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1 Let’s Talk Education in the U.S.A Recruit in Canada Counselor Workshop September 28, 2007

2 Presenters Jim Crawley, Associate Director for International Recruitment - Grand Valley State University Jim Crawley, Associate Director for International Recruitment - Grand Valley State University Jerry Dueweke, Sr. Assistant Director of Admissions – Butler University Jerry Dueweke, Sr. Assistant Director of Admissions – Butler University Barry Kelland – Canadian Admissions Representative – Northwood University Barry Kelland – Canadian Admissions Representative – Northwood University

3 Objectives and Goals Helping the student with the college search Helping the student with the college search To familiarize you with the components of an application to a U.S. university To familiarize you with the components of an application to a U.S. university To talk through the application process To talk through the application process To familiarize you with the athletic recruiting and the NCAA process To familiarize you with the athletic recruiting and the NCAA process

4 Signs from Around the World In a Zurich hotel In a Zurich hotel Because of the impropriety of entertaining guests of the opposite sex in the bedroom, the lobby should be used for this purposeBecause of the impropriety of entertaining guests of the opposite sex in the bedroom, the lobby should be used for this purpose On the menu of a Swiss restaurant On the menu of a Swiss restaurant Our wines leave you nothing to hope forOur wines leave you nothing to hope for In a Bangkok dry cleaners In a Bangkok dry cleaners Drop your trousers here for best resultsDrop your trousers here for best results In a Norwegian cocktail bar In a Norwegian cocktail bar Ladies are requested to not have children in the barLadies are requested to not have children in the bar Outside a Hong Kong tailor shop Outside a Hong Kong tailor shop Ladies may have a fit upstairsLadies may have a fit upstairs

5 The “Search” The guidebooks The guidebooks The “rankings” The “rankings” The web sites The web sites College fairs College fairs College visits College visits

6 Guidebooks Good source for factual information Good source for factual information Usually used after list has been established Usually used after list has been established Much of the basic data can also be found on web sites Much of the basic data can also be found on web sites

7 The infamous “rankings” First and foremost, there are no official rankings in the U.S…..only magazines that do their own rankings..i.e…. First and foremost, there are no official rankings in the U.S…..only magazines that do their own rankings..i.e…. U.S. News & World Report – America’s Best Colleges U.S. News & World Report – America’s Best Colleges Money Magazine – Best Buys Money Magazine – Best Buys Princeton Review Princeton Review – 366 Best Colleges – 366 Best Colleges

8 The Web Sites / / / /

9 College Fairs Encourage attendance Encourage attendance Encourage students/parents to investigate schools they do not know Encourage students/parents to investigate schools they do not know Bring list of questions (Do you offer scholarships? should not be the first question!) Bring list of questions (Do you offer scholarships? should not be the first question!) Bring address labels/fill out inquiry cards Bring address labels/fill out inquiry cards Bring documents – athletic resumes, transcripts Bring documents – athletic resumes, transcripts

10 College Visits Individual visit or Visitation Day – check university web site Individual visit or Visitation Day – check university web site Call ahead/send in reservation Call ahead/send in reservation A tour and presentation are typical A tour and presentation are typical Other possibilities, depending on institution (you need to ask), include: Lunch, Visiting a class, Talk with a professor, Talk to a coach, Staying overnight with a student Other possibilities, depending on institution (you need to ask), include: Lunch, Visiting a class, Talk with a professor, Talk to a coach, Staying overnight with a student

11 Scholarship, Scholarship, Scholarship…. Show me the money!

12 Academic “Merit” Scholarships GPA requirement GPA requirement Test score requirement Test score requirement Leadership Leadership Involvement Involvement Essay Essay Watch Deadlines! Watch Deadlines!

13 Need-based Aid Grants Grants Income-basedIncome-based Loans Loans Need U.S. co-signerNeed U.S. co-signer On-campus work On-campus work Might not be offered prior to arrivalMight not be offered prior to arrival Jobs are normally availableJobs are normally available Income will only be spending moneyIncome will only be spending money

14 Performing Arts Scholarships Art Art Portfolio requiredPortfolio required Check with school for exact requirementsCheck with school for exact requirements Watch for specific submission dateWatch for specific submission date Music/Theater/Dance Music/Theater/Dance Audition CD/DVDAudition CD/DVD Check with school for exact requirementsCheck with school for exact requirements Usually only “Majors” get scholarshipUsually only “Majors” get scholarship Watch for deadlineWatch for deadline

