1. Health and Safety Executive Health and Safety Executive PACE & INTERVIEWS Diane Etchell HSE Tim Hedland (Volunteer Suspect!)

2. AIMS & Objectives A brief understanding of interviews and PACE 1. Background information 2. An accident 3. Circumstances 4. Next steps of the process

3. Background Manufacturing company - 65 employees Main activity, light engineering Maintenance staff of 3 1. Steve the Maintenance Manager 2. Paul the maintenance chap 3. Neil the 17yr old trainee plumber

4. Circumstances Steve on holiday and Paul was busy. Tim the MD asked (TOLD) the trainee, Neil, to investigate a loss of pressure on the cold water system.

5. The next we knew……… The 17 yr old trainee had stepped off a fixed gantry onto a fragile ceiling to reach part of a cold water system. This gave way and he fell approx 22 foot He suffered a fractured skull, 2 fractures to right collarbone, 3 fractured lumbar vertebrae and, internal bruising

6. Investigation process Visit to determine what had happened To identify control measures Internal investigation? Statements (Type, Who, Documents) Specialist assistance? Young person

7. All roads lead to TIM ARE WE SUSPICIOUS OF TIM?? IS HE A SUSPECT??

8. PACE Interview Choice of dates Legal representation Explanation of procedure Tapes Caution Free to leave at any time Everyone identified on tape

9. PACE interview Tim’s details and, representation Confirm company and employees Confirm accident / step by step What arrangements were in place during Steve’s holiday? Did he really ask/tell Neil to identify the leak? Why Neil and not Paul? Did he give other instructions?

10. Bamboo shoots under the nails….. Was it normal for Tim to allocate maintenance jobs? What training had Neil had? Why was there no risk assessments nor safe working practices written? Would access equipment be normally used in this area? Anything to add?

11. And Finally….. Any mitigation Copy of tape Confirmation that interview is part of the investigation