PEO’s Engineering Intern Program Experience Requirements PEO’s Engineering Internship Training (EIT) program fills the gap between knowledge provided in engineering school and skills required for practice Manoj Choudhary, M.Eng., P.Eng.

Objectives Role of PEO Enforcement vs. Discipline Licensing Requirements CEAB Graduates International Engineering Graduates (IEG) Engineering Experience Benefits of Engineering Intern Program

Practice of Engineering Any act of designing, composing, evaluating, advising, reporting, directing or supervising; Wherein the safeguarding of life, health, property or the public welfare is concerned; That requires the application of engineering principles (does not include practicing as a natural scientist).

PEO’s Role & Function Who - self regulating body for P. Engs. What - regulate and set standards Where - across the province of Ontario When - 1922 right to title; 1932 right to practice Why - Public safety and welfare How - Admissions, discipline and enforcement

Enforcement Unit Enforcement v. Discipline ENFORCEMENT - Concerned with practice of professional engineering by non-engineers, improper use of engineering titles by non-engineers, and unauthorized independent practice by engineers without a C of A. DISCIPLINE – Handles complaints against licensed engineers for incompetence, negligence, or professional misconduct. Together, Enforcement, Discipline & Appeals form REGULATORY COMPLIANCE

Enforcement Unit Employer relations & use of titles The purpose of title protection is to make it clear who is a licensed engineer. Improper use of “engineer” in job title can be confusing. Be polite. Explain why you can’t call yourself an engineer yet. Get in touch with us. We will happy to explain it to your employer. Routine inquiries are welcome. It’s a Hotline (direct connection) not an emergency line. Note that we can’t always act on anonymous tips: “Law is about proof, not truth” 1. Engineer called to say there was a big advertising sign saying “engineers” on the highway. Luckily, there was a picture of it on their web site so we could take action. 2. Engineer called to say he had heard a potential client was not using a C of A holder to do engineering work. Very little we could do without corroboration. 3. I got an e-mail about a conversation about a letter with the title “consulting engineer”. If true, it was a clear violation, but there was little I could do about it. But, it was triple hearsay.

Licensing Requirements Acceptable engineering education; Professional Practice Examination; Good character (i.e. no criminal record); References (all supervisors & a minimum of one P.Eng.); 48 months acceptable engineering experience (12 months must be within a Canadian jurisdiction)

PEO Licensure Flow Diagram Professional Practice Exam Mandatory for all Applicants – no exceptions Experience Assessment After completion of a minimum of 48 months of work experience 2 year limit to attempt PPE More Experience Required Failure To attempt PPE Within Time limit Or pass within 3 attempts Exams waived Optional Staff Referral Interview or Not waived Pass Acceptable Experience Fail

Professional Practice Examination 3 hours total - Part A (Ethics), Part B (Law) 4 essay-style questions per section, similar structure each time Exam samples available for purchase from PEO April, August & December sittings Locations throughout Ontario & embassies around the world

Engineering Experience 5 Required Elements: Application of Theory Practical Experience Management of Engineering Communication Skills Social Implications of Engineering

Application of Theory Refer to specific engineering principles/theory What options are available to you? What important parameters did you consider? Why is the selected method appropriate under the circumstances?

Practical Experience What considerations did you have to make due to real world conditions? What codes and standards did you use as part of your engineering work? Why was it necessary to refer to these – what is the basis for these? How did limitations of time, material, personnel, etc. affect your engineering work?

Management of Engineering These are the business aspects of engineering, such as: Planning; Scheduling; Budgeting How do these concepts fit into the engineering work that you do? Are you responsible for controlling any of these that affect other members of the team? Have your responsibilities increased in this area? How?

Communication Skills How do you report your work? Any written reports? Who receives these? Opportunities for presentations? Participation in meetings? Any examples of having to promote your engineering ideas through a reporting mechanism? What was the result?

Social Implications of Engineering What are the potential effects, both positive and negative, of the engineering project? How are negative effects mitigated? Who are the end users of the engineering work? Were they consulted on the project? How? What involvement have you had in the process?

Pre-Graduation Experience Eligible for up to 12 months credit; After completing 50 % of course work Not eligible for the required 12 months of Canadian jurisdictional experience PEO Policy Related to course and career; Assessed after 12 months post-graduate experience. To ease the pain of the change to 48 months we will allow you a credit of up to 12 months for pre-graduation experience. There are a few caveats with this experience: It must have been obtained after you had completed at least 50 per cent of your courses; and Must be seen as a stepping stone to your professional development. If you provided technical support for someone’s software network for two summers and are now working as a civil design engineer we could not count that pre-graduation experience. We can’t judge the acceptability of your pre-graduation experience until we have some post graduation work experience to review. One graduate in environmental engineering had worked for a consulting firm gathering samples and then doing some preliminary analysis during her work terms. Upon graduation she joined that firm and is building on that experience and is performing groundwater flow analysis based on the samples that others are taking under her direction. These are samples of two extremes. Most fall in the middle and require more review by us. You can get a guide to the Pre-Graduation experience from our Web site. I have a few available here today.

Engineering Master’s or PhD PEO Policy Completed degrees - 12 months experience Same discipline or closely related to your bachelor of engineering degree Only one degree applies Not eligible for the required 12 months of Canadian jurisdictional experience

Applied Research Industry supported: Company requests and sponsors research; Company must have immediate practical use for the research; and P. Eng. from company must be a referee; Only time worked at company location under supervision of P.Eng. Referee can be credited. Can count for 12 months of Canadian engineering experience

Experience Assessment Tools Required: Summary of experience provided by the candidate (may also include earlier EIT reviews/guidance and subsequent response by candidate) Referees’ evaluations covering all reported time periods (may also include follow-up discussions with referees) Optional: ERC and/or Staff referral interviews (if items 1 or 2 above are not satisfactory or complete)

Example of Experience Layout Name & Location of Employer From (MM/YY) To Number Months ABC, Toronto , ON, Canada 02-2004 04-2007 39 (at least 12 required) XYZ, UK, London 08-1995 12-2001 77 (only 36 will be allowable) Master at MNL, University 01-1994 07-1995 19 (only 12 will be allowable)

Engineering Experience Record Not a Resume; Include specific engineering work that you performed; Explain the nature of problems you solved; Identify design/analysis factors you considered;

Referee Requirements Minimum legal requirement: one P. Eng. supervisor for one year* Ideal goal: one direct P. Eng. supervisor plus another P. Eng. familiar with your work, per place of employment, over the entire 48 months. Supervisors must be sufficiently familiar with the details of the candidate’s work *Note: If this is all that is provided, an experience interview will be arranged.

Cross-Discipline PEO’s Concern: Work experience is not in compliance with educational background Must provide us with evidence of educational courses or training to bridge the gap between your educational background and the work undertaken

Sales, Marketing and Patent Activities PEO’s Concern: Little or no requirement for engineering expertise and/or opportunity to practice engineering training autonomously Must provide us with specific examples of hands-on involvement and contribution to solving the clients problems Describe to us your engineering thought processes, rather than simply promoting employers’ equipment/products

Project Management and Supervision PEO’s Concern: business role not requiring engineering training The Candidate should demonstrate through specific examples that his/ her role includes solving engineering technical problems that the subordinates are not able to, instead of delegating all technical problems

Quality Engineering Experience PEO Concern: Inspections/testing/ for verification purposes only, is technician level Must demonstrate involvement with process design modifications as a result of findings of non-conformances, including the application of engineering analysis or calculations

Licensure Unit Assessment Tools: Summary of experience presented by the candidate Referees’ Evaluations and interaction with referees ERC interviews (ARC and/or Staff referrals)

Licensure Unit Referee Requirements: All direct supervisors Minimum legal requirement: one P. Eng. supervisor for one year* Ideal goal: one direct P. Eng. supervisor plus another P. Eng. familiar with your work, per place of employment, over the entire 48 months. *If this is all that is provided, an experience interview will be arranged.

Licensure Unit Professional Engineers who serve as Supervisors or Referees are expected to: Provide guidance, encouragement and support to the candidate Be familiar with the candidate’s work through direct supervision or ongoing contact Be able to attest that the work experience qualifies within the five established criteria Confirm that 48 months of experience as well as other P. Eng. requirements are met

Licensure Unit Staff Referrals: Cross-discipline candidates Sales Representatives Supervision and coordination Project management including Planning, Scheduling and Cost Estimation Technician-level work including inspection and testing for verification purposes only (QA/QC) Teaching/Research without industrial application

EIT Program Use of EIT title (serious about licensing); Inclusion in PEO members directory; Met academic qualifications; Review of work experience; Individual guidance; Engineering Dimensions; Participate in local Chapters; Eligible to join OSPE and take advantage of their Career Centre & other member services (insurance and investment plans)

Financial Credit Program (FCP) CEAB Graduate Students PEO will waive Lic. Application fee FREE EIT Membership – First Year Must apply on-line within six months of Grad. www.peo.on.ca/FCP/FCP1.html

EIT Program Information Manoj Choudhary, P.Eng. Manager, Pre-Licensing Programs mchoudhary@peo.on.ca www.peo.on.ca