NGS Produces New Coordinates: Is it still NAD83? Past, Present, Future Marti Ikehara California Geodetic Advisor Sacramento, CA.

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NGS Produces New Coordinates: Is it still NAD83? Past, Present, Future Marti Ikehara California Geodetic Advisor Sacramento, CA

Order of Topics Terms: datum, realization, ellipsoid, epoch, projection The many flavors of NAD83 Future datums WILL be different Changes to datasheets, shapefiles Geodetic advisor program changes

Changing the Datum The Grid shifts Uniformly (mathematically) in any one region Everything gets a New coordinate! : up to 100’s of meters : 1-2 meters

Adjusting Coordinates within the Datum is a new Realization 1983 Modifying each point for its ”issues”: change is not uniform/constant everywhere 1)Actual Motion/Velocity 2)Error correction/Old data 3)New Information/Obs On the order of centimeters Done regularly: Next cm

A rose by any other name is still a rose W.S. Same NAD83 DATUM, different Realizations: 1.(86) –original, pre-GPS data 2.(92) for California; for other states (9#) 3.(CORS96) 4.(98) in CA 5.(NSRS2007) or (2007) 6.(2011) 7.Future: ~2022 and maybe in-between

What’s the same, what’s different? Same reference ellipsoid: GRS80 for each datum NAD83, WGS84, and ITRF## or IGS## Difference in datums is location of origin (center) NAD83(#) is the datum tag, represents an adjustment, either national or by state Difference is the dataset of which geodetic control points used as constraints Difference could be epoch date of coordinates NAD83(2007) or NAD83(2007)

Projections Tool to ‘translate’ geodetic locations—those that take into account the earth’s curvature-- to ‘show’ them on a flat, 2-dimensional plane Independent of datum On NGS main page, select Geodetic TOOLKIT State Plane Coordinates

NAD83 PresentPast… and Future

H + H t + V E + V Et ITRF08 ( ) Evolution of Geodetic Datums: from NAD27/NGVD29 to NAD83/NAVD88 to ?/ ? H + V , 29 H + V (86),88 H + V E + V O (92), 88 GPS +VELOCITIES (time) H + H t + V E + V O (11)+HTDP, 88 + GRAVITY (geoid model) H + H t + V E + V Et GEOMETRIC V E + G t GEOPOTENTIAL

New geometric datum minus NAD 83 (horizontal)

New geometric datum minus NAD 83 (ellipsoid height)

How to Plan for the Future Utilize newest realization, i.e. NAD 83(2011) epoch – NAD 83(HARN) NAD 83(NSRS2007) & NAD 83(NSRS2007) NAD 83(2011) tools under development Move from NGVD 29 to NAVD 88 – Understand the accuracy of VERTCON in your area Move away from passive marks to CGPS – Especially move off of classical (non GPS) passive geodetic control Require/provide complete metadata for all mapping contracts – What realization? Just “NAD83” is not enough. What EPOCH? – How did they (you) get the positions/heights? DOCUMENT!!

OPUS Reference Frame Choices

NEED for a new national adjustment, NA2011 project, for passive geodetic stations Optimally align passive control with CORS >1000 projects submitted since 2007 NatlReadj – Number of stations increased by 1/3 in just 5 years! – Plus Observations for Hawaii & other Pacific islands Database pull as of 3/28/12; includes some critical leveling (& GPS obs) in Gulf States More consistent results in tectonically active areas: – Longer time series for CORS, as well as – More current data for passive, and better tectonic modeling for applying HTDP to obs back 20+ years

NA2011 CONUS (29 yrs): 426,977 vectors

DATASHEET Change highlights Better grouping of geometric elements, eg, ellipsoid height and epoch date CLARITY about geoid model usage, including for superceded ortho height data Note: last year, NGS started publishing superceded GPS-derived ortho heights Inclusion (hyperlink) to Local Ties & Accuracies Shapefile content changing—adding field to identify/distinguish Ht Mod (GPS OBS) vertical

Datasheet Format/Content Changes Move ell ht and epoch info into top box Note when GPS Ortho Ht computed with previous geoid model, and provide that model ht Better way to quantify accuracies

Local Accuracies

NGS Geodetic Advisors in the West State Advisor Branch Chief:  SW Region (AZ,NM,NV,UT) William Stone  Oregon Mark L. Armstrong  Colorado Pam Fromhertz  Idaho/Montana Curt Smith  Wyoming Mike Londe (BLM)

The Changing Face of the Geodetic Advisor Program 1. What are we not? GEODENTIST 2. What/who are we? 3. How is it changing?

The Changing Face of the Geodetic Advisor Program 1. What are we not? 2. What are we? We provide the link between Geodesy and other customers, typically surveyors but also anyone wanting to connect to the NSRS Who are we? 20 advisors; 3 are PLS, 2 of those also PE, 2 are PhD 1/3 transitioned from NGS field assignments; others came fr other gov, 2 came fr the cooperator

The Changing Face of the Geodetic Advisor Program  Provide equal service to non-coop states  REGIONALIZATION  15 advisors total for 50 states, PR, Pacific islands  Regions being discussed in NGS Advisory Group is Chair (SAB Chief)  Proposal includes “State Coordinator” as POC  Transition in next 4 years, with attrition due to retirements