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1 Snoqualmie Community Center

2 Historic Community Center

3 History In 1918, the Snoqualmie Falls Lumber Company provided a community hall. The original community hall was a one story bunkhouse type building. The building provided rooms for meetings, social interaction and educational opportunities plans for a new community hall 1930 community hall burned and was replaced with a new building 1971 community hall was officially closed

4 Original design without pool

5 Original design with pool

6 Known Facts Bond failed twice, once in 2002 and in 2006 Bond failed twice, once in 2002 and in million dollars in mitigation funds from developer for Community Center 3-million dollars in mitigation funds from developer for Community Center $800,000 of REET money set aside for the development of the Community Center $800,000 of REET money set aside for the development of the Community Center In 2006, survey was distributed to the community on what they wanted in a community center In 2006, survey was distributed to the community on what they wanted in a community center Swimming pool is a major factor to some of the residents Swimming pool is a major factor to some of the residents Property set aside for the community center at Snoqualmie Community Park Property set aside for the community center at Snoqualmie Community Park School District wanting to go for a $189-million dollar bond School District wanting to go for a $189-million dollar bond City wants to construct a new City Hall using most available City funding sources City wants to construct a new City Hall using most available City funding sources Community wants a community center built Community wants a community center built Community Center partnership survey completed by Ballard and King in 2007 Community Center partnership survey completed by Ballard and King in 2007

7 What is the vision of the Community Center? 2002 This community Center will be a symbol of Snoqualmie’s tenacity and success during the past 100 years, and of our commitment to provide strong healthy recreational and social opportunities for our children. It will serve as a place to bind old and new together, and it will be our common living room, hearth and swimming hole.

8 What are the expectations of the council?

9 What are the expectations of the community? Developers promised Developers promised Property was donated for this purpose Property was donated for this purpose

10 Stakeholder groups and communities Joining upper/lower communities together School district Local non-profits ROA Surrounding cities and communities Possible partners

11 Potential Partners Encompass Encompass Snoqualmie Valley Youth Hub Snoqualmie Valley Youth Hub Si View Metro Park District Si View Metro Park District Northwest Center Northwest Center Snoqualmie Ridge Residential Owners Association Snoqualmie Ridge Residential Owners Association Mount Si Senior Center Mount Si Senior Center Greater Seattle YMCA Greater Seattle YMCA Unity Theater Unity Theater Snoqualmie Valley School District Snoqualmie Valley School District Boys & Girls Clubs of King county Boys & Girls Clubs of King county

12 What Partners would need to participate Encompass Encompass The Center must be a gathering place for the community The Center must be a gathering place for the community Gym with an indoor track Gym with an indoor track Indoor Pool Indoor Pool Needs to be year round programming Needs to be year round programming Snoqualmie Valley youth hub Snoqualmie Valley youth hub Gymnasium space that is flexible for multiple uses Gymnasium space that is flexible for multiple uses Meeting Rooms Meeting Rooms Indoor Pool – not as strong of a need as other spaces Indoor Pool – not as strong of a need as other spaces Place for the community to congregate Place for the community to congregate Something for all ages Something for all ages Si View Metro Park District Si View Metro Park District The center should be built in phases based on what the community can afford and what can be passed at an election The center should be built in phases based on what the community can afford and what can be passed at an election Gymnasium Gymnasium Meeting rooms Meeting rooms Aerobics room Aerobics room Multipurpose rooms Multipurpose rooms

13 What Partners would need to participate continued Northwest Center Northwest Center Pool Pool Snoqualmie Ridge Residential Owners Association Snoqualmie Ridge Residential Owners Association Event Space Event Space Office Space Office Space Mt Si Senior Mt Si Senior Community rooms and classrooms Community rooms and classrooms Fitness area Fitness area Greater Seattle YMCA Greater Seattle YMCA Youth/Teen area Youth/Teen area Health and Fitness Health and Fitness Gymnasium Gymnasium Aquatics (emphasis on swim lessons and recreation swimming) Aquatics (emphasis on swim lessons and recreation swimming) Weight/cardio exercise area Teen Center Weight/cardio exercise area Teen Center Group exercise room Group exercise room Group cycling room Group cycling room Yoga studio Yoga studio Child care area Child care area Community meeting rooms Community meeting rooms

