1. Joint Logistics Education & Development Forum
the Next Decade
Joint Logistics Education & Development Forum
Good morning, I’m honored to be speaking with you today. Thank you all for coming to this important education event.
I believe joint logistics education is one of the most important programs we, as a community, need to improve and I am pleased to see that all of you think the same.
Today, I’d like to share my thoughts on one aspect of where I believe Joint Logistics will be headed in the next decade. Why does this fit in a Joint Log Education Forum…because all of you are preparing the next generation of joint logisticians.
We need to know where we are going before we start the journey.
LTG Kathy Gainey
Director for Logistics (J-4)
The Joint Staff
11 June 09

2. Agenda Reading the Demand Signals Interagency Logistics
- Why focus on 2020?
Interagency Logistics
- New partnerships and processes
Interagency Logistics Imperatives
- Conceptual Framework
“The future of national and international security lies in interoperability and cooperation among the Services, the interagency, international partners and non-governmental organizations .” CJCS Guidance
Over the next 30 minutes or so, I’m going to provide a glimpse of where we think Joint Logistics will be in the next decade. Based on some of the work we have been doing in the J4, George Topic and the J4 team and I have spent a fair amount of time thinking about this important subject.
I’m going to start by discussing what I’ll call demand signals –those things that say “Kathy – Heads up”. What tea leaves have we been reading and why now presents such an opportunity for us – as a community – to focus on interagency logistics.
The second half of my discussion will focus on what the JL community sees as Joint Logistics Imperatives and how they apply to Interagency Logistics.
TRANSITION STATEMENT:
Before I move on, I want to highlight the words on this slide that Admiral Mullen wrote in his 2009 Guidance:
The future of national and international security lies in interoperability and cooperation among the Services, the interagency, international partners and non-governmental organizations .

3. Progression of Joint Logistics3
To Interdependency…
To Jointness…
To Coordination…
To Deconfliction…
When I was a major Joint Logistics was about Competition, Deconfliction and then Coordination – when you basically told the other unit what you were doing
Later on, in the 1980’s, joint logistics was coming to terms with jointness (Goldwater - Nichols helped that out a lot).
Logistics in the next decade will require opening of the aperture fully into the realm of Interagency logistics
TRANSITION STATEMENT:
We believe that we are starting to scratch the surface of interagency logistics and that now is the time to address this new frontier.
From Competition…
Progression also applies to Interagency Logistics

4. Documents that Impact the Future of Joint Logistics
This slide is a bit of an eye chart but it represents an important point to the reason I’m talking to you about interagency logistics. While the change in administration drives some of the significant updates in national security documents, there are also several documents being written that can change our Joint Logistics future. There are 3 components that are creating this unique opportunity. The National Security documents that change with the administration ; the defense documents that are in rewrite. And in the J4, we are writing the new Joint Logistics White Paper and the Supply Joint Integrating Concept – Future Logistics Documents.
We currently have a remarkable opportunity to shape the future of Joint Logistics and it is incumbent upon all of us to take advantage of this time and give our future serious consideration and attention.
I hope you will carefully consider what I’m going to say today. I hope this is the beginning of an important dialogue that we need to be having throughout our government and industry.
TRANSITION STATEMENT:
There are reasons why I believe the current environment presents an opportunity for us to shape logistics in the next decade.
National Security
Strategy
National Defense
Strategy
Joint Logistics
Strategy
March 2006
Opportunity to shape
the future of Joint Logistics

5. “Demand Signals…”
DOD Report on Improving
Interagency Support
June 2007
GAO Report on Improving
Stability Operations
May 2007
“Military forces must become more capable of… integrating non-kinetic activities into traditional combat missions …”
Some of the demand signals we have been seeing have been around for a few years. The 2 documents I’ve highlighted on the slide are DoD and GAO reports that illustrate the same point: That DoD must be able to support non-kinetic activities and traditional combat missions. They were both completed in These interagency operations/logistics missions are important for us because they typically have logistics as the lead. I have spent the last 7 months thinking about interagency logistics and trying to build the relationships to bring the disparate groups together. I believe we must make a lot more progress in this area.
These studies aren’t the only signs…
TRANSITION STATEMENT:
There are other signs we have been seeing that tell us that the current way of doing business might not be the most effective in the next decade.
How do we, the “logistics community” incorporate this trend?

6. Incorporate interoperability into war
“Demand Signals…”
Provincial Reconstruction Teams
Great example of interagency-centric
operations
Whole of government approach
Integrates non-kinetic missions
The success of Provincial Reconstruction Team operations has provided us with a great example of what interagency-centric operations could look like. This is a whole of government approach and directly addresses the spirit of non-kinetic missions for the military. We must think differently about integrating non-kinetic missions
I have a lot personal experience with PRT’s. I have seen them in action and I believe they have been very effective in strengthening ties in Iraq and building the local infrastructure and economy. I have also seen the challenge we have had in effectively supporting them on a day to day basis. They have operated through the heroic efforts of a small cadre of professionals and I believe we can do a better job in supporting PRT’s if we enter that capability into the war planning process.
Now is the time to factor PRT-like activities in to the war planning process and think about how would design them from scratch moving forward. If we could design from scratch, would we do it the same way?
TRANSITION STATEMENT:
Increased emphasis on non-kinetic missions can also be found in our COCOMs.
Incorporate interoperability into war
planning at outset

