How to Use DNA in Your Genealogical Research William Remus Emeritus Professor of Information Technology Management University of Hawaii Honolulu, HI 96822.

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How to Use DNA in Your Genealogical Research William Remus Emeritus Professor of Information Technology Management University of Hawaii Honolulu, HI faculty.shidler.hawaii.edu/remus/genes/

Remus? Rem (pronounced Rehm) = Saxon clan name for those who punch holes (in people using spears). Lots of Rem in Bavaria and Saxony from us A Latin suffix added by those associated with the Catholic church around 1500 (very fashionable then)

What Genealogical Questions Can Be Answered Using DNA Analysis? A. Gaps in family records Missing and destroyed church books and civil records No records exist at all B. Finding if you are related to others with the same or a similar surname If you cannot cross the Atlantic with your and their documentation, DNA will do it and find out if there is a common ancestor C. Solving various family mysteries Natural or adopted? American Indian roots? Famous relative?

First Some Birds and Bees (L rated for Lutherans)

And Soon …

Notice the variety in children… This is created when the mother and father’s DNA merge to create the new child. Each merging of DNA is different than any other so couples get a variety of children. And since the DNA both the mother and father provide are from their ancestors each new child reflects in a different way their ancestors.

DNA Bottom Line Boys get their 23 rd chromosome (the Y chromosome) from their father. So boy’s Y chromosome traces their paternal line. Children get their mitochondrial DNA from their mother. So children’s mitochondrial DNA traces their maternal line.

My Approach DNA Testing is very useful when you wish to compare specific individuals to see if they are related. DNA should be thought of as evidence for a relationship, not proof of a relationship. Just fishing in the DNA pool yields little useful information.

Case Study I: Who is Franz Remus’ father? Who is Franz Remus? Postmaster of Vandsburg born about 1755 (Deutsche Geschlechterbuch vol 62 from 1929) West Prussia 1772 Land Census gives us many Remus family members, three have sons name Franz born about the right time Peter Remus the Shepherd in Waldowo? Franz Remus the wealthy farmer of Stretzin living with his daughter in Rotzellen? Martin Remus the village head of Schwente? First: What we know without DNA analysis Second: What DNA analysis tells us about this question

Migrations 1700 to 1772

How would you approach this problem using DNA analysis?

Selecting the DNA Sample Peter the Shepherd – me Martin of Schwente – Horst Remus of IBM Franz of Stretzin – no known person Is that all?

Selecting the DNA Sample Peter the Shepherd – me Martin of Schwente – Horst Remus of IBM Franz of Stretzin – no known person Is that all? Franz of Vandsburg – Marc Remus of Koln

All it takes is a swab!

Processing the DNA Sample The basis for comparing Y DNA. Identify definitive regions of the DNA Count the replication of patterns in each region More money = more regions on the DNA

Case Study II: Is August Remus related to Franz or Peter? Franz Remus Postmaster of Vandsburg born about 1755 (Deutsche Geschlechterbuch vol 62 from 1929) and son of Martin Remus the village head of Schwente Peter Remus the Shepherd in Waldowo? Neither August Remus is a blacksmith born in 1815 near Vandsburg. He worked on manorial estates in Mrotschen and his children ended up migrating to the Chicago area. First: What we know without DNA analysis Second: What DNA analysis tells us about this question

Migrations 1700 to 1772

Case Study III: Are the Gottlieb Krassin and Martin Krassin lines related? Gottlieb was born in Radowanke ca 1780 (they went directly to MN) and Martin was born in 1782 in Schokken (they came to WI via Volhynia); both are from flax cloth making villages near Posen circa Who are the right samples?

Migrations 1700 to 1772

Who can provide the right DNA data on your ancestors? Finding your paternal grandfather’s Y DNA line (your surname line) Finding your paternal grandmother’s Y DNA line (her surname line) Finding your maternal grandfather’s line DNA (his surname line) Finding your maternal grandmother’s DNA line (her surname line)

Ydna vs Mdna The Y chromosome (YDNA) is one of the 23 chromosomes in the nucleus of the cell. Sperm carries either the Y chromosome or an X chromosome and so determines the sex of the child. Mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) is DNA in the cell but outside the nucleus. This is in the egg provided by the mother.

Autosomal DNA Supposing you took all 23 chromosomes and found critical regions in each. Then you compared these regions with others and you were very similar? This is what DNA products like Family Finder does.

Other Interesting DNA tests Are you descended from Genghis Khan? What path did your DNA take out of Africa? What is your ethnic mix of DNA? Are you a descendent of Native Americans?

Do you really want to know the answer? Non-paternal events Not really a Native American

Building a website to help attract people. With your dna lab - for example X53983&special=true X53983&special=true On your own - for example

What references or resources are available? Books (available in libraries or interlibrary loans) Megan Smolenyak-Smolenyak, Trace Your Roots with DNA, Rodale Press, 2004 Bryan Sykes, The Seven Daughters of Eve, Norton, 2002 Bryan Sykes, Adam’s Curse, Norton, 2004 Websites Family Tree DNA Genealogy DNA Discussion Groups (not recommended – too technical)

Tutorials National Geographic Genonomic Project

This presentation is online at

Getting the Birds and the Bees to Reveal Their Secrets How complicated is all this to do? Choosing the test (25 marker) and DNA laboratory to do the work Getting the samples (its like brushing your teeth or gargling for Y DNA) Getting people to provide samples (might not be easy) Costs and who pays ($200 for Y DNA and $125 for mt DNA) Keeping track of the results

Analysis of Results

Family Line 3 Analysis of Results Family Line 1 Family Line 2 Family Line 4

While mutations occur with time, individuals that share a common ancestor, should show the same markers, or markers with very few mutations. Names and examples are fictional and do not represent actual samples or families

Your genes - 46 chromosomes - 23 from each parent 1 pair sex chromosomes 22 pairs Autossomes

Now a small technical dna interlude From the Genetics Learning Center at University of Utah State website

DNA Mutates DNA changes over time (sounds bad) There is an average rate for mutation So a small difference in DNA can be used to estimate the date of the common ancestor.

Quiz 1 Case Study IIIa: Are the William Remus of MI and Martin Remus of MN lines related? William’s ancestors were born in West Prussia (they went to Volhynia, MB, SK then MI) and Martin’s ancestors were born in Pomerania (they came directly to WI and then to MN). Who are the right samples?