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1 WLTP-DTP-13 Tokyo, 21./22.03.2013 DTP Subgroup LabProcICE slide 1 Progress Report DTP Subgroup Lab Process Internal Combustion Engines (LabProcICE)WLTP-DTP-13 Tokyo, 21./22.03.2013

2 WLTP-DTP-13 Tokyo, 21./22.03.2013 DTP Subgroup LabProcICE slide 2 1)State of the working progress 2)Open issues table (a) Open issues (red) (b) Scrutiny reservations (yellow) 3)Post-validation issues 4)Next steps Overview

3 WLTP-DTP-13 Tokyo, 21./22.03.2013 DTP Subgroup LabProcICE slide 3 13.02.2013Phone/web conference 20./21.02.2013 Brussels workshop at AECC/ACEA Open issues Table (OIT): LabProcICE-175  minutes: LabProcICE-200 04.03.2013Phone/web conference - remaining RLD issues of OIT Several dates:Phone/web conferences of Drafting Task Force & on other specific issues Meetings since DTP-12

4 WLTP-DTP-13 Tokyo, 21./22.03.2013 DTP Subgroup LabProcICE slide 4 1)State of the working progress 2)Open issues table (a) Open issues (red) (b) Scrutiny reservations (yellow) 3)Post-validation issues 4)Next steps Overview

5 WLTP-DTP-13 Tokyo, 21./22.03.2013 DTP Subgroup LabProcICE slide 5 Open Issues Table (OIT) Current revision (part of general OIT from VTF) with 41 items:  LabProcICE-175rev2. Green: 16 items closed on working level. Yellow: 11 items with a scrutiny reservation from one party. Red: 13 items - Contradictory proposals from Contracting Parties - Open issues on working level - Issues to be decided until June 2013 Note: Items where LabProcICE is not in charge to prepare/make decisions were switched to white.

6 WLTP-DTP-13 Tokyo, 21./22.03.2013 DTP Subgroup LabProcICE slide 6 1)State of the working progress 2)Open issues table (a) Open issues (red) (b) Scrutiny reservations (yellow) 3)Post-validation issues 4)Next steps Overview

7 WLTP-DTP-13 Tokyo, 21./22.03.2013 DTP Subgroup LabProcICE slide 7 Soak procedure (item 18 a) Solution 1 (EU position): Target temperature (23 ± 2) °C and forced cooling allowed  stability & practicability criteria “The vehicle is soaked for a minimum of 6 hours and a maximum of 36 hours with the bonnet opened or closed. If not excluded by specific provisions for a particular vehicle technology cooling may be accomplished by forced cooling down to the setpoint temperature. If cooling is accelerated by fans, the fans shall be placed so that the maximum cooling of the drive train, engine and the exhaust aftertreatment system is achieved in a homogenous manner. This conditioning shall be carried out for at least six hours and continue until the engine oil temperature and coolant, if any, are within ± 2 K of the setpoint.”

8 WLTP-DTP-13 Tokyo, 21./22.03.2013 DTP Subgroup LabProcICE slide 8 Solution 2 (Japanese position) Soak periode (12 - 36 h), no target temperature (“natural cooling down”)  representativeness criteria + covers benefits of heat storage systems  EU objection: soak at 23°C is not representative India: prefers natural cool down, but allows forced cooling  solution 1 accepted? LabProcEV: no forced cooling.

9 WLTP-DTP-13 Tokyo, 21./22.03.2013 DTP Subgroup LabProcICE slide 9 Soak for heat storage technologies (item 18b) Aim: harmonized approach instead of regional solution as e. g. eco-innovation concept in EU Solution 1: additional test (upon request of the manufacturer) - natural cooling down at [23 ± 3] °C. - soak period [12 h to 14 h] - usage of measured values as an regional option?  Combine with solution 2 of general soak procedure? Solution 2: mandate to develop dedicated test procedure  later stage of gtr

10 WLTP-DTP-13 Tokyo, 21./22.03.2013 DTP Subgroup LabProcICE slide 10 Monitoring RCB of all batteries(item 28 a/b) Agreed: charging of the battery can be omitted before precon (on the request of the manufacturer) + no charging after precon Open issue: Monitoring + Correction of CO 2 value Solution 1: - RCB measurement - correction if RCB is above [0.5 or 1] % of consumed fuel energy - follow HEV (based on measurement) and/or TU Graz (energy calculation)  EV: threshold dependent on mode construction  decision on value later Solution 2: - acc. to validation 2 results: no charging after precon is sufficient