7. Traditional COCOM Support Model
US Agency
Civilian Contractors
Host Nation Operations
Coalition Operations
The traditional COCOM support is based around a military solution first, and then considers other sources of support. Now, I realize I am making huge generalizations here – we are just starting to think about these ideas.
Beyond that, we are not optimally configured…yet. But we can see signs of progress in places like SOUTHCOM and AFRICOM.
TRANSITION STATEMENT:
Compare this model to what we are seeing in AFRICOM
US Military
Solutions to regional problems

8. One example… AFRICOM Support Model
Local African
Local African Company
Local Multi-National Company
Non-Governmental Organizations
African Capabilities
for Africans
Civilian Contractors
Local Military-US Military
This chart represents what we have arbitrarily labeled as the AFRICOM support model turns the traditional model of military first on it’s head. In fact, we believe it actually inverts the support model and places the military at the bottom of the list. General Kip Ward uses the phrase African Capabilities for Africans – this is a great description of what we believe is an important of future COCOM support. Emphasizing economic development and building the local infrastructure early in the process and only using the traditional response modes after all other options have been exhausted.
I recently visited with the AFRICOM J4 team, General Martin and Mr Denny D'Angelo (Good to see you Denny) in Stuttgart (and was struck by how committed they are to General Ward’s words. They are aligning in ways to support this model.
They aren’t the only one’s…
We can also look to SOUTHCOM to see a similar conversion. ADM Jim Stavridis has made great strides in this area as well. His mission statement states:
“An interagency oriented organization seeking to support security and stability in the Americas.”
ADM Stavridis also implemented a novel program called the Public Private Cooperation (PPC) program. The PPC program will draw from all aspects of our national assets, expertise and ingenuity to leverage these efforts by partnering with industry, non-governmental organizations, academia and other private sector entities. The skills, assets and strengths of each sector will be combined to deliver services or facilities to one or more of our partner nations.
TRANSITION STATEMENT:
An initiative AFRICOM is developing to support their COCOM mission is a concept called the Adaptive Logistics Network. In it’s initial concept phase, it represents a new way of achieving visibility in a region.
Civilian Contractors/US Military
US Military
Make US Military the last option

9. Joint Logistics Imperatives
Interagency
Joint Logistics Imperatives
Unity of Effort
Process definition
Roles and responsibilities
Process transparency
Common output metrics I
JLE Visibility
Enterprise data architecture
Authoritative source data
24/7 access to network
This slide is almost 4 years old – and for good reason. These laws don’t change. Just because the spectrum of support changes, the imperatives of Joint Logistics still applies. In the next decade, as we evaluate interagency logistics, we will still use the imperatives on this slide as a lens in which we will assess operations. The requirement for Unity of Effort , Interagency Logistics Enterprise (ILE) and Rapid and Precise Response will be even more critical in the Interagency Environment.
TRANSITION STATEMENT
I want to emphasize something I said at the beginning of my remarks…we don’t have all the answers to this conceptual framework. That’s why I’m presenting it today – because I want you think about it – and talk about it.
But one thing we do know, is that the fundamental principles of Joint Logistics will grow in importance as we evolve.
Rapid & Precise Response
Velocity, Reliability, Visibility
Efficiency
Performance tracking
Process analysis
Conceptual Framework for Interagency Logistics

10. Progression of Interagency Logistics10
To Interdependency…
How to make the jump to Interdependency?
One question you might be asking is why I think I’m the one to talk about Interagency Logistics. After all, as the Joint Staff J4, my primary role is to support the Chairman and the Joint Warfighter. The reason I’m talking to you today is that I firmly believe we as a nation, and a collective logistics community, need to begin the dialogue. The requirement to support non-kinetic missions has already been stated – it is here – now.
I want you to try something – Google “Interagency Logistics”. I’ve done it – besides a few random references – there is nothing out there. No one is talking about it – and we need to – now.
So here we are at the early stages of Interagency Logistics. We believe we’re still in the Stove Pipe stage where we talk and operate when we have to…and while we do this OK when we absolutely have to – must do better…much better.
The question I have is this – what will it take to jump up the evolutionary scale to produce the kind of capabilities we will need for the future we expect – and the future we don’t!
Will it take a Goldwater – Nichols type mandate to make this happen
TRANSITION STATEMENT:
There are some things we hope you will do…
From Stovepipes…
A Goldwater – Nichols for Interagency…

11. Joint Logistics Education… A Future State
Putting the DoD logistics
network of networks behind every
Joint logistician!
Education will be a critical component in this development
I want to share with you my thoughts on a future state for joint logistics.
After the attributes have been developed, the curriculum built, and the Center for Joint Logistics Excellence operating in full gear…
My vision for joint logistics education is a state where every logistician serving in a joint capacity brings with him or her the entire network of networks of DoD, Interagency, and multinational logistics.
The ability – not just to know the process – but to know where and who to ask to get things accomplished in the joint environment
DJ4 Notes
***Experience in TF Hawk reach back thru DCMA, AMC, DLA, contracting command, medcom, and engineering to purchase land.
Any J4
Can you hear me now?
It’s About Knowledge and Reach Back!

12. What are we doing about it? Not just an idea…
Conference of Logistics Directors 2009 Theme:
“Beyond Jointness –
Interagency and Multinational Logistics”
JS J4 Division focused on interagency & multinational
logistics
Meetings w/UN, State/USAID, & DHS counterparts
Committed to developing joint logistics
tools and products that support the
joint warfighter in the future fight

13. What do I need from you… Interagency logistics is our future
Visualize enterprise participation…how can we
partner now…and in the future
Leverage academia, domestic and international partnerships – build new ones
Think creatively
Be the catalyst to change our culture
Collaborate, innovate – think about
future doctrine

14. Discussion