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1 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO

2 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO

3 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Passport to P. Eng. Welcome to...

4 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Passport to P. Eng. For Engineers on their Path on their Path to the Profession to the Profession (Canadian and Internationally Trained, including E.I.T.s) (Canadian and Internationally Trained, including E.I.T.s)

5 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Hosted by the Hamilton-Burlington Chapter Professional Engineers Ontario Burlington Art Centre 1333 Lakeshore Road, Burlington Thursday, May 27, 2010 5:30 P.M. to 8:00 P.M. The Hamilton-Burlington Chapter is presenting its fourth informal evening as part of its initiative to ease the task of engineers, particularly internationally trained engineers, wishing to obtain a licence to practice in Ontario. Prospective Professional Engineers are welcome to attend. Attendees should be graduates of an Engineering discipline from a university or equivalent. The Hamilton-Burlington Chapter is presenting its fourth informal evening as part of its initiative to ease the task of engineers, particularly internationally trained engineers, wishing to obtain a licence to practice in Ontario. Prospective Professional Engineers are welcome to attend. Attendees should be graduates of an Engineering discipline from a university or equivalent. The program includes Membership Requirements Overview, Perspectives from Canadian and Internationally Trained Engineers & EITs, Resources, Common & Specific Questions, and Round Table discussions with our Chapter Members.

6 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Passport to P. Eng. – Agenda 6:00 – 7:00Welcome and Introductions Membership Requirements Overview Canadian Trained Perspective Internationally Trained Perspective EIT Perspective Mentorship Path to P. Eng 7:00 – 7:45Round Table Discussions - Mentorship [Table 1] - Experience Requirements [Table 2] - Professional Practice Exam [Table 3] - Internationally Trained Engineers [Table 4] 7:45 – 8:00Summary & Closing Remarks

7 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Welcome and Introductions Hamilton-Burlington Chapter Board and Executive members Your hosts are: Raj Jain, P. Eng. Bob Loree, P. Eng. Web site Contacts

8 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Passport to P. Eng. – Agenda 6:00 – 7:00Welcome and Introductions Membership Requirements Overview Canadian Trained Perspective Internationally Trained Perspective EIT Perspective Mentorship Path to P. Eng 7:00 – 7:45Round Table Discussions - Mentorship [Table 1] - Experience Requirements [Table 2] - Professional Practice Exam [Table 3] - Internationally Trained Engineers [Table 4] 7:45 – 8:00Summary & Closing Remarks

9 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Membership Requirements - Overview Overview of the process for licensing: 1. Follow the steps, outlines, guidelines 2. Get a coach, advocate, mentor 3. KEEP RECORDS WITH NOTES, NAMES, DATES 4. Talk with friends 5. Establish a network for support Overview of the process for licensing: 1. Follow the steps, outlines, guidelines 2. Get a coach, advocate, mentor 3. KEEP RECORDS WITH NOTES, NAMES, DATES 4. Talk with friends 5. Establish a network for support

10 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Membership Requirements - Canada Engineers Canada is the national organization of the 12 provincial and territorial associations that regulate the practice of engineering in Canada and license the country's more than 160,000 professional engineers. Canada

11 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Membership Requirements - Ontario PEO: Role & Function - a self-regulating body for Professional Engineers - to regulate and set standards - for the province of Ontario -To serve and protect the public interest [ Public safety and welfare ] [ Public safety and welfare ] - through Admissions (the right to practice), Discipline and Enforcement PEO

12 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Membership Requirements - Definition Practice of Professional Engineering Any act of designing, composing, evaluating, advising, reporting, directing or supervising; wherein the safeguarding of life, health, property or the public welfare is concerned; that requires the application of engineering principles (does not include practicing as a natural scientist).

13 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Membership Requirements - Licensing Licensing Requirements Acceptable engineering education Acceptable engineering education Professional Practice ExaminationProfessional Practice Examination Good characterGood character ReferencesReferences 48 months engineering experience48 months engineering experience 12 months of acceptable engineering experience in Canada12 months of acceptable engineering experience in Canada Requirements

14 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Membership Requirements - Steps Licensing Steps Process

15 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Membership Requirements - note In order to submit an application form and begin the licensing process you only need to meet PEO’s minimum education requirements. All other licensing requirements can be met after you submit an application All other licensing requirements can be met after you submit an application

16 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Membership Requirements – Application Attachments Attachments (Section 11 – then pages 4 & 9) Transcripts & Diplomas Course descriptions Record of landing or Canadian Citizenship Engineering Experience summary (see Guide) Forms

17 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Membership Requirements - Education Education Requirements CEAB graduates No technical examinations – only PPE Non- CEAB Engineering programs Confirmatory Examination Program + PPE Other education Specific Examination Program + PPE Education CEAB CEAB - PEO

