1. (A Bit Later than Adam & Eve)
RODERICK GENEALOGLY
(A Bit Later than Adam & Eve)

2. Frederick II Landgrave of Hesse-Cassel
Married to daughter of King George II of Great Britain and Caroline of Ansbach (Germany).

3. King George III

4. Duke Carl I – Duke of Brunswick

5. HESSIAN SOLDIERS

6. GERMAN STATES SENDING SOLDIERS
Hessen-Kassel: 17,000
Hessen-Hanau: ,600
Brunswick: 5,723
Waldeck: 1,225
Anhalt-Zerbst 1,119
Brandenburg-Anspach 1,040

7. HESSIAN SOLDIERS IN THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION

8. Modern Germany (16 States)
Many “Hessian” Soldiers came from Lower Saxony.

9. 1789 Germany

10. BUT WHAT ABOUT
FREDERICK RODERICK

11. 11 Questions to answer 1. Was Frederick Roderick a “Hessian Soldier”?
2. If a German soldier, from which province? Hesse-Kassel, Hesse-Hanau, Brunswick, Waldeck, Anspach-Bayreuth, or Anhalt-Zerbst.
3. If a German soldier, what was his German name?
4. Was Frederick a stonemason?
5. Was Frederick Roderick of German descent?
6. Did Frederick Roderick’s ship land on Staten Island near New York or elsewhere?
7. Did Frederick Roderick desert the British forces?
8. Did Frederick Roderick join Washington’s Army?
9. Did Frederick Roderick live in Charlottesville, Virginia?
10. The family history says that the German soldiers were “liberty-loving and decided to desert the English Army at the first opportunity and help win the independence of the American people by joining American forces.” Is there evidence that this was the case?
11. Was Frederick Roderick honorably discharged from the American Army?

12. DNA Analysis

13. Roderick vs. Rothrock DNA#
Kit
Last Name
H G
3 9 3
3 9 0
1 9
3 9 1
3 8 5 a
3 8 5 b
4 2 6
3 8 8
4 3 9
3 8 9 | 1
3 9 2
3 8 9 | 2
4 5 8
4 5 9 a
4 5 9 b
4 5 5
4 5 4
4 4 7
4 3 7
4 4 8
4 4 9
4 6 4 a
4 6 4 b
4 6 4 c
4 6 4 d
4 6 4 e
4 6 4 f
4 6 4 g
4 6 0
G A T A H 4
Y C A I I a
Y C A I I b
4 5 6
6 0 7
5 7 6
5 7 0
C D Y a
C D Y b
4 4 2
4 3 8
5 3 1
5 7 8
3 9 5 S 1 a
3 9 5 S 1 b
5 9 0
5 3 7
6 4 1
4 7 2
4 0 6 S 1
5 1 1
4 2 5
4 1 3 a
4 1 3 b
5 5 7
5 9 4
4 3 6
4 9 0
5 3 4
4 5 0
4 4 4
4 8 1
5 2 0
4 4 6
6 1 7
5 6 8
4 8 7
5 7 2
6 4 0
4 9 2
5 6 5
German 1
53278
Rothrock 
E1b1b1 12 24 13 11 15 19 30 2
130015
Hawk  9 26 14 20 33 16 17 3
149527
Roderick  21 32 34 10 4
69305
Roadruck 
R1b1b2 28 23 38 5
14507
I2b1 31 8 27 39
Roderick vs. Rothrock DNA
Roderick Haplogroup: I2b1
Rothrock Haplogroup: E1b1b1
Matches = 3 of 12 – means there is no relationship

14. Frequency Distribution of Haplogroup I2b1
The center of haplogroup I2b1 is in Lower Saxony, Germany. The originator of this group must have lived in this area for a long time as so many members live here; perhaps Frederick Roderick.

15. The Viking (800 to 1066 A.D.)
DYS# 390 = 23

16. HEDEBY, GERMANY – VIKING CITY

18. Northern Germany, Denmark, & Netherlands

19. MAP OF LOWER SAXONY AREA

20. LOWER SAXONY

21. COUNTIES OF LOWER SAXONY

22. 3,000 YEAR OLD SKULL FROM LICHTENSTEIN CAVE – I2b2 (Dorste, Lower Saxony, Germany)

23. Manfred Huchthausen and Uwe Lange, neighbors – closely related to each other and the skull.

24. GERMAN STONEMASONS
Lower Saxony known as “Stonemason State”
Apprentices only accepted for 5 years.
Fathers (masons) can bind sons for 5 years.
Masters accept or declare apprentices “free”.
All done in presence of the lodge.
Frederick had to be 19 years or older in 1776.

