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Plato on Change

Gorgias (c 485-380)

Gorgias (c 485-380) Protagoras (c 490-420)

Socrates (469/70-399 BCE)

Plato (428-347BCE)

“Becoming” is by us incorrectly called being, but is really becoming, for nothing ever is, but all things are becoming. Summon all philosophers-Protagoras, Heraclitus, Empedocles, and the rest of them, one after another, and with the exception of Parmenides they will agree with you in this. Plato, Theaetetus

The Divided Line Higher Forms (the Good, the Beautiful, etc.) Ontological Epistemic Higher Forms (the Good, the Beautiful, etc.) Lower Forms (shapes, numbers, etc.) Physical Objects (plants, tables, etc.) Images (paintings, pictures, etc.) Understanding (philosophy) Reason (mathematics) Perception (science) Imagination (art) Being Knowledge Becoming Opinion

The Divided Line Higher Forms (the Good, the Beautiful, etc.) Ontological Epistemic Higher Forms (the Good, the Beautiful, etc.) Lower Forms (shapes, numbers, etc.) Physical Objects (plants, tables, etc.) Images (paintings, pictures, etc.) Understanding (philosophy) Reason (mathematics) Perception (science) Imagination (art) Being Knowledge Becoming Opinion

The Divided Line Higher Forms (the Good, the Beautiful, etc.) Ontological Epistemic Higher Forms (the Good, the Beautiful, etc.) Lower Forms (shapes, numbers, etc.) Physical Objects (plants, tables, etc.) Images (paintings, pictures, etc.) Understanding (philosophy) Reason (mathematics) Perception (science) Imagination (art) Being Knowledge Becoming Opinion

Do we say that there is such a thing as the Just itself, or not Do we say that there is such a thing as the Just itself, or not? We do say so, by Zeus. And the Beautiful, and the Good? Of course. And have you ever seen any of these things with your eyes? In no way, he said. Or have you ever grasped them with any of your bodily senses?... [Or do you instead do so] by using pure thought alone?

Well then, consider what then follows if you also accept my hypothesis Well then, consider what then follows if you also accept my hypothesis. For it seems to me that if anything else is beautiful besides Beauty itself, it is beautiful on account of nothing else than because it partakes of Beauty Itself. And I speak in the same way about everything else. Plato, Phaedo

Platonic Forms are: ungenerated, indestructible, unchanging, indivisible, imperceptible, immaterial, and ultimately real.

The Divided Line Higher Forms (the Good, the Beautiful, etc.) Ontological Epistemic Higher Forms (the Good, the Beautiful, etc.) Lower Forms (shapes, numbers, etc.) Physical Objects (plants, tables, etc.) Images (paintings, pictures, etc.) Understanding (philosophy) Reason (mathematics) Perception (science) Imagination (art) Being Knowledge Becoming Opinion

The Divided Line Higher Forms (the Good, the Beautiful, etc.) Ontological Epistemic Higher Forms (the Good, the Beautiful, etc.) Lower Forms (shapes, numbers, etc.) Physical Objects (plants, tables, etc.) Images (paintings, pictures, etc.) Understanding (philosophy) Reason (mathematics) Perception (science) Imagination (art) Being Knowledge Becoming Opinion

The Divided Line Higher Forms (the Good, the Beautiful, etc.) Ontological Epistemic Higher Forms (the Good, the Beautiful, etc.) Lower Forms (shapes, numbers, etc.) Physical Objects (plants, tables, etc.) Images (paintings, pictures, etc.) Understanding (philosophy) Reason (mathematics) Perception (science) Imagination (art) Being Knowledge Becoming Opinion

The Divided Line Higher Forms (the Good, the Beautiful, etc.) Ontological Epistemic Higher Forms (the Good, the Beautiful, etc.) Lower Forms (shapes, numbers, etc.) Physical Objects (plants, tables, etc.) Images (paintings, pictures, etc.) Understanding (philosophy) Reason (mathematics) Perception (science) Imagination (art) Being Knowledge Becoming Opinion

The Divided Line Higher Forms (the Good, the Beautiful, etc.) Ontological Epistemic Higher Forms (the Good, the Beautiful, etc.) Lower Forms (shapes, numbers, etc.) Physical Objects (plants, tables, etc.) Images (paintings, pictures, etc.) Understanding (philosophy) Reason (mathematics) Perception (science) Imagination (art) Being Knowledge Becoming Opinion

The Divided Line Higher Forms (the Good, the Beautiful, etc.) Ontological Epistemic Higher Forms (the Good, the Beautiful, etc.) Lower Forms (shapes, numbers, etc.) Physical Objects (plants, tables, etc.) Images (paintings, pictures, etc.) Understanding (philosophy) Reason (mathematics) Perception (science) Imagination (art) Being Knowledge Becoming Opinion

The Divided Line Higher Forms (the Good, the Beautiful, etc.) Ontological Epistemic Higher Forms (the Good, the Beautiful, etc.) Lower Forms (shapes, numbers, etc.) Physical Objects (plants, tables, etc.) Images (paintings, pictures, etc.) Understanding (philosophy) Reason (mathematics) Perception (science) Imagination (art) Being Knowledge Becoming Opinion

The Divided Line Higher Forms (the Good, the Beautiful, etc.) Ontological Epistemic Higher Forms (the Good, the Beautiful, etc.) Lower Forms (shapes, numbers, etc.) Physical Objects (plants, tables, etc.) Images (paintings, pictures, etc.) Understanding (philosophy) Reason (mathematics) Perception (science) Imagination (art) Being Knowledge Becoming Opinion

The Divided Line Higher Forms (the Good, the Beautiful, etc.) Ontological Epistemic Higher Forms (the Good, the Beautiful, etc.) Lower Forms (shapes, numbers, etc.) Physical Objects (plants, tables, etc.) Images (paintings, pictures, etc.) Understanding (philosophy) Reason (mathematics) Perception (science) Imagination (art) Being Knowledge Becoming Opinion

The Divided Line Higher Forms (the Good, the Beautiful, etc.) Ontological Epistemic Higher Forms (the Good, the Beautiful, etc.) Lower Forms (shapes, numbers, etc.) Physical Objects (plants, tables, etc.) Images (paintings, pictures, etc.) Understanding (philosophy) Reason (mathematics) Perception (science) Imagination (art) Being Knowledge Becoming Opinion

One excellent proof, said Cebes, is afforded by questions One excellent proof, said Cebes, is afforded by questions. If you put a question to a person in a right way, he will give a true answer of himself; but how could he do this unless there were knowledge and right reason already in him? Plato, Phaedo

Do you realize what a debater’s argument you are bringing up, that a man cannot search either for what he knows or for what he does not know? He cannot search for what he knows—since he knows it, there is no need to search—nor for what he does not know, for he does not know what to look for. Plato, Meno

The Paradox of Inquiry For any question, you either already know the answer or you don’t. If you know already the answer, then inquiry is unnecessary. If you don’t, then inquiry is impossible. All inquiry is either unnecessary or impossible.