15 Athletic Scholarships Start process early Start process early Athlete may be very good, but the other factor is the “needs” of the team at that time Athlete may be very good, but the other factor is the “needs” of the team at that time Put together packet of info that can be shared with coaches Put together packet of info that can be shared with coaches To play for the most competitive DI and DII schools you have to be a highly ranked athlete To play for the most competitive DI and DII schools you have to be a highly ranked athlete Full scholarships are rare Full scholarships are rare Academics are #1….very few go on to play professional sports Academics are #1….very few go on to play professional sports

16 The Admissions Timetable Early Decision Early Decision Early Action Early Action Rolling Admission Rolling Admission Deadlines Deadlines

17 The Application Packet The application – not standardized across U.S. Common app – not universally acceptedCommon app – not universally accepted University app – on-line or paperUniversity app – on-line or paper Make sure app is filled out COMPLETELY, and ACCURATELYMake sure app is filled out COMPLETELY, and ACCURATELY Check to see if Canadians need to fill out the “international” application if applicableCheck to see if Canadians need to fill out the “international” application if applicable Make sure app is signed by applicant and counselorMake sure app is signed by applicant and counselor Application Fee – Up to $70 – normally not waived

18 Proof of Language Proficiency TOEFL/IELTS is normally waived for Canadians TOEFL/IELTS is normally waived for Canadians Some possible exceptions (as determined by each individual university): Some possible exceptions (as determined by each individual university): Student is in ESL classesStudent is in ESL classes Student has only been in Canada for one yearStudent has only been in Canada for one year Student’s first language is not EnglishStudent’s first language is not English

19 The Essay Not always required Not always required Sometimes only required for scholarship consideration Sometimes only required for scholarship consideration SAT writing section is sometimes accepted as “essay” SAT writing section is sometimes accepted as “essay” Topic may or may not be given Topic may or may not be given Preferred length may or may not be given Preferred length may or may not be given Be creative, but don’t go overboard Be creative, but don’t go overboard “The World is my oyster and “X” University is my pearl.”“The World is my oyster and “X” University is my pearl.” Two most common mistakes Two most common mistakes MisspellingsMisspellings Wrong school name on essayWrong school name on essay

20 SAT May or may not be required for admission and/or scholarship May or may not be required for admission and/or scholarship Recommended minimum score or average score is usually available on the university web site Recommended minimum score or average score is usually available on the university web site SAT IS required if you would like to try and be in intercollegiate athletics SAT IS required if you would like to try and be in intercollegiate athletics NCAA minimum SAT requirement is lower than many of the universities’ admissions requirements NCAA minimum SAT requirement is lower than many of the universities’ admissions requirements Written part is not necessarily counted in overall score total for admission purposes, depending on institution, however, it may be used for English placement or as a separate item in the admissions decision Written part is not necessarily counted in overall score total for admission purposes, depending on institution, however, it may be used for English placement or as a separate item in the admissions decision

21 Transcripts Original transcript is required from each secondary school attended Original transcript is required from each secondary school attended Must show classes taken and grades received Must show classes taken and grades received Some schools will “weigh” AP or IB courses, while other colleges will take the grades exactly as the SS sends them Some schools will “weigh” AP or IB courses, while other colleges will take the grades exactly as the SS sends them

22 Verification of financial support Original bank statement Original bank statement Must show at least one year’s worth of expenses, as established by each individual college/universityMust show at least one year’s worth of expenses, as established by each individual college/university It is assumed that the support will continue for the duration of the degreeIt is assumed that the support will continue for the duration of the degree If a scholarship has already been offered, only the balance might need to be shownIf a scholarship has already been offered, only the balance might need to be shown If a scholarship of any kind is offered, it is important to get it in writing, AND it is crucial that the offer is “accepted” by established deadline.If a scholarship of any kind is offered, it is important to get it in writing, AND it is crucial that the offer is “accepted” by established deadline. Signed statement from parent or sponsor Signed statement from parent or sponsor

23 Other Items Recommendation letters Recommendation letters Resume Resume IEP – Individual Education Plan – used for students who have specific learning needs IEP – Individual Education Plan – used for students who have specific learning needs Rank (needed or not) Rank (needed or not) Art portfolio Art portfolio Music audition tape Music audition tape

24 The Admissions Decision Watch Deadlines!....both for admission, and for scholarship Watch Deadlines!....both for admission, and for scholarship Make sure application file is complete Make sure application file is complete Be familiar with the universities’ admissions processes. Be familiar with the universities’ admissions processes. Can new updated info be sent later for scholarship consideration?Can new updated info be sent later for scholarship consideration? Is there an appeal process?Is there an appeal process? Admissions closed / Wait list / Wait pool Admissions closed / Wait list / Wait pool

25 Intercollegiate Athletics

26 NCAA Classification Division I and Division II (DI & DII) Division I and Division II (DI & DII) ExamplesExamples DifferencesDifferences Division III (DIII) Division III (DIII) ExamplesExamples Athletic scholarships not availableAthletic scholarships not available NAIA NAIA Jr./Community College Jr./Community College Other Other Club SportsClub Sports IntramuralsIntramurals