14 What Partners would need to participate continued Unity Theater Unity Theater A theater space with a raised stage that is able to seat at least 115 people. A theater space with a raised stage that is able to seat at least 115 people. Lobby area with space for concession operations Lobby area with space for concession operations Large storage area for props Large storage area for props Space that can be used for recitals and other events Space that can be used for recitals and other events Area for arts display Area for arts display Visual arts activities classrooms Visual arts activities classrooms Snoqualmie Valley School District Snoqualmie Valley School District Fitness Fitness Pool Pool Multipurpose rooms Multipurpose rooms Gymnasium Gymnasium Boys and girls clubs of King County Boys and girls clubs of King County Classrooms for education Classrooms for education computer lab computer lab gymnasium gymnasium arts space arts space Game room Game room Recording studio Recording studio Multi purpose space Multi purpose space

15 Trade offs Encompass Encompass would operate and collect most of the youth program revenue Encompass would operate and collect most of the youth program revenue Identity might be lost with Encompass in the same building Identity might be lost with Encompass in the same building Possible % of revenues from encompass youth programs Possible % of revenues from encompass youth programs Less expense on staff costs Less expense on staff costs Less control of youth programming Less control of youth programming Snoqualmie Youth Hub Youth Hub would operate and collect all revenues for youth programs Youth Hub would operate and collect all revenues for youth programs Less expense on staff costs Less expense on staff costs Expense on utilities? Expense on utilities? Lost control of youth programming Lost control of youth programming Si View Metro Park District Loss of all programming of center Loss of all programming of center Less staff costs Less staff costs Possibility of joining parks district Possibility of joining parks district Loss of identity Loss of identity Loss of revenue Loss of revenue

16 Trade offs continued Northwest Center Loss of all pool programming of the center Loss of all pool programming of the center Less staff cost Less staff cost Pay some subsidy to off set Northwest costs Pay some subsidy to off set Northwest costs Loss or revenue Loss or revenue Loss of some identity Loss of some identity Pay utility cost Pay utility cost Mt. Si Senior Center Loss of senior programming Loss of senior programming Less staff cost Less staff cost Loss of revenue Loss of revenue Free use of facility Free use of facilityYMCA Loss of all programming Loss of all programming No staff cost No staff cost Loss of identity Loss of identity Loss of all revenue Loss of all revenue Possible utility costs Possible utility costs

17 Trade offs continued Boys and Girls Club Loss of all programming Loss of all programming No staff cost No staff cost Loss of identity Loss of identity Loss of all revenue Loss of all revenue Possible utility costs Possible utility costs Unity Theater Possible utility costs Possible utility costs Addition to cultural/performing arts Addition to cultural/performing arts Possible revenues from arts events Possible revenues from arts events Snoqualmie Valley School District Revenue for use of facility Revenue for use of facility Would like minimal cost for use of facility Would like minimal cost for use of facility Possible higher education uses of facility Possible higher education uses of facility

18 Likelihood of creating partnership?

19 Pool Community Center

20 Features *Gym (2 gyms, 1 gym, elevated track) *Gym (2 gyms, 1 gym, elevated track) *Fitness room *Fitness room Aerobics room Aerobics room Meeting room Meeting room *Banquet room *Banquet room Day care room Day care room Locker room Locker room Teen room Teen room Senior adult room Senior adult room *Kitchen *Kitchen Pool Pool Racquetball courts Racquetball courts

21 Must Have? Like to Have? Gym Day care room Fitness Room Locker room Banquet Room Teen room Kitchen Aerobics room Meeting room Pool Racquetball courts Senior adult room

22 Highest value to the community Gym Gym Fitness room Fitness room Banquet room Banquet room Pool Pool

23 Pool Competitive PoolLeisure Pool Wave PoolLazy River

24 Pool continued Slides Both competitive/leisure pool one tank? Two tanks? Leisure wave pool Competitive pool does not collect as much revenue as a leisure pool

25 Location Community Park site Community Park site Other options Other options New community park site? New community park site? Any other sites in the development? Any other sites in the development?

