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War of the Forecasts: Model vs Project Dan Thomas, P.E. NCDOT - Transportation Planning Branch March 6, 2008 Tennessee Model Users Group.

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1 War of the Forecasts: Model vs Project Dan Thomas, P.E. NCDOT - Transportation Planning Branch March 6, 2008 Tennessee Model Users Group

2 Outline Planning in North Carolina Modeling in North Carolina –Past –Present –Future Role of consultants

3 Outline Project level forecasting –Evolution –Process - handling –Procedure - technical Lessons learned Role of consultants

4 Transportation Planning 78,000 miles of roads Responsible for project forecasts 17 MPOs –3 Regional models (9 MPOs) –8 Individual models

5 Transportation Planning 20 RPOs –Small Urban Plans –County Plans Transportation Planning Branch Organization Mountains TES III Metrolina TES III Triad TES III Western Traffic Forecast TES III Triangle TES III Southeast TES III Northeast TES III Eastern Traffic Forecast TES III Model TES III Systems TES III Traffic Survey TES III Research & Development TEM I Western Unit TEM I Eastern Unit TEM I Technical Services TEM I Branch Manager TED I Staff Engineer TSE III Admin Officer Admin Staff Admin Staff Admin Staff Asheville MPO TE III Hickory MPO TE II CTP Studies TE II CTP Studies TE I CTP Studies TE I Mecklenburg- Union MPO TE III Cabarrus- Rowan MPO TE II Gaston MPO TE II CTP Studies TE II CTP Studies TE II CTP Studies TE I CTP Studies TE I Asheville MPO TE III Asheville MPO TE III Hickory MPO TE II Hickory MPO TE II Hickory MPO TE II CTP Studies TE I Traffic Forecasting TE II Traffic Forecasting TE II Traffic Forecasting TE I Traffic Forecasting TE I Traffic Forecasting TE I Traffic Forecasting TFM I Capital Area MPO TE III Durham-Ch.Hill- Carrboro MPO TE III CTP Studies TE II CTP Studies TE II CTP Studies TE I CTP Studies TE I Technician TT III Fayetteville MPO TE III Wilmington MPO TE II Jacksonville MPO TE II Goldsboro MPO TE II CTP Studies TE I CTP Studies TE I CTP Studies TE I MPO/RPO TE III Rocky Mount MPO TE II Greenville MPO TE II CTP Studies TE II CTP Studies TE I Technician TT II CTP Studies TE I Traffic Forecasting TE II Traffic Forecasting TE I Traffic Forecasting TE I Traffic Forecasting TE I Traffic Forecasting TFM I Traffic Forecasting TE I Triad Regional Modeler TE III Triangle Regional Modeler TE III Metrolina Regional Modeler TE III Model Research & Training TE III Modeling Applications TE II Modeling Applications TE II State Traffic Forecast Eng. TE III Operational Strategies Eng TE III AQ Specialist TE III AQ Specialist TE III CTP Studies TE II CTP Studies TE I See TSU Org Chart Admin Staff Research Engineer. TE III Research Engineer TE III Research Staff Engineer TE II Research Staff Engineer TE II Research Technician TT IV Librarian

6 Travel Demand Modeling The Past 70’s - 80’s –NCDOT - model expert –MPO - land use expert –TranPlan Into the 90’s –CHANGE WAS A COMIN’

7 Changing Times Nationally ISTEA –more requirements –regular updates Air Quality conformity Travel demand modeling

8 Changing Times North Carolina Planning staff spread thin Project level traffic forecasts High growth Staff turnover…and over…and over

9 Travel Demand Modeling The Past Our models became stagnate –100% S-E data survey –model drives planning schedule –1st Regional model –1 MPO had model that NCDOT could not use –Travel Model Improvement Program

10 Travel Demand Modeling The Present TransCAD Different types of models –regional models –4-step (minus mode split) models –hand allocation and trend line

11 Travel Demand Modeling The Future Different tool for different needs –regional models –standard 4-step models –quick response (under development) –manual allocation –trend line

12 Forecasts Model vs Project WHAT’S THE PROBLEM? & (WHY) DO WE CARE?

13 Project Level Traffic Forecast Evolution

14 Project Level Traffic Forecast Process Request is made Communicate with Requestor Official Review Distribution

15 Request is Made Tracking –status –assignment Coordinate with Groups –review work load –analysis tool (model) –project history

16 Request is Made Assignment –Planning Group –Forecasting Group –Consultant

17 Project Level Traffic Forecast Process Request is made Communicate with Requestor Official Review Distribution

18 Communicate with Requestor State Traffic Forecast Engineer Forecaster –bridge project 5 months –simple widening 6 months –major widening/new location > 6 months

19 Project Level Traffic Forecast Process Request is made Communicate with Requestor Official Review Distribution

20 Official Review Internal State Traffic Forecast Engineer AND Forecast Group to Planning Group OR Planning Group to Forecast Group

21 Official Review Private Engineering Firm State Traffic Forecast Engineer AND Forecast Group AND Planning Group

22 Project Level Traffic Forecast Process Request is made Communicate with Requestor Official Review Distribution

23 Requestor Highway Design Project Development and Environmental Planning Traffic Engineering etc...

24 Project Level Traffic Forecast Procedure Analysis tools and data Scenarios Documentation Resolution of Issues

25 Analysis Tools Traffic Forecast Utility –straight line –simple interest

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27 Analysis Tools Travel Demand Model (beware of mixing model output)

28 Project Level Traffic Forecast Procedure Analysis tools and data Scenarios Documentation Resolution of Issues

29 Scenarios Base year no-build * Base year build Future year no-build Future year build * Other alternatives * Required Scenario

30 Project Level Traffic Forecast Procedure Analysis tools and data Scenarios Documentation Resolution of Issues

31 Documentation If the goal were inconsistency - we would win the gold! Planning Group - random Forecast Group - better - standard outline Consultants - good - establishing expectations and standards

32 Project Level Traffic Forecast Procedure Analysis tools and data Scenarios Documentation Resolution of Issues

33 State Traffic Forecast Engineer

34 Model vs Project Why are they different? –assumptions –outputs –use Who cares? –public

35 Model vs Project What can we do? –better labeling/education –documentation How is NCDOT doing? –getting better and heading in the right direction

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37 Model & Project - Forecasts at Peace Dan Thomas, P.E. NCDOT - Transportation Planning Branch 919-715-5482 ext. 389 danthomas@dot.state.nc.us


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