11 WLTP-DTP-13 Tokyo, 21./22.03.2013 DTP Subgroup LabProcICE slide 11 Handling of GSI (item 26) Situation: GSI only mandatory in Europe Solution 1: GSI as an option for the manufacturer in the gtr  harmonized test procedure still needs to be developed  item 20 (gear change tolerances) not closed Solution 2: GSI excluded from gtr  regional procedure as an option for CPs

12 WLTP-DTP-13 Tokyo, 21./22.03.2013 DTP Subgroup LabProcICE slide 12 Vehicle warming up for RLD and on dyno (items 16 / 17) Current gtr text: warm up on the road: “Warming up is done by vehicle driving only. Driving shall be cruising and speed limit is [10 km/h] above the coastdown starting speed. (...)” warm up on the dyno: “Prior to the test, the vehicle shall be warmed up appropriately until normal vehicle operating temperatures have been reached. This condition is deemed to be fulfilled when three consecutive coastdowns are completed (...) During this warming up period, the vehicle speed shall not exceed the highest reference speed within the given tolerance of Annex/chapter (tbd.) ”

13 WLTP-DTP-13 Tokyo, 21./22.03.2013 DTP Subgroup LabProcICE slide 13 Japanese proposal from validation 3: On the road: On the dyno: Solution: Issue expected to be solved on expert level

14 WLTP-DTP-13 Tokyo, 21./22.03.2013 DTP Subgroup LabProcICE slide 14 4WD dyno specifications (item 41) State of play: Provisions included in gtr draft Japan proposal: provisions to be excluded until US EPA / SAE discussions finalized Solution: In the meantime agreement on specifications on expert level  Wording provided to Drafting Coordinator  Review after finalization of future 1066 regulation

15 WLTP-DTP-13 Tokyo, 21./22.03.2013 DTP Subgroup LabProcICE slide 15 Speed trace violation (item 25) State of play: Void criteria not yet discussed Solution to be discussed in connection with normalization approach  Issue expected to be solved on expert level

16 WLTP-DTP-13 Tokyo, 21./22.03.2013 DTP Subgroup LabProcICE slide 16 Open issues – to be solved until June 2013 Table of running resistances (item 11) State of play: Need for table as an alternative to measurement methods agreed. Proposal by PSA still objected General considerations by EU-COM (WLTP-DTP-13-05 - running resistances_EU.doc) 1) oriented towards "worst" case  avoid incentive to apply default values. 2) Limited usage  e.g. small series, number of vehicles, vehicle category DTP-13: Agreement on principles to come to a solution necessary Next steps: EU-Com and OICA will work on proposal

17 WLTP-DTP-13 Tokyo, 21./22.03.2013 DTP Subgroup LabProcICE slide 17 Comparison of RLD measurement methods (item 12) Solution 1: Include all 3 methods which are defined in ISO standard: coast down / torque meter / windtunnel  supported by Japan (scrutiny on windtunnel), EU (partly) and OICA Solution 2: Define reference method in case of no equivalency (shown)  EU-COM (supported by NL) proposed coast down  Industry is asked to provide back-to-back data for all three methods to show equivalency & repeatability

18 WLTP-DTP-13 Tokyo, 21./22.03.2013 DTP Subgroup LabProcICE slide 18 Other RLD issues Longitudinal slope for oval test track (item 36)  Within +/- 0.1% for total value? Rotating mass (item 38)  consistency within Annex 4 needs to be checked Calculation methods (item 39)  include all methods from ISO standard?

19 WLTP-DTP-13 Tokyo, 21./22.03.2013 DTP Subgroup LabProcICE slide 19 1)State of the working progress 2)Open issues table (a) Open issues (red) (b) Scrutiny reservations (yellow) 3)Post-validation issues 4)Next steps Overview

20 WLTP-DTP-13 Tokyo, 21./22.03.2013 DTP Subgroup LabProcICE slide 20 Vehicle test mass / inertia / aerodynamic features / tyre selection (items 2 - 8) Agreed: - test mass approach (interpolation TM h /TM l ) - stepless inertia (rounded to next kg, tolerance at dyno: 10 kg) In principle agreed: General concept how to include aerodynamic features and tyres  Drafting Task Force established Still scrutiny reservation on aspects (Japan)  new open issues might rise up during drafting

21 WLTP-DTP-13 Tokyo, 21./22.03.2013 DTP Subgroup LabProcICE slide 21 Aspects to be confirmed: Movable body parts “… shall operate during road load determination as intended under wltc test conditions (temperature, speed, accelerations, no road inclination...)” Payload factors Based on Document WLTP-DTP-13-06 – Joint compromise proposal.ppt from EU, Japan, Korea (and support of T&E): Categories 1-1 / 1-2: 15% Category 2: 28 %

22 WLTP-DTP-13 Tokyo, 21./22.03.2013 DTP Subgroup LabProcICE slide 22 Handling of multimode / default mode definition (items 33 / 34) Solution 1: CO 2 /FE: test vehicle in default mode. If there is no default mode  average best and worst case Default mode definition: “The default mode is defined as a single mode which is always selected when the vehicle is switched on regardless of the operating mode selected when the vehicle was previously shut down. The mode used for the default must not be able to be redefined by the customer / dealer. Selectable shift lever design: The position appeared initially to drive the vehicle forward, after started the engine. (In case of [P-R-N-D-S-L], D is default mode.)”

23 WLTP-DTP-13 Tokyo, 21./22.03.2013 DTP Subgroup LabProcICE slide 23 Solution 1: supported by Japan and India, but objections from EU Solution 2: Average best and worst case, no default mode requirement  Not representative. Weighted averaging based on survey data instead?

24 WLTP-DTP-13 Tokyo, 21./22.03.2013 DTP Subgroup LabProcICE slide 24 Temperature setpoint and tolerances (items 14 / 15) Solution 1: Setpoint: 23 °C Tolerances: Soak: ± 3 °C (5 min average) Test start: ± 3 °C (1 Hz values) Test cell:± 5 °C (1 Hz values) Note: Test start tolerance only accepted with start condition of vehicle = setpoint ± 2 °C  depends on soak procedure approach

25 WLTP-DTP-13 Tokyo, 21./22.03.2013 DTP Subgroup LabProcICE slide 25 Tyre conditioning (RLD) (item 9) Solution 1: The tyres used for the test shall: not be older than 2 years after production date, not be specially conditioned or treated (e.g. heated or aged), with the exception of grinding in the original shape of the tread. have a constant tread depth between 100 and 80 per cent of the original tread depth over the full tread width of the tyre. be run-in on road for at least 200 km before road load determination. Note: wording in OIT was revised based on LabProcICE-197rev1 by NL

26 WLTP-DTP-13 Tokyo, 21./22.03.2013 DTP Subgroup LabProcICE slide 26 Use of on-board anemometry (RLD) (item 13) Solution 1: Keep method in gtr (derived from ISO standard)  Former reservation from India withdrawn? __________________________________________________________ Vehicle run-in mileage (RLD) (item 32) Solution 1: 10000 – 80000 km. Vehicles with min. mileage of 3000 km (on request of the manufacturer)  Scrutiny reservation from Japan

27 WLTP-DTP-13 Tokyo, 21./22.03.2013 DTP Subgroup LabProcICE slide 27 1)State of the working progress 2)Open issues table (a) Open issues (red) (b) Scrutiny reservations (yellow) 3)Post-validation issues 4)Next steps Overview

28 WLTP-DTP-13 Tokyo, 21./22.03.2013 DTP Subgroup LabProcICE slide 28 Possible issues for post-validation GSI handling Monitoring of RCB of all batteries (correction procedure) Handling of aerodynamic options within test mass approach Normalization methods Effects of mode construction …

29 WLTP-DTP-13 Tokyo, 21./22.03.2013 DTP Subgroup LabProcICE slide 29 1)State of the working progress 2)Open issues table (a) Open issues (red) (b) Scrutiny reservations (yellow) 3)Post-validation issues 4)Next steps Overview

30 WLTP-DTP-13 Tokyo, 21./22.03.2013 DTP Subgroup LabProcICE slide 30 Next steps DC drafting sessions f2f-Workshop in Berlin:24. / 25. April 2013 phone/web conferences

31 WLTP-DTP-13 Tokyo, 21./22.03.2013 DTP Subgroup LabProcICE slide 31 Thanks for your attention. LabProcICE contact: Béatrice Lopez de Rodas - beatrice.lopez(at)utac.com Konrad Kolesa - konrad.kolesa(at)audi.de Markus Bergmann – markus.bergmann(at)audi.de Stephan Redmann – stephan.redmann(at)bmvbs.bund.de


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