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1 Plato’s Forms

2 Plato 429-327 BC Student of Socrates (496-399)
Teacher of Aristotle ( ) Founded ‘Academy’ Wrote Dialogues Theaetetus Republic Meno

3 Theaetetus A late treatment of knowledge
Dismisses two possibilities for knowledge Perception True belief Proposes: True Belief with an Account To know X is to truly believe X and to have an account of X But what is an account? Justification for the belief?

4 Theaetetus First possibility: an account is an analysis of how X is composed of simpler parts So no simple thing can be known? Reject this idea

5 Theaetetus Second possibility: an account is a catalogue of the component parts But you can list the parts of a chariot without having an understanding of the chariot itself. Reject this idea

6 Theaetetus Third possibility: an account is an identification of the distinguishing characteristic To know X about the sun is for X to be a true belief and you can identify the sun as, say, the brightest object in the sky But this means there is always something else to know before you can know any X Reject this idea

7 Meno’s Paradox The Paradox of Inquiry
MENO: How will you look for it, Socrates, when you do not know at all what it is? How will you aim to search for something you do not know at all? If you should happen to meet with it, how will you know that this is the thing that you did not know? SOCRATES: I know what you want to say, Meno. Do you realise what a debater’s argument you are bringing up, that a man cannot search either for what he knows or for what he does not know? He cannot search for what he knows – since he knows it, there is no need to search – nor for what he does not know, for he does not know what to look for.

8 Meno’s Paradox The Paradox of Inquiry
The ‘accounts’ are attempts to solve this They all fail Thus it is impossible to learn new things Thus All knowledge is impossible OR We already know everything that can be known

9 The Theory of the Forms There is a way we can know things
There are non-mental and non-physical ‘Forms’ (ideas in Greek) Things in the world are what they are because they are in some way connected to their Forms We can know things only through ‘acquaintance’ with their Forms We make this acquaintance before our birth!

10 The Theory of the Forms Forms explain the possibility of general terms
We can call many things by one name All things which are dogs we can call a dog. There must be something which is: Common to all things called by a general term Distinctive of all those things This thing is Not physical – not all dogs have any physical trait Recognisable by us – but not by our senses

11 The Theory of the Forms Forms explain the possibility of judgement
All judgement is a type of comparing ‘This is a dog’ means I am comparing ‘this’ to some standard of dogginess The standard can’t be another dog – else I have to first judge that that is a dog, and so on The standard can’t be my idea of a dog – it is the idea of a dog only because it is judged to represent dogs accurately. So I still need to judge its dogginess; and so on.

12 The Theory of the Forms Forms explain the possibility of judgement
The standard of ‘dog’ can’t be physical or mental It is metaphysical It is that in virtue of which All things properly called ‘dog’ are properly so called Only things properly called ‘dog’ are properly so called We call it the Form of dog, or dog-in-itself, …

13 The Theory of the Forms How do Forms relate to their particulars?
Transcendence: there is far more to the Forms than the particular things which fall under them Immanence: the Forms are present in their particulars, but not in a way that we can perceive through our senses

14 The Theory of the Forms How do we come to know of them?
Not by our external senses (perception) Not by our internal sense (awareness) But by intellectual perception or awareness of the understanding (Whatever those might be)

15 The Theory of the Forms Who is capable of knowing them?
We are all able to use the term ‘dog’ correctly, So we are all ‘intellectually aware’ of the Form of Dog Dog is the Form of a mundane thing – it is a ‘lower’ Form ‘Higher’ Forms are of things such as Triangle, Courage, Equal, Noble, … Only those trained as intellectuals can ‘perceive these in their understanding’

16 How we Know How do we come to know the higher Forms?
Plato gives an example in the Meno A slave is taught to double a square Slave thinks he knows but gives the wrong answer at first before Socrates begins to question him This also shows the value of elenchus Socrates then gets the slave to give the right answer Since the slave only answered questions, he must have known how to double a square already

17 The Allegory of the Cave
What is the difference between how normal people see the world and how philosophers see it?

18 The Objects of Knowledge
Only the Forms are objects of real knowledge They are permanent, unchanging, always true What is learnt through the senses is ‘opinion’ It is impermanent, changeable, sometimes true and sometimes not Plato is contradicted by Aristotle, as we shall see


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