26 Pool Would pool be phased and built with the community center Would pool be phased and built with the community center Community pool as a separate project Community pool as a separate project Would pool be included with Community Center and built as one complex at the same time Would pool be included with Community Center and built as one complex at the same time

27 Pool Acceptable subsidy to pay for pool. Acceptable subsidy to pay for pool. 70%, 60%, 50%, 40%, 30% ? 70%, 60%, 50%, 40%, 30% ? Community would like a pool but would they pay for it? Community would like a pool but would they pay for it?

28 Snoqualmie Community Center Estimated Costs BASE COMMUNITY CENTER 10,595 sq ft. Multi-use Gymnasium 7,000 sq ft. Gym Storage 300 sq ft. Administration 250 sq ft. Restrooms / Lockers 600 sq ft. Net to Gross (30%) 2,445 Building Costs $2,648,750 Site Costs $375,000 Estimated Construction Costs $3,023,750 Soft Costs (35%) $1,058,313 Estimated Project Costs $4,082,063 GREAT ROOM 3100 / sf subtotal Great Room 2,500 Catering Kitchen 400 Storage 200 Estimated Construction Costs $775,000 Soft Costs (35%) $271,250 Estimated Project Costs $1,046,250

29 Snoqualmie Community Center Estimated Costs DANCE / AEROBICS 100 / sf subtotal Estimated Construction Costs $250,000 Soft Costs (35%) $87,500 Estimated Project Costs $337,500 CARDIO / FITNESS 1500 / sf subtotal Estimated Construction Costs $375,000 Soft Costs (45%) $168,750 Estimated Project Costs $543,750 DROP-IN CHILD CARE 400/ sf subtotal Estimated Construction Costs $100,000 Soft Costs (35%) $35,000 Estimated Project Costs $135,000

30 Snoqualmie Community Center Estimated Costs CLASSROOM/MEETING 800 / sf subtotal Estimated Construction Costs $200,000 Soft Costs (35%) $70,000 Estimated Project Costs $270,000 ARTS / CRAFTS 1200 / sf subtotal Estimated Construction Costs $300,000 Soft Costs (35%) $105,000 Estimated Project Costs $405,000 LEISURE POOL W/ 3 LAP LANES 12,000 / sf subtotal Natatorium, Pool Mech, Lockers $3,600,000 Estimated Construction Costs $3,600,000 Soft Costs (35%) $1,260,000 Estimated Project Costs $4,860,000 PARTY ROOM 400 / sf subtotal Estimated Construction Costs $100,000 Soft Costs (35%) $35,000 Estimated Project Costs $135,000

31 Bring Community Center to a Vote? What will effect the vote School District Bond School District Bond Si View Parks District Si View Parks District Hospital Bond Measure Hospital Bond Measure

32 What would be the timeline for a vote? Spring Spring Fall Fall 2008, 2009, , 2009, 2010

33 Communication Strategy Community Center Communication Time line if vote is November 2008 April Decision of Community Center options Decision of Community Center options Line up architect of conceptual design Line up architect of conceptual design Assemble materials for conceptual Assemble materials for conceptual Workshop of options with the community Workshop of options with the community Partnership agreements establish Partnership agreements establish Involve partners if any on design concepts Involve partners if any on design conceptsMay Refine selected options Refine selected options Design refinement Design refinement Workshop two with community Workshop two with communityJune Public relations materials Public relations materials Produce materials Produce materials Educate public on conceptual and costs Educate public on conceptual and costs

34 Communication Strategy July Get campaign organized Get campaign organized File for community center bond File for community center bondAugust Prepare information for the public Prepare information for the public Campaign fliers and information to be mailed Campaign fliers and information to be mailed Campaign for community center at Snoqualmie Days Campaign for community center at Snoqualmie DaysSeptember Campaign for community center Campaign for community center Open forum about the community center/option/costs Open forum about the community center/option/costsOctober Campaign for community center citywide sweep Campaign for community center citywide sweepNovember Vote for bond Vote for bond

35 Roles in Communication/Bond Stakeholders Stakeholders City Council City Council Staff Staff Pro Bond Committee Pro Bond Committee


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