18 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Membership Requirements If you do not have an undergraduate degree in engineering from a program accredited by the CEAB, your academic background will be assessed by PEO to determine whether it is equivalent to the established standards. If you do not have an undergraduate degree in engineering from a program accredited by the CEAB, your academic background will be assessed by PEO to determine whether it is equivalent to the established standards. Education

19 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Membership Requirements - Education PEO will assign technical exams to give you an opportunity to confirm that your academic preparation is equivalent (Confirmatory Examination Program) or to remedy any identified deficiencies to remedy any identified deficiencies (Specific Examination Program) (Specific Examination Program) Education Technical

20 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Membership Requirements – Education notes Applicants should be comfortable and confident with the application and process. 1. Spend time on the PEO web site examining their documents to determine exactly what is required of you

21 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Membership Requirements – Education notes 2. Be proactive with respect to academic and experience requirements: (a) carefully document all components yourself (b) avoid simply turning over your files & allowing someone else to decide what you learned and experienced

22 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Membership Requirements – Education notes 3. If your Academic Requirements are not “CEAB approved” (a) demonstrate that you have satisfied the academic requirements (b) compare with an accredited Canadian program similar to yours - course by course, topic by topic

23 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Membership Requirements – Education notes (c) note everything you completed plus any additional work, courses, projects with respect to CEAB (d) note equivalency and extras in your courses and programs (e) put in a table if possible – make it easy for someone to evaluate your program

24 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Membership Requirements – Education notes 4. Your goal is to avoid extra exams in topics and courses you have successfully completed 4. Your goal is to avoid extra exams in topics and courses you have successfully completed

25 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Membership Requirements - PPE Professional Practice Exam (PPE) A 3-hour, closed-book exam on ethics, professional practice, engineering law and liability, written after Education Requirements are met. Applicants may seek additional resources on the internet using their preferred search engine using: professional practice exam professional practice exam PEO PPE PEO PPE PPE

26 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Membership Requirements - Experience Experience Requirements The 5 Required Elements are: Application of theory Practical experience Management of engineering Communication skills Social implications of engineering Guide

27 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Membership Requirements - Experience Pre-Graduation Experience Pre-Grad

28 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Membership Requirements – Experience notes Experience Records should: 1. Detail your engineering work 2. Describe your projects and roles you played 3. Indicate the nature of the problems solved, the designs performed, factors considered 4. Specifically identify the engineering you did 5. Use ‘first person’ … “I” instead of “we” and “I calculated” instead of “It was calculated” 6. Use ‘action’ verbs... such as “designed”, “analyzed”, “presented”, “controlled”

29 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Membership Requirements – Experience notes Experience Records – at any stage of your career - should be totally prepared... Don't leave anything to PEO that you can do yourself - have it all covered You want their responses to be 'yes' or 'maybe'..... not 'no'

30 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Membership Requirements – Experience notes Talk with your employer, supervisor, manager, colleagues, associates on a regular basis Document all of your work with special attention to your roles & contributions

31 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Membership Requirements – Experience notes Carefully check the 5 required elements and your work related to them regularly – at least every 3 months Create a summary of everything you have done in these 5 areas – and discuss with a supervisory P. Eng. and have him/her sign it Application of theory Practical experience Management of engineering Communication skills Social implications of engineering

32 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Membership Requirements – Experience notes Note dates, names, places, projects, details, evaluations, etc. Ask your P. Eng. supervisor for letters of reference (write the outline yourself noting your strengths and accomplishments) on a regular basis – these could coincide with reviews, evaluations and other work determined events (e.g. the successful completion of a team or individual project) Experience

33 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Membership Requirements - notes Develop your own set of Experience records - using the Experience Guide - using the EIT checklist - using samples as guidelines such as those on the “Path2PEng” web site created by Bob Loree in 2008 for the Hamilton-Burlington Chapter, SISO and others checklist Path2PEng Experience

34 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Membership Requirements - notes Some additional considerations are: 1. Other Licences 2. Exam Waiving Options (Academic Requirements Committee) (ARC) 3. Interviews Experience Requirements Committee) (ERC) 4. Experience - Master’s or PhD degrees 5. Experience - Applied Research ERC Licences

35 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Passport to P. Eng. – Agenda 6:00 – 7:00Welcome and Introductions Membership Requirements Overview Canadian Trained Perspective Internationally Trained Perspective EIT Perspective Mentorship Path to P. Eng 7:00 – 7:45Round Table Discussions - Mentorship [Table 1] - Experience Requirements [Table 2] - Professional Practice Exam [Table 3] - Internationally Trained Engineers [Table 4] 7:45 – 8:00Summary & Closing Remarks

36 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Canadian Trained Perspective Graduate from accredited programs. Usually with key ‘engineering’ courses taught by professional engineers. Usually with a full course, or equivalent, in Engineering Ethics and/or Engineers in Society