27 How Coaches Recruit Inquiries by students/their coaches Inquiries by students/their coaches Timetable Timetable Talent vs. need Talent vs. need Recruited vs. walk-on Recruited vs. walk-on Time commitment Time commitment Stress should be on academics Stress should be on academics

28 What can a prospective student/athlete send? An athletic resume An athletic resume Letters from coach Letters from coach Highlight video Highlight video Newspaper articles Newspaper articles On-campus work-out On-campus work-out

29 Potential Affect of Athletics on the Admissions Process An athlete might go through the admissions process later than others, depending on the sport An athlete might go through the admissions process later than others, depending on the sport If an athlete is a “blue chip” recruit, then the coach will probably be talking to admissions about him/her If an athlete is a “blue chip” recruit, then the coach will probably be talking to admissions about him/her Admissions requirements still have to be met, but if a student is border-line SOMETIMES a coach will “go to bat” for a prospect with the admissions office Admissions requirements still have to be met, but if a student is border-line SOMETIMES a coach will “go to bat” for a prospect with the admissions office

30 https://www.ncaaclearinghouse.net/ NCAA/general/index_general.html Information for International Student-AthletesWhat is the NCAA Initial-Eligibility Clearinghouse? Information for International Student-AthletesWhat is the NCAA Initial-Eligibility Clearinghouse? The Clearinghouse is an agency which will provide initial- eligibility certification for all prospective student-athletes wishing to compete as freshmen at NCAA member institutions offering Division I or II athletics. The Clearinghouse is not a placement agency or an admissions office - it will not locate a college/institution for student-athletes to attend. The NCAA Clearinghouse will provide the student's initial-eligibility certification results to all colleges/universities that request to receive this information.The Clearinghouse is an agency which will provide initial- eligibility certification for all prospective student-athletes wishing to compete as freshmen at NCAA member institutions offering Division I or II athletics. The Clearinghouse is not a placement agency or an admissions office - it will not locate a college/institution for student-athletes to attend. The NCAA Clearinghouse will provide the student's initial-eligibility certification results to all colleges/universities that request to receive this information. Who must register with the Clearinghouse? Any prospective student-athlete who will enroll in college as a freshman and plans to compete in NCAA Division I or Division II athletics must register with the Clearinghouse. Who must register with the Clearinghouse? Any prospective student-athlete who will enroll in college as a freshman and plans to compete in NCAA Division I or Division II athletics must register with the Clearinghouse.

31 The NCAA Clearinghouse Courses taken, grades received and SAT I scores are all part of the process Courses taken, grades received and SAT I scores are all part of the process Clearinghouse requirements are lower than most university’s admissions requirements Clearinghouse requirements are lower than most university’s admissions requirements Being “cleared” to play does not insinuate admission to any university Being “cleared” to play does not insinuate admission to any university

32 Clearinghouse Requirement for Ontario Students Ontario Secondary School Diploma (OSSD). The document above meets core-curriculum requirements only if the coursework represented satisfies the core-curriculum distribution as specified in Bylaw The grade-point average must be at least percent (equivalent to U.S ) to percent (equivalent to U.S ) or higher on a (100 high) scale. The grade-point average is calculated by averaging those core courses with passing grades that appear on the document above and transcripts for grades nine through 12. Courses must satisfy the core-curriculum distribution specified in Bylaw Please note that courses identified as P (applied), O (open), E (workplace prep) and C (college) are not acceptable. Courses identified as M (university/college preparation), U (university preparation) and D (academic) are acceptable. Applicable grading scale (may not be all inclusive): Excellent % Good 70-79% Satisfactory 60-69% Poor 50-59% (lowest passing grade; see page 5) Fail 0-49%

33 Estimated Probability of Competing in Athletics Beyond SS level Student Athletes Men’s Basketball Women’s Basketball Baseball Men’s Ice Hockey Men’sSoccer SS Athletes 546,335452,929470,67136,263358,935 SS Sr. Athletes 156,096129,408134,47710, NCAA Athletes 16,57115,09628,7673,97319,793 NCAA Fresh. Roster Pos. 4,7354,3138,2191,1355,655 NCAA Sr. Athletes 3,6823,3556, ,398 NCAA Athletes Drafted % SS - NCAA 3.0%3.3%6.1%11.0%5.5% % NCAA - Pro 1.2%1.0%9.4%3.7%1.7% % SS - Pro 0.03%0.02%0.45%0.32%0.07%

34 Question and Answer

35 Thank you! We look forward to seeing at the University Fair!


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