1. Ramsoc:
Grade 1 Theory
Aim: To build confidence in the areas of basic navigation and group management.

2. Introduction Introduction
Grade 1 is the first session in the Ramsoc training programme
This is an optional preparation for Grade 2 (leadership training)
You won’t necessarily have to lead walks afterwards!
We hope to build your confidence and inspire you to go on further in the training program
Grade 1 is the first session in the Ramsoc training programme
This is an optional preparation for Grade 2 (leadership training)
You won’t necessarily have to lead walks afterwards!
We hope to build your confidence and inspire you to go on further in the training program

3. What is Grade 1 Grade 1 Low level walks Mainly in the White Peak
Some easier Dark Peak and Weekend Walks
Only basic Navigation is necessary
Walks will normally not exceed 400m above sea level
Grade 2
Medium level walks
Rising between 366m and 671m above sea level
Often leading walks in the Dark Peak and medium level walks on weekends
Grade 3
High level walks in mountainous areas
Also includes moorland and regions were it would take more than an hour to reach habitation
Walks include those in Snowdonia, Lake District and The Yorkshire Dales

4. Introduction Today's Training Team :
Tom Blann ~ Mountain Leader Trained, Club President
Graham Parkes ~ ML Trained, Past Ramblesec
Dave Roberts ~ ML Trained, Past Ramblesec
Mike Slevin ~ ML Trained, Safety Officer

5. Introduction Today's training will be split into two sections:
Session 1: Basic Navigation
Session 2: Group Management
With session 1 lasting 70 minutes
Then there will be a 5 minute interval
Concluding with session 2 lasting 50 minutes
Q and A Sessions at the end of both sections

6. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Learning Objectives for part 1:
By the end of the session participants will be able to:
Understand the Grid System in the UK
Be able to give an accurate 6 figure grid reference
Accurately interpret common map symbols
Understand the nature of the map as a two dimensional plan.
Relate a map to the land and vice versa
Orientate a map
Know the relevant parts of a magnetic compass and be able to take a bearing
Understand and interpret contour lines and landforms
Understand how rights of way are shown on the map.
Be confident in using a map and compass to safely navigate in lowland areas such as the Peak District

7. Understanding the UK grid system Understanding the UK grid system
Session 1: Basic Navigation
Session 1: Basic Navigation
Understanding the UK grid system
Understanding the UK grid system
Understanding the UK grid system
A distinctive feature of British maps is the grid structure of blue lines superimposed over the whole country
Grid lines form the basis of a numerical reference system
A distinctive feature of British maps is the grid structure of blue lines superimposed over the whole country
Grid lines form the basis of a numerical reference system
A distinctive feature of British maps is the grid structure of blue lines superimposed over the whole country
Grid lines form the basis of a numerical reference system
This allows any point to be pinpointed and communicated

8. Understanding the UK grid system Understanding the UK grid system
Session 1: Basic Navigation
Session 1: Basic Navigation
Understanding the UK grid system
Understanding the UK grid system
Understanding the UK grid system
Initially the UK is split into squares measuring 500km2 and denoted by letters
Initially the UK is split into squares measuring 500km2 and denoted by letters
Initially the UK is split into squares measuring 500km2 and denoted by letters

10. Understanding the UK grid system Understanding the UK grid system
Session 1: Basic Navigation
Session 1: Basic Navigation
Understanding the UK grid system
Understanding the UK grid system
Initially the UK is split into squares measuring 500km2 and denoted by letters
These Squares are then systematically broken down into progressively smaller squares
Each area is then subdivided into squares with sides of 1km that form the overlay on a standard OS 1:25000 map

11. Understanding the UK grid system Understanding the UK grid system
Session 1: Basic Navigation
Session 1: Basic Navigation
Understanding the UK grid system
Understanding the UK grid system 14 13

12. Understanding the UK grid system
Session 1: Basic Navigation
Understanding the UK grid system
Initially the UK is split into squares measuring 500km2 and denoted by letters
These Squares are then systematically broken down into progressively smaller squares
Each area is then subdivided into squares with sides of 1km that form the overlay on a standard OS 1:25000 map
Each of these grid squares is assigned a specific four-figure reference
There is however a margin for error with this system, and confusion does at times occur

13. 6 Figure Grid References
Session 1: Basic Navigation
Session 1: Basic Navigation
Session 1: Basic Navigation
6 Figure Grid References
The main reason for printing a grid system on maps is to create a numerical system for defining a specific location
To ensure accuracy a 6 figure grid reference is used
These can be estimated by eye or measured using a ruler, or with a Romer (often found on the base plate of a compass)
It is important to understand how to give an accurate 6 figure grid reference

14. 6 Figure Grid References 6 Figure Grid References
Session 1: Basic Navigation
Session 1: Basic Navigation
Session 1: Basic Navigation
Session 1: Basic Navigation
6 Figure Grid References
6 Figure Grid References
6 Figure Grid References
6 Figure Grid References
How to take a 6 figure grid reference
Identify the 1km square where the object you are trying to identify can be found in.

