEE /800r2 Submission July 2004 Donald Eastlake 3rd, MotorolaSlide 16 Informational Queries / Straw Polls When to call for Proposals? What is the current feeling of TGs as to when we should call for proposals? –July 2004 –September 2004 –November 2004 –January 2005

doc.: IEEE /800r2 Submission July 2004 Donald Eastlake 3rd, MotorolaSlide 17 Future Schedule? September 2004 (Berlin, German) –Adopt Functional Requirements / Evaluation Criteria document? –Usage Cases and Requirements –Routing and QoS –Security –Defintions –Skeleton “Pre-Draft” –Call for Proposals issued immediately after meeting with deadline for submission of two weeks before the November meeting? November 2004 (San Antonio, Texas) –Presentation of Proposals January 2005 (Monterey, California) Condensation of Proposals -> Draft 0.1 March 2005 (Atlanta, Georgia) Refinement of Draft May 2005 (Sydney, Australia) Letter Ballot Authorized?

doc.: IEEE /800r2 Submission July 2004 Donald Eastlake 3rd, MotorolaSlide 18 Informational Queries / Straw Polls Activity Before September How active should the task group be before the September meeting? –No official activity –One teleconference –Multiple teleconferences –Face-to-face ad hoc meeting