1. Getting Real! Zoë Reed Co-production, Time Banking and Mental Health 14 th March 2007

2. Getting Started Initial post joint funded SLaM charity + Lewisham Council + NEF [with time] Concept was to establish time banks within SLaM But service users said no!

3. The original idea Run Trust’s day services as time banks Introduce co-production concepts into community mental health teams Establish an organisation-wide time bank for the organisation to “pay back” for the work undertaken by volunteers via “no cost” items like room use, emails, typing Get real!

4. Working from the outside worked with community groups, churches, credit unions Supported networks of time banks in two boroughs Working from the inside Posts, facilities, co-ordination Raised the concepts at every opportunity CE + Directors met Edgar! Used internal bulletins and meetings Partnership Time Events Co-production, Time Banking and Mental Health 14th March 2007

5. Where are we now Increasing the use of co-production in services through the Maudsley Time Bank Services “play back” that the way forward for social inclusion is via time banking Co-production is a term used more generally but in mental health services means clinician and service user working together to produce the best of mental health and wellbeing for the service user.

6. Lessons - development worker risk averse public sector makes it very hard to respond quickly to changing circumstances Lack of understanding of one another's cultures and priorities Lessons from me Once leaders “get” co- production they can be over ambitious! Co-production and time banking are slippery concepts – they don’t cascade well But keep trying different routes and progress can be made! Co-production, Time Banking and Mental Health 14th March 2007