15. 6 Figure Grid References 6 Figure Grid References
Session 1: Basic Navigation
Session 1: Basic Navigation
Session 1: Basic Navigation
Session 1: Basic Navigation
Session 1: Basic Navigation
6 Figure Grid References
6 Figure Grid References
6 Figure Grid References
6 Figure Grid References
6 Figure Grid References
How to take a 6 figure grid reference
Identify the 1km square where the object you are trying to identify can be found in.
How to take a 6 figure grid reference
Identify the 1km square where the object you are trying to identify can be found in.
How to take a 6 figure grid reference
Identify the 1km square where the object you are trying to identify can be found in.
How to take a 6 figure grid reference
Identify the 1km square where the object you are trying to identify can be found in. 14 13

16. 6 Figure Grid References
Session 1: Basic Navigation
6 Figure Grid References
How to take a 6 figure grid reference
Identify the 1km square where the object you are trying to identify can be found in.
Establish the Easting’s (those lines running from West to East) and the Northing’s (those lines running from South to North) remembering that when you read a grid reference you go horizontally first then vertically (along the corridor then up the stairs)

17. 6 Figure Grid References 6 Figure Grid References
Session 1: Basic Navigation
6 Figure Grid References
6 Figure Grid References 14
Grid Ref: 2613 14 13 13

18. 6 Figure Grid References 6 Figure Grid References
Session 1: Basic Navigation
Session 1: Basic Navigation
6 Figure Grid References
6 Figure Grid References
How to take a 6 figure grid reference
Identify the 1km square where the object you are trying to identify can be found in.
Establish the Easting’s (those lines running from West to East) and the Northing’s (those lines running from South to North) remembering that when you read a grid reference you go horizontally first then vertically (along the corridor then up the stairs)
Imagine the 1km square to be split into 10 increments

19. 6 Figure Grid References
Session 1: Basic Navigation
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20. 6 Figure Grid References 6 Figure Grid References
Session 1: Basic Navigation
Session 1: Basic Navigation
Session 1: Basic Navigation
Session 1: Basic Navigation
6 Figure Grid References
6 Figure Grid References
6 Figure Grid References
6 Figure Grid References
How to take a 6 figure grid reference
Identify the 1km square where the object you are trying to identify can be found in.
Establish the Easting’s (those lines running from West to East) and the Northing’s (those lines running from South to North) remembering that when you read a grid reference you go horizontally first then vertically (along the corridor then up the stairs)
Imagine the 1km square to be split into 10 increments
Locate the smaller square closest to the object your are identifying

21. 6 Figure Grid References
Session 1: Basic Navigation
6 Figure Grid References 14 14 14 14 14 14 14 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 13 13 13 13 13 13 13

22. 6 Figure Grid References 6 Figure Grid References
Session 1: Basic Navigation
Session 1: Basic Navigation
6 Figure Grid References
6 Figure Grid References
How to take a 6 figure grid reference
Identify the 1km square where the object you are trying to identify can be found in.
Establish the Easting’s (those lines running from West to East) and the Northing’s (those lines running from South to North) remembering that when you read a grid reference you go horizontally first then vertically (along the corridor then up the stairs)
Imagine the 1km square to be split into 10 increments
Locate the smaller square closest to the object your are identifying
Read the grid reference as the intersect in the bottom left hand corner of that square
The grid reference for the red square is therefore:
263136

23. 6 Figure Grid References
Session 1: Basic Navigation
6 Figure Grid References
Activity In pairs or small groups try taking an accurate 6 figure grid reference You will all be given a map and asked to give a grid reference for three different locations or objects, see if you can accurately identify them

24. Map Symbols Map Symbols Session 1: Basic Navigation
It is important to be able to identify commonly used map symbols (especially this one, PH)
Being able to correctly identify map symbols will not only help you to navigate but may be useful to determine suitability of terrain, allow for a more precise description of your location or to avoid potential dangers
A definitive list of symbols can be found on the key of any OS map

25. Map Symbols Map Symbols Session 1: Basic Navigation
Activity A quick quiz to see how many regularly used OS Map symbols and denotations you already know!

