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1 One Rank One Pension Without Tears for you and all the tears for Veterans

2 Scope of Coverage Definition History Frequently asked Questions
Few Discriminations

3 DEFINITION (as accepted by parliament)
OROP implies that uniform pension be paid to the Armed Forces personnel retiring in the same rank with the same length of service, irrespective of their date of retirement, and any future enhancement in the rates of Pension to be automatically passed on to the past pensioners

4 HISTORY Roman emperor Augustus started the tradition of military pensions in 13 BC by guaranteeing life pensions to every legionary who fought 20 years for Rome. It set the bar for all modern armies and independent India continued the British tradition of financially privileging military service till 1973, when as a gift for the performance of the armed forces in 1971 war the 3 rd pay commission reduced our pensions. The armed forces were getting higher pension than civilians till 1973 Defence forces whose pension was based rank wise had to face reduction from 70% of last pay drawn to 50% where as civil servants went up from 33 % to 50%.

5 This kind of discrimination started soon after independence when Nehru first wanted to disband the armed forces and stated that he will manage with police. But when that did not work out thanks to Pakistan, he wanted to import a British General as Chief of Indian Army as according to him Indian officers did not have adequate experience. It is thanks to a brave general who suggested we also import a Prime Minister since none of the politicians had any experience of running the country that the matter was dropped. Nehru was so anti defence forces that he took it upon himself to evict the then COAS from his official residence Teen Murti Marg and the chief had to pitch a tent in army grounds and stay there.

6 Taking advantage of the attitude of Nehru and what was happening in Pakistan then, the civil service convinced the politicians that army will take over the country and took over control of the Armed Forces. Whilst services accept civil control it does not mean bureaucratic control. May I ask you all who do you think is responsible for the defence of the country?????? Well surprisingly it is the defence Secretary and not the armed forces chiefs.

7 So with this kind of attitude towards the forces it is not surprising that there has been resistance to OROP which was actually sanctioned in 1983 but never implemented. The bureaucrats went to the extent of stating “OROP Over our dead body “ Incidentally OROP is coined by a Committee appointed by Mrs. Indira Gandhi under the Chairmanship of Brig K P Singh Deo. It is only in 2009 after the discrimination against defence reached its nadir, post 6 th Pay commission that the demand for implementation of this long standing sanction has been intensified.

8 Frequently asked Questions
Is the demand about Money? No The fight for equal pensions is at its heart a proxy battle for what we see as restoring our lost `izzat', for getting what we see as our rightful place in the civil-military balance where political control of the military has translated into bureaucratic control.

9 What did the Koshiyari Committee say?
Page 14 of the report states “There is merit in the demand for One Rank One Pension by Armed Forces Personnel, otherwise the matter would not have been considered time and again by various committees of the Government and Central Pay Commissions. It could have been rejected once and for all and principle of res judicata (a matter already judged)would have been applied to this demand” 1973 first considered by 3rd CPC, 1986 considered again by 4th CPC 1991 considered by Sharad Pawar committee 1996 considered again by 5th CPC 2003 considered by Inter-Ministerial Committee 2005 considered by Group of Ministers 2006 considered by 6th CPC

10 Do Foreign countries have OROP
The UK has embraced one-rank-one pension for soldiers. Our two biggest strategic challenges, Pakistan and China have of course always privileged their military. What is the Annual Outlay needed to implement OROP? During 2011 a Rajya Sabha Parliamentary Committee (Koshiyari Committee) was assembled to study all manifestations of OROP. They interviewed and heard all stake holders, including Veteran Organizations and MoD and Ministry of Finance. The Ministerial inputs from the last two quoted figures of approx Rs 3500 cr. The figures worked out by the RM on a simple calculator were Rs 8300 to 8600 cr which finally worked out to Rs 8293 cr. Before the RM took charge of his bureaucrats he was fed figures from 1300 cr to cr to create a scare of finance shortage.

11 Why some JCO/Or are saying the demand is officer centric?
This is a myth being spread by people to split the veterans community. Some JCO /OR are raising demands that are not related to OROP .The demands may be valid but are being mixed up with OROP to delay the implementation. Let us look at the table that shows who will gain how much and the myth will be exposed purely from OROP point of view .

12 Table Showing % age increase Rank wise wef 01.01.2006 to grant of OROP
Pension as on circular 397 Pension as on per circular 500/501/5002 Pension based on DGL as known to IESM Over all % gain since Over all % gain since Sep QS 15 yrs Gr Y 4035 5102 8365 107 64 Hav QS 17 Yrs Gr Y 4498 5301 9625 114 82 Sub Maj QS 25 Yrs Gp Y 9812 14405 47 Hon Lt QS 28 Yrs 13500 15465 17130 27 11 Maj QS 25 Yrs 14100 18205 32526 131 79 Lt Col (S) QS20 Yrs 21028 21490 32490 55 51 Col QS 26 Yrs 26050 27795 35275 35 Brig QS 28 Yrs 26150 29145 37255 42 28 Maj Gen QS 28 yrs 24566 41500 69 Widows of 3500 5646 61 5958 70 4830 9612 99 8100 10278 8460 10923 19977 136 83 15420 15759 20589 34 31 15630 16677 23319 49 40 15690 17487 23421 15390 18210 24900 62 37 Note : 1. All JCO and below(Except Hon Ranks and Sub Maj/Sub) got an increase in 2009 as well 2. Ranks upto Hav and Maj will gain the most as they had been subject to total injustice so far

13 What do the Raksha Mantri say about implementation?
Arun Jaitly: He said no shortage of money for OROP, but asked the ESM to lower their expectations???, meaning accept change in definition as accepted by various committees of Parliament. He went on to suggest his intent to refer the matter to a Tribunal to reconcile differences between the Service Hq and MoD. Such delaying tactics would obviously place the OROP into a long Cold Storage, in line with MoD tactics of attrition though delay. He also states there are many definitions of OROP Manohar Parrikar: Initially declared that OROP needs a complicated formula to be worked and it can't be treated as a dynamic thing .However later he understood the issue and of late has said that he has done his work correctly and the file is with FM. Clearly indicating his having thrown up his hands vis a vis the FM

14 Is the complexity of OROP the only factor holding up the issue?
In fact there is no complexity in OROP It is a myth being created by those who wish to sabotage the BJP promise of OROP by Stating others will ask for it. None can as the terms of service condition are not same. The one time amount required is high .The figure given is cr. Fully proved to be wrong by RM himself. Will be referred to 7 PC. