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2 1 Making the Most of Student Resources Jane Fry Carleton University DLI Orientation April 5, 2004

3 2 Outline The Carleton University setup The Carleton University setup Students – why, who, where, what Students – why, who, where, what Training and Training Tools Training and Training Tools Work Schedule Work Schedule Benefits for the Students Benefits for the Students Drawback of Hiring Students Drawback of Hiring Students The Other Student The Other Student Payoff of Hiring Students Payoff of Hiring Students

4 3 Carleton University Data Centre Our background Our background We are part of MADGIC We are part of MADGIC We only do data, that is, no gov docs, no GIS, no maps We only do data, that is, no gov docs, no GIS, no maps Our Staffing Situation Our Staffing Situation Took a while to get our HR on board Took a while to get our HR on board 2 FT (WW and I), 5 PT (5-15 $8hr), 1 TA (10 hr/wk) 2 FT (WW and I), 5 PT (5-15 $8hr), 1 TA (10 hr/wk) Try to get OSAP students (to save the Library money) Try to get OSAP students (to save the Library money)

5 4 Students! Why do you need them? Why do you need them? To help the clients To help the clients To do the grunt work To do the grunt work To cover the desk when both the FT are absent To cover the desk when both the FT are absent Who are they? Who are they? At least 3 rd year, undergrad At least 3 rd year, undergrad From a Social Sciences background From a Social Sciences background Must have taken a Stats course Must have taken a Stats course Must know SPSS Must know SPSS

6 5 Students (contd) Where do they come from? Where do they come from? Trolling! From our class presentations Trolling! From our class presentations From our regular clients who know what they are doing From our regular clients who know what they are doing Word of mouth – our students who are currently working for us tell their friends Word of mouth – our students who are currently working for us tell their friends What do they do (once they are trained)? What do they do (once they are trained)? Primary task - help clients Primary task - help clients Secondary task – fix up/change labels for surveys to make them more user friendly Secondary task – fix up/change labels for surveys to make them more user friendly

7 6 Training Dont scare them off! Dont scare them off! Give constant reassurance Give constant reassurance Steep Learning curve Steep Learning curve They will be learning lots of new stuff in a short period of time They will be learning lots of new stuff in a short period of time Keep shifts short for the first few weeks, 2-4 hr Keep shifts short for the first few weeks, 2-4 hr Only train 1 student at a time - everyone learns at different speeds & has different questions Only train 1 student at a time - everyone learns at different speeds & has different questions I do all the training I do all the training Ask other staff not to help the trainees when they are doing the exercises! Ask other staff not to help the trainees when they are doing the exercises!

8 7 Training Tools Training Schedule – a check-off list for me listing all the training steps Training Schedule – a check-off list for me listing all the training steps Training Book – to be read by all students Training Book – to be read by all students Request Sheet – the client fills it out Request Sheet – the client fills it out for all questions, requests, inquiries for all questions, requests, inquiries Treasure hunt – to help learn the many different surveys – their names, locations, … Treasure hunt – to help learn the many different surveys – their names, locations, … Familiarizes the student with our webpage Familiarizes the student with our webpage

9 8 Training Tools (contd) Subset Exercise (this is how our clients obtain their data) Subset Exercise (this is how our clients obtain their data) Learn UNIX Learn UNIX Actual requests from clients Actual requests from clients First few requests have no errors First few requests have no errors The rest of the requests have an assortment of errors all based on real life cases The rest of the requests have an assortment of errors all based on real life cases Cheat Sheets Cheat Sheets Kept beside each computer listing the info most commonly asked for Kept beside each computer listing the info most commonly asked for

10 9 Work Schedule Based on their class schedule Based on their class schedule Based on the hrs of the DC Based on the hrs of the DC Based on our busy time periods (afternoons, especially Friday) Based on our busy time periods (afternoons, especially Friday) December and April – the hours change according to their exams December and April – the hours change according to their exams Make sure all your students are not enrolled in the same course! Make sure all your students are not enrolled in the same course!

11 10 Benefits of Working at the Data Centre Learn more skills Learn more skills Increase computer, research and people skills Increase computer, research and people skills Makes the student more employable Makes the student more employable All the skills they learn are useful All the skills they learn are useful Helps them with their stats course Helps them with their stats course They have on-the-job help from our Stats Consultant They have on-the-job help from our Stats Consultant On-campus Job On-campus Job Easy to get to in between classes Easy to get to in between classes

12 11 Benefits (contd) Other Uses of the Data Centre Other Uses of the Data Centre Can be used for own studies – quiet environment, private computers, … Can be used for own studies – quiet environment, private computers, … Future Employment Future Employment We hire 1-2 full-time students every summer We hire 1-2 full-time students every summer Govt agencies have called us looking for people to fill full-time, permanent jobs Govt agencies have called us looking for people to fill full-time, permanent jobs

13 12 Drawback of Hiring Students Your time investment Your time investment The training is Very time consuming The training is Very time consuming

14 13 Our Other Student Who is it? Who is it? A grad student from the Social Sciences with a stats background A grad student from the Social Sciences with a stats background Where do we get him/her from? Where do we get him/her from? Talk to profs who teach stats Talk to profs who teach stats Past clients Past clients Past employees Past employees

15 14 Our Other Student (contd) Training – the same as for the undergrads Training – the same as for the undergrads What exactly does s/he do? What exactly does s/he do? Statistical consulting for undergrads and grads Statistical consulting for undergrads and grads Very broad - help with spss, help analyzing tables, reading over reports, … Very broad - help with spss, help analyzing tables, reading over reports, … Does NOT do assignments for students Does NOT do assignments for students Students book a 1 hr appt Students book a 1 hr appt Can be alone or in groups Can be alone or in groups

16 15 The Payoff of Hiring Students An investment in the future of the Data Centre An investment in the future of the Data Centre Able to serve more clients Able to serve more clients The students fix up labels which allows our holdings to be user friendly The students fix up labels which allows our holdings to be user friendly Our students tell their friends about us & encourage them to come in to see us Our students tell their friends about us & encourage them to come in to see us Our students make using data seem easy so more people actually like data & arent afraid of it Our students make using data seem easy so more people actually like data & arent afraid of it

17 16 The Payoff (contd) Gives Wendy and I more time for other activities because by January the students are able to be left on their own Gives Wendy and I more time for other activities because by January the students are able to be left on their own Wendy is able to organize conferences, give presentations, … Wendy is able to organize conferences, give presentations, … Both Wendy and I are able to be away at conferences together (after January) because there is someone looking after the Data Centre Both Wendy and I are able to be away at conferences together (after January) because there is someone looking after the Data Centre

18 17 In Conclusion … I highly recommend hiring students to work at your Data Centre. It has been an exciting and rewarding experience both for us and our students. And we will continue to do it in the future. I highly recommend hiring students to work at your Data Centre. It has been an exciting and rewarding experience both for us and our students. And we will continue to do it in the future. To help in training, check out the Training File that contains the reports mentioned in this presentation. To help in training, check out the Training File that contains the reports mentioned in this presentation.

19 18 Contact Information Jane Fry Data Specialist Carleton University Ottawa, Ontario (613) x1121


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