37 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Canadian Trained Perspective Likely have some workplace experiences in work terms, co-op placements or Internships Probably have developed a network of contacts for employment Should have a realistic view of the profession and its related opportunities Should have a realistic view of the profession and its related opportunities

38 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Canadian Trained Perspective A relatively small number choose to apply for a licence – the Iron Ring seems to be fairly satisfying and sufficient Usually have an education debt to pay, want value for their dollar and will wait to see if a licence is ‘worth it’

39 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Canadian Trained Perspective Many have additional career options – related to the diverse choices of degree programs … such as Bio Engineering, Management, Society, minor programs Many combine their engineering knowledge and skills with other interests such as music, writing, sports, business, recreation, family businesses, entrepreneurial endeavours

40 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Canadian Trained Perspective They are willing to take their time and also, generally apathetic toward licensing

41 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Passport to P. Eng. – Agenda 6:00 – 7:00Welcome and Introductions Membership Requirements Overview Canadian Trained Perspective Internationally Trained Perspective EIT Perspective Mentorship Path to P. Eng 7:00 – 7:45Round Table Discussions - Mentorship [Table 1] - Experience Requirements [Table 2] - Professional Practice Exam [Table 3] - Internationally Trained Engineers [Table 4] 7:45 – 8:00Summary & Closing Remarks

42 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Internationally Trained Perspective Engineers come to Canada from around the world. Three common experiences are: 1 – finding a place to live 2 – finding an Engineering job 3 – finding assistance with everyday life

43 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Internationally Trained Perspective Three common issues are: 1 – licensing process 2 – academic records 3 – experience records

44 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Internationally Trained Perspective Suggestions for your Path to P. Eng. are: 1 – how/where to look for employment 2 – resumes/cover letters 3 – education opportunities 4 – market trends, developing contacts 5 – volunteer, network, business card 6 – organizations, events 6 – organizations, events

45 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Internationally Trained Perspective Provisional Licence Concern: No Canadian experience Could be issued if all licensing requirements were met except the 12 months of acceptable engineering experience in Canada under the supervision of a licensed professional engineer Could be issued if all licensing requirements were met except the 12 months of acceptable engineering experience in Canada under the supervision of a licensed professional engineer

46 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Internationally Trained Perspective Special features that might help in your career: - your primary language - foreign design code / standard - experience different cultures - global knowledge - having lived in various countries - being flexible, adaptable

47 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Internationally Trained Perspective Familiarize with: - Engineers Canada and Professional engineering associations of other Canadian provinces / territories - PEO Guideline on Human Rights - Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms - Employment Standards Act

48 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Passport to P. Eng. – Agenda 6:00 – 7:00Welcome and Introductions Membership Requirements Overview Canadian Trained Perspective Internationally Trained Perspective EIT Perspective Mentorship Path to P. Eng 7:00 – 7:45Round Table Discussions - Mentorship [Table 1] - Experience Requirements [Table 2] - Professional Practice Exam [Table 3] - Internationally Trained Engineers [Table 4] 7:45 – 8:00Summary & Closing Remarks

49 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO EIT Perspective 1. The EIT program endeavours to help candidates ensure that they are obtaining acceptable experience 2. The EIT program does not place people in work situations 3. Engineering Interns have the opportunity to participate in Chapter activities 4. You don't have to enrol in the EIT program on your Path to P. Eng. 4. You don't have to enrol in the EIT program on your Path to P. Eng.

50 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO EIT Perspective If you are a non-CEAB graduate there are conditions: A) enrol after assigned CEP CEP = Confirmatory Exam Program or B) enrol after completed SEP SEP = Specific Exam Program

51 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO EIT Perspective Benefits (from the PEO web site): Benefits (from the PEO web site): 1. Provides you with an annual review of your engineering experience 2. Demonstrates to employers that you are serious about being licensed as a Professional Engineer 3. Entitles you to receive the Association's official publications - Engineering Dimensions 4. Allows you to join a chapter and attend chapter meetings 4. Allows you to join a chapter and attend chapter meetings

52 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO EIT Perspective Disadvantages: Check value for extra EIT fees – may vary with your background May have a time limit imposed to write the PPE exam

53 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Passport to P. Eng. – Agenda 6:00 – 7:00Welcome and Introductions Membership Requirements Overview Canadian Trained Perspective Internationally Trained Perspective EIT Perspective Mentorship Path to P. Eng 7:00 – 7:45Round Table Discussions - Mentorship [Table 1] - Experience Requirements [Table 2] - Professional Practice Exam [Table 3] - Internationally Trained Engineers [Table 4] 7:45 – 8:00Summary & Closing Remarks

54 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Mentorship - What is it? Mentoring is an effective way of providing Engineers with guidance and advice to pursue their professional engineering licence and to access information, resources and professional networks within their sectors while providing managers, supervisors and organizations with an opportunity to explore recruitment opportunities and meet their staffing needs.