25. WAS THERE A QUARRY IN LOWER SAXONY, GERMANY?

26. Yes there is! Obernkirchen, Lower Saxony

27. “As one of the world's oldest active quarries, we have been supplying to projects throughout all of Europe and beyond for 1,000 years. Throughout this period, well-known master builders and architects have used our sandstone to create impressive edifices.
In former times, the raw blocks were mostly quarried and hewn in one step. Initially, the master stonemasons and their assistants used muscle power and the simplest tools to break the blocks. Back then, as many as 27 master stonemasons quarried at the same time.

28. Are Brunswick, Obernkirchen, and Dorste Close to Each other?

29. Obernkirchen Quarry near Hameln—Braunschweig is “Brunswick” (Duke lived There) The Lichtenstein Cave is Near Osterode (30 miles from Hameln)

30. MODERN EUROPE

31. (SUGGESTED) HISTORY – MIGRATION OF MANKIND (Europe 50,000 years ago)

33. ICE AGE – 18,000 YEARS AGO

34. DOGGERLAND – 8,000 to 10,000 years ago

36. Haplogroups During Ice Age (18,000 years ago)

38. European Haplogroup Migration – After Ice Age (12,000 years ago)

39. Estimated TMRCAs for Y Haplogroup I Clades
M26 – I2a years
L161 – Isles-A years
L161 – Isles-B years
L161 – Isles-C years
L161 – Isles-D years
L69=T – Dinaric years
L233 – Western years
M253 - ASgen years
M253 - P years
M253 – T years
M253 – AS years
M253 - AS years
M253 – AS years
M253 – AS years
M253 – AS years
M253 – AS years
M253 – AS7E years
M253 – EE years
L22 - Norse years
L22 – NuN years
P years
L22 – uN years
L22– uN years
L22 – uN years
L22 – uN9a years
L22 – Bothnia years
M223 – I2b1* -- Roots years
M Continental years
M Continental-2a years
M223 – Continental-2b years
M223 – Continental-2c years
P78 – Continental years
M284 – Isles – Eng years
M284 S165 – Isles – Scot Years
L I2b2 – 4100 years
S31(all) – I2* years
S years
S years
S years
S31-J years
K Nordtvedt 1 May 2010

40. Rescaled Haplogroup I Tree
K Nordtvedt 4 Dec 2009
Generations = 16 GD { GD GD^2 }
due to back mutations
Green snps are very new and work products
Rescaled Haplogroup I Tree
I2a2a-Disles
L178
M423
S163=L69=T
I2a2a-Dinaric
L161
I2a2b-Isles-B
I2a2b-Isles-A
I2a2b-Isles-D
I2a2b-Isles-C
P37.2
DYS388=9
I2a*-F
L233
I2a3-Western
M26 L158 L159
I2a*-Alps
I2a1
Estimated
Present
L160
I2a1a
I2*-B
L68=S140
I2*-C
P215=S31
I2*-A
L38-40,65 = S ,159
I2b2
S23=P217 S30=P216
S32=P218 S33=P214
S150=L35 S153=L37
L181
I2b1a*-Isles-English
M284
S165,166
I2b1a1-Isles-Scot
I2b1-Roots
L34,36,59=S151,152,157
M223, S24
P = S
P78
I2b1c-Cont
I2b1-Cont
P30 P40 M253 M307 S62-66 S , L157, L lots more
L234, L242 I1
I1d
Arrowheads indicate clade MRCAs
S142=L22
L205, P109
L258
-24,000
-18,000
-12,000
-6000
Years Ago
800
600
400
200
Generations Ago

42. What About the 11 Questions?

43. 11 Questions to answer 1. Was Frederick Roderick a “Hessian Soldier”?
2. If a German soldier, from which province? Hesse-Kassel, Hesse-Hanau, Brunswick, Waldeck, Anspach-Bayreuth, or Anhalt-Zerbst.
3. If a German soldier, what was his German name?
4. Was Frederick a stonemason?
5. Was Frederick Roderick of German descent?
6. Did Frederick Roderick’s ship land on Staten Island near New York or elsewhere?
7. Did Frederick Roderick desert the British forces?
8. Did Frederick Roderick join Washington’s Army?
9. Did Frederick Roderick live in Charlottesville, Virginia?
10. The family history says that the German soldiers were “liberty-loving and decided to desert the English Army at the first opportunity and help win the independence of the American people by joining American forces.” Is there evidence that this was the case?
11. Was Frederick Roderick honorably discharged from the American Army?