26. Map Symbols Map Symbols Session 1: Basic Navigation
Fingers on Buzzers Or
Hands in the air when you think you know the answer

27. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Map Symbols

28. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Map Symbols
Railway Station

29. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Map Symbols

30. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Map Symbols
Footpath

31. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Map Symbols

32. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Map Symbols
National Trail

33. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Map Symbols

34. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Map Symbols
Main / Trunk Road

35. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Map Symbols

36. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Map Symbols
Camping / Caravanning site

37. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Map Symbols

38. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Map Symbols
View Point

39. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Map Symbols

40. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Map Symbols
Access land Boundary

41. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Map Symbols

42. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Map Symbols
Public Telephone

43. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Map Symbols

44. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Map Symbols
Parking

45. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Map Symbols

46. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Map Symbols
Nature Reserve

47. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Map Symbols

48. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Map Symbols
Place of worship with a spire

49. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Map Symbols

50. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Map Symbols
Place of worship with a tower

51. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Map Symbols

52. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Map Symbols
Youth Hostel

53. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Map Symbols

54. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Map Symbols
School

55. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Map Symbols

56. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Map Symbols
Public Convenience

57. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Map Symbols

58. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Map Symbols
Electricity Transmission Line

59. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Map Symbols

60. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Map Symbols
Quarry

61. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Map Symbols

62. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Map Symbols
Footbridge

63. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Map Symbols

64. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Map Symbols
Non Coniferous /
Coniferous trees

65. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Map Symbols

66. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Map Symbols
Well
Spring

67. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Map Symbols

68. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Map Symbols
Marsh / Reeds

69. Relating the map to the ground
Session 1: Basic Navigation
Relating the map to the ground
Interpreting a map correctly is the most basic and useful navigational skill
Maps are simply an accurate picture of the ground as seen from above, scaled down from life size and with symbols to show particular features and landmarks
An OS map is a 2D representation of a 3D landscape

70. Relating the map to the ground
Session 1: Basic Navigation
Relating the map to the ground
It shows all of the necessary detail to represent a 3D landscape using a variety of different techniques
These Include:
Contour lines
Rivers and streams
Areas of Trees
Roads and Paths
Different types of terrain
Walls
Buildings

71. Relating the map to the ground
Session 1: Basic Navigation
Relating the map to the ground
The most important and reliable information found on a map are provided by contours
These allow the map reader to build a mental picture of the three dimensional shape of the land
Other features can then be superimposed over the top of this land form e.g. Buildings, Streams, Walls etc.

72. Relating the map to the ground
Session 1: Basic Navigation
Relating the map to the ground
It should be remembered that these features might change over time, paths or even streams reroute themselves and walls become removed or fall down
Although Maps are very accurate, occasionally minor errors occur.
Also the man made landscape can change quickly drastically altering what can be seen on the land

73. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Orientating the Map
Why is Orientating a map important?
To aid the process of relating the map to the ground
How do we orientate the map?

74. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Orientating the Map
By eye: Rotate the map so landmarks you can see such as lakes, roads, FP’s and buildings align with map
If you hold the map up you should be able to directly align it to the landscape using these features

75. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Orientating the Map
Using a Compass:
Set the dial to 0o
Line up the edge of the compass with a vertical grid line (Northing)
Leaving the orientation arrow on the baseplate pointing upwards
Rotate both the map and compass together until the Red needle is lined up with the orientation arrow

76. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Orientating the Map
We will go into more detail on this at the practical session on Sunday

77. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Contours and Features
Contour Lines:
Join points of equal height above sea level
Are shown on the map as Brown / Orange lines
Usually at 10m Intervals but check on the map
Every 5th line is an index contour and will be slightly bolder
Show inclination of the land as well as slope and aspect

78. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Contours and Features
Contour Lines:
The closer the contour lines are together the steeper the slope
Contours will be marked with their relative heights at different intervals
It is important to identify when a contour is showing an incline or decline
For ridges the point of the V points towards lower ground
For valleys the point of the V points towards higher land
Note: usually a stream can be found in a valley

79. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Contours and Features
Contour Features
Often you find typical features formed by contours such as: Ridges, Saddles, Valleys and Knoll’s
These will be covered in more detailed in Grade 2
Here is an example of contour lines using the software Memory Map

80. Session 1: Basic Navigation
The Compass
How many parts of a compass can you identify?

81. Session 1: Basic Navigation
The Compass

82. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Bearings
What is a bearing?
A bearing is the angle of direction of one object or destination from another
Why might it be necessary to use a bearing as a method of navigation
Poor visibility
Lack of other navigational features i.e. On top of Kinder
For reassurance

83. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Bearings
How to take a bearing
Find the two points on the map that you want to travel from and to. Line up your compass edge between the two points, so that your direction of travel arrow is pointing to your destination.

84. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Bearings

85. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Bearings
How to take a bearing
Find the two points on the map that you want to travel from and to. Line up your compass edge between the two points, so that your direction of travel arrow is pointing to your destination.
Rotate the compass housing to align the orienting lines with the north-south grid lines on the map

86. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Bearings

87. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Bearings
How to take a bearing
Find the two points on the map that you want to travel from and to. Line up your compass edge between the two points, so that your direction of travel arrow is pointing to your destination.
Rotate the compass housing to align the orienting lines with the north-south lines on the map
Rotate the compass housing to compensate for magnetic variation

88. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Bearings

89. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Bearings
How to take a bearing
Find the two points on the map that you want to travel from and to. Line up your compass edge between the two points, so that your direction of travel arrow is pointing to your destination.
Rotate the compass housing to align the orienting lines with the north-south lines on the map
Rotate the compass housing to compensate for magnetic variation
Remove the compass from the map, rotate the compass so that the north end of the needle and the orienting arrow are aligned and then proceed following the direction of travel arrow

90. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Bearings

91. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Bearings
Get into pairs and spend a few minutes practicing how to take a bearing
We will practice this technique a lot more in detail on Sundays practical session

92. Session 1: Basic Navigation
Any Questions?

93. 5 Minute Break

94. 4 Minutes Left

95. 3 Minutes Left

96. 2 Minutes Left

97. 1 Minute Left

98. Session 2: Group Management
The group should be
“helped to lead itself as far as it is judged capable of safely doing so.” Eric Langmuir

99. Session 2: Group Management
Learning Objectives for part 2:
By the end of the session participants will be able to:
Answer the Question, Why be a leader?
Understand the role and responsibilities of a Ramsoc Leader
Understand different leadership techniques
Appropriately use tools for conflict management
Use both their own and other leader’s strengths for the benefit of their group
Cope with emergency situations likely to occur on the hill
Identify and manage problems that might occur on the hill, including environmental and human hazards
Feel confident in their ability to lead and manage a group on a G1 walk

100. Session 2: Group Management
Why be a leader?
Put your suggestions on the board
Think - What motivates people to lead?

101. Session 2: Group Management
Why be a leader?
Rewarding – application of personal skills to benefit others
Give something back to the club
Further develop your personal skills i.e. leadership, navigation
Meet people and get more out of the club because of increased involvement
Get to choose lunch breaks!

102. Roles and Responsibilities
Session 2: Group Management
Roles and Responsibilities
In pairs or small groups identify what you believe to be the Role of a Ramsoc leader
In pairs or small groups identify what you believe to be the Responsibilities of a Ramsoc leader

103. Roles and Responsibilities
Session 2: Group Management
Roles and Responsibilities
The Role of a walk leader will vary depending on the situation they’re in
Typically roles will include
Information or Opinion giver
Motivator
Co-ordinator
Communication helper
Listener
Standard setter
Decision maker
Navigator

104. Roles and Responsibilities
Session 2: Group Management
Roles and Responsibilities
The Responsibilities of a walk leader should always be present
Your responsibilities as a Ramsoc walk leader will include:
Setting Standards
Ensuring the safety and well being of the group
Route planning
Encourage group cohesion
Teach skills
Get your group from A to B
Adapt to different situations
Maximising your groups enjoyment

105. Roles and Responsibilities
Session 2: Group Management
Roles and Responsibilities
As a walk leader you also have a responsibility to different groups of people
To Ramsoc
To the Group
To Individual group members
To Yourself
To the Public (Other walkers, Farmers etc.)
To the Land

106. Leadership Styles / Techniques
Session 2: Group Management
Leadership Styles / Techniques
Leadership Styles
Three main types of leadership:
Autocratic
Democratic
Subconscious control
All three may be useful, but will probably be needed at different times
As well as the two main types of Leadership there are many different leadership characteristics

107. Leadership Styles / Techniques
Session 2: Group Management
Leadership Styles / Techniques
Leadership Characteristics
What Leadership Characteristics can you come up with?

108. Leadership Styles / Techniques
Session 2: Group Management
Leadership Styles / Techniques
Leadership Characteristics
Consensus / Delegative
Authoritative
Stoic
Motivational
Inspirational
Performance driven
Task Orientated
Confident
Compassionate
A listener
Supportive
Behaviour orientated
And many more
Typically some of these are more likely to be gender specific although this is not always the case

109. Leadership Styles / Techniques
Session 2: Group Management
Leadership Styles / Techniques
Leadership Techniques
Authoritative
Consensus
Vote

110. Leadership Styles / Techniques
Session 2: Group Management
Leadership Styles / Techniques
Leadership Techniques
Communication:
Effective communication is very important as a leader
It is important to be clear and concise when talking to the whole group
Equally a good leader should feel at home talking to individuals as they do talking to a group
Different tones of voice can be a useful tool in different situations, e.g. happy, serious, motivational, persuasive

111. Leadership Styles / Techniques
Session 2: Group Management
Leadership Styles / Techniques
Leadership Techniques
Body language:
As important as verbal communication is body language
Body language can be very expressive
Body language is often subconscious
People will more often than not pick up and believe your body language more than they will your voice
It is important to remember this especially in instances were you are unsure or uncomfortable with a situation
It is also a useful tool to be able to read others body language

112. Leadership Styles / Techniques
Session 2: Group Management
Leadership Styles / Techniques
We will now give you a variety of different scenarios
What leadership technique or style would be best to use in each scenario
As a leader how would you communicate with your group / individual
Can you identify where any problems might arise as a leader

113. Session 2: Group Management
Conflict Management
What is Conflict Management?
Conflict Management is the way in which a leader deals with problems that arise either between another leader and themselves or within individual members of the group.
How do conflicts arise?
People are more likely to experience conflict when they are; tired, experiencing extremes in temperature or are hungry
Conflicts may arise if there is a disagreement over the choice of route
If two or more people have a clash in personality
And ultimately conflict can occur from out of nowhere and over some of the most trivial things

114. Session 2: Group Management
Conflict Management
What techniques can be used to manage it?
Communication
Vote
Taking time out
Removing someone form the group temporarily
Tackling the route cause of the conflict
Identifying different solutions
Being diplomatic
Explore different avenues and different possibilities
Ultimately prevention is better than cure!

115. Strengths and Weaknesses as Leaders
Session 2: Group Management
Strengths and Weaknesses as Leaders
In pairs or small groups discuss
What strengths would you expect to find in a good leader?
2. What weaknesses may a leader have?
3. Which of your strengths do you think will make you a good leader?
4. Which of your weaknesses will you need to overcome to be a good leader?

116. Environmental and Human Hazards
Session 2: Group Management
Environmental and Human Hazards
In pairs or small groups identify
Human Hazards likely to be encountered on the hill
Physical Hazards likely to be encountered on the hill

117. Coping with emergency situations
Session 2: Group Management
Coping with emergency situations
Firstly it is important to remember that emergency’s are very rare
But in the event that one does happen it is important you know how to deal with it
We provide all our trainees with an Accident Procedure flow chart and an Evacuation Plan flow chart

118. Coping with emergency situations
Session 2: Group Management
Coping with emergency situations
It is important that in an emergency you:
Assess the situation and risk
Assess the human and physical resources available
Create a plan of action
Allocate roles
Use correct Ramsoc procedures

119. Coping with emergency situations
Session 2: Group Management
Coping with emergency situations
Be Familiar and confident with
Choosing the appropriate leadership style
Knowing which leader does what
And know the Accident Response and Evacuation flow charts

120. Coping with emergency situations
Session 2: Group Management
Coping with emergency situations
Club procedures and Mountain Rescue
Ethos in Hill walking and Mountaineering of self sufficiency
Club will call out MR after 1hr and 10mins for every hour the walk was expected to take
If you believe the walk will be late alert the Ramblesec
MR will take a long time to get to you, if you believe it is possible to deal with the situation on your own it is best to do so

121. Coping with emergency situations
Session 2: Group Management
Coping with emergency situations
Club procedures and Mountain Rescue
To contact Mountain Rescue –
Diall 999
Ask for the Police
Be prepared to give; Your name, Phone number, Precise location, number and condition of group and available equipment
Do not move from that position unless asked to do so by MR or you are forced to do so for safety reasons, if you do have to move tell MR

122. Coping with emergency situations
Session 2: Group Management
Coping with emergency situations
Summary
Safety first – your own, the group’s, the casualty
Assess the situation and neutralise the danger
Initial plan of action
First aid &/or go for help
Group management issues
Get information
Secondary plan of action
Evacuation
Mountain Rescue

123. Coping with emergency situations
Session 2: Group Management
Coping with emergency situations
Whilst you should now be fully aware
of your responsibilities Ramsoc only expects that you do your best.

124. Session 2: Group Management
Any Questions?
Thank You for your participation and we look forward to seeing you Sunday