55 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Mentorship - Why have a Mentoring Program? 1. Assist Engineers to obtain their P. Eng. licence 2. Workplace culture – the art of getting things done varies by country 3. Networks & Social Capital – access to employment is highly dependent upon personal and professional networks 4. Information: understanding how skills, experience and education relate to the workplace

56 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Mentorship – Program Objectives 1. Increase number of licensed Engineers 2. Increase employment prospects by matching skilled Engineers with counterparts 3. Building social capital through links and relationships created by Mentoring 4. Increase access of trained individuals to value added services 5. Change the way companies and employers relate to skilled immigrants

57 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Mentorship – Who are the Mentees? Mentees are trained Engineers, legally entitled to work in Canada, and who: 1. Are currently pursuing licensure with PEO 2. Are job ready: high degree of functionality in English; education credentials assessed; have a job-ready resume; are well prepared to function within the workplace 3. Do not have prior exposure to a Canadian work setting in their field 4. Lack access to professional networks 5. Are highly motivated and open to learning opportunities

58 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Mentorship – Who are the Mentors? 1. People who have a combination of knowledge and business experience to bring wisdom as a guide/coach to a learning process 2. Share information on PEO Licensing process 3. Share insights related to Canadian workplace values & culture 4. Provide access to professional networks 5. Provide coaching for interviews and meetings 6. Share information on current workplace & industry trends 6. Share information on current workplace & industry trends

59 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Passport to P. Eng. – Agenda 6:00 – 7:00Welcome and Introductions Membership Requirements Overview Canadian Trained Perspective Internationally Trained Perspective EIT Perspective Mentorship Path to P. Eng 7:00 – 7:45Round Table Discussions - Mentorship [Table 1] - Experience Requirements [Table 2] - Professional Practice Exam [Table 3] - Internationally Trained Engineers [Table 4] 7:45 – 8:00Summary & Closing Remarks

60 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Path to P. Eng. The Hamilton-Burlington Chapter provides opportunities for people on their path to the profession Check our web site and our brochure We offer programs and assistance to students, EITs as well as graduated engineers.

61 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Path to P. Eng. – Resources & Information Examples are: - Soar with Science presentations to elementary and high school-age students - Halton Engineering Challenge for grade 8 students - Awards at local Science/Engineering Fairs - Inclusion of local university students - Industry, Interest & Social Tours and Events - Professional Development opportunities - Passport to P Eng evenings

62 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Path to P. Eng. – COMMON QUESTIONS I'm a qualified foreign engineer but I am working as a [technician, technologist, draftsperson]. What should I do? How do I get that first job to get on the P. Eng track?

63 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Path to P. Eng. – COMMON QUESTIONS How do I get a P. Eng mentor/supervisor when my employer doesn’t have one? What can I do to improve my English for interviews and employment?

64 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Path to P. Eng. – SPECIFIC QUESTIONS I am a graduate Engineer from another country, and a recent Permanent Resident to Canada. World Education Services (WES) has equated my degree to a 4-year Bachelors Degree in Canada. I have over 10 years experience in my field, and now working locally as an Equipment Reliability Coordinator. 1. What will be my obstacles in obtaining my Professional license in Ontario? 2. What duration will the process take?

65 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Passport to P. Eng. – Agenda 6:00 – 7:00Welcome and Introductions Membership Requirements Overview Canadian Trained Perspective Internationally Trained Perspective EIT Perspective Mentorship Path to P. Eng 7:00 – 7:45Round Table Discussions - Mentorship [Table 1] - Experience Requirements [Table 2] - Professional Practice Exam [Table 3] - Internationally Trained Engineers [Table 4] 7:45 – 8:00Summary & Closing Remarks

66 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Round Table Discussions Ask questions and share your experiences and knowledge at these tables. Mentorship [Table 1] Experience Requirements [Table 2] Professional Practice Exam [Table 3] Internationally Trained Engineers [Table 4]

67 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Passport to P. Eng. – Agenda 6:00 – 7:00Welcome and Introductions Membership Requirements Overview Canadian Trained Perspective Internationally Trained Perspective EIT Perspective Mentorship Path to P. Eng 7:00 – 7:45Round Table Discussions - Mentorship [Table 1] - Experience Requirements [Table 2] - Professional Practice Exam [Table 3] - Internationally Trained Engineers [Table 4] 7:45 – 8:00Summary & Closing Remarks

68 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Summary & Closing Remarks Raj Jain, P. Eng. Bob Loree, P. Eng.

69 Soar with Science Hamilton-Burlington Chapter PEO Passport to P. Eng.


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