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1 -Surveying 101 – Why Do Surveys Cost so Much? (and Take so Long?) International Right of Way Association 55 th International Education Conference Indianapolis, Indiana June 30, 2009

2 The U.S. Public Land Survey System

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6 Public Land Survey Issues Original monuments were often wood posts, mounds, charcoal, stones, etc. More often than not, these corners were not very well perpetuated over time.

7 Section Corners Out of the +/-100,000 original corners in Indiana, how many are existent (i.e. properly perpetuated and referenced)? 15-20%? How many of those have state plane coordinates associated with their locations? 30% (5% of the total)?

8 Survey Control There is NO inherent relationship between the land fabric and “GPS.” Survey-grade accuracies cannot be achieved with the typical Wal-Mart purchased GPS. (Survey-grade accuracies require >$20,000 investment in equipment)

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11 Section Corners Average cost to perpetuate a lost or obliterated corner in Indiana: $1000-2000 per corner

12 What impact does this lack of documented corners have? Uncertain reference monuments Conflicting reference monuments Indeterminate reference monuments = Higher Cost Surveys that take more time

13 “Sufficiency” A legal description is considered sufficient if a competent surveyor can locate it on the ground. Why might a description be insufficient?

14 Problems with Record Documents Descriptions that do not close Ambiguous or missing words Multiple possible interpretations Plats and deeds with errors Descriptions that follow ill-defined or undefined rights of way Deed gaps and overlaps with adjoiners

15 Examples Description miscloses by over 900 feet “…Beginning at a stone near the corner of Kent’s barn (now gone)…” Bounds descriptions that call for each other “thence in the shape of a half-moon…”

16 Examples Description miscloses by over 900 feet “…Beginning at a stone near the corner of Kent’s barn (now gone)…” Bounds descriptions that call for each other “thence in the shape of a half-moon…” “…Also, being described by survey, as follows:…” An easement, 10 feet in width, adjoining and lying west of the right of way line…”

17 NE Cor. SE ¼ (Co. referenced monument fd.) SE Cor. N ½ SE ¼ by split SE Cor. SE ¼ (Co. referenced monument fd.) 350’ D&M Pipe fd. iron pin fd. in C.L. Rd. at (1309’ S. of cor.) 5’ 2’ Old fence ½ ¼ line ¼ line Centerline of Co.Rd. Beginning at an iron pin in the centerline of Road #300 W that is 1309 feet south of the NE corner of the SE 1/4 of Section 10-23-5; thence west on the fence line of the south half of said Section 10-23-5 a distance of 350 feet to an iron pipe; thence north and parallel to the east line of said Section 10- 23-5 a distance of 173 feet to an iron pipe; thence east and parallel to the 1/4 Section line of Section 10 a distance of 350 feet to an iron pin in the center of Road #300 W and the east section line of 10-23-5; thence south on centerline of said road 300 W a distance of 173 feet to the place of beginning, containing 1.38 + or - acres 173’d 172.57’m 2’ Pipe fd. 350’ D&M Old fence ½ ¼ line 2’

18 The Schneider Corporation Historic Fort Harrison 8901 Otis Avenue Indianapolis, IN 46216 Phone - 317.826.7100 Fax - 317.826.7200 contact@schneidercorp.com contact@schneidercorp.com Gary R. Kent Director, Integrated Services phone 317/826-7134 fax 317/826-7110 gkent@schneidercorp.com


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