1. Revisions to SARTOR

2. UK-SPEC United Kingdom Standards for Professional Engineering Competence

3. Sartor 3 Perceived Problems: Lack of clarity of routes and progression Uncertain status of Incorporated Engineer Long time to professional status Need to recognise the Malpas millions Educational base  Need to focus on output standards

4. Context The EPC Engineering Graduate Output Standard Quality Assurance Agency for Higher Education Bologna Declaration A Levels – quality, content, structure Access to Higher Education ETB and the Chartered Technologist

5. Sartor 3 – Educational base CEng Exemplifying qualification MEng (4yr) BBB for 80% of entry cohort for accreditation OR  BEng (Hons) (3yr)  CCC for 80% of entry cohort  Plus MATCHING SECTION (equiv 1yr) OR  Cognate degree plus MATCHING SECTION

6. Sartor 3 – Educational base IEng BEng non-Honours Not an attractive degree in HE Or Higher National qualification and Matching Section

7. UK-SPEC Focus on Competence – similar to Sartor 3 Education bases exemplify underpinning knowledge & understanding Provide chartered status earlier rather than later CET as working title Provide clear progression routes Clarify international comparabilities More flexible Educational Base Provides ‘career appraisal’ route for non-standard registrants

8. UK-SPEC Educational Base Input standard requirements an accreditation issue Focus on Output Standards Building on EPC Output Standards and QAA Benchmarks Raise the standard of IEng educational base

9. UK-SPEC ‘Formation’ Registratio n Educational Base IPDProfessiona l Review Part 1Part 2 CEng BEng(Hons)Further Learning  CEng PR MEng CET HNC/HND/FDFurther Learning  CET PR BEng(Hons) or BSc(Hons)

10. Questions Are the categories appropriate? Are titles appropriate? What more needs to be done on competence statements? Are exemplifying academic standards appropriate? What kind of Masters for CEng? What about output standards? Are they internationally defensible?

11. The process Consultation until 24 April Consideration by Review Group and Board in May Publication of finalised specifications in June Detailed requirements to be drafted from then until autumn Intended to mesh in with e.g. C Tech consideration

12. UK-SPEC United Kingdom Standards for Professional Engineering Competence Andrew Ramsay EC UK Executive Director aramsay@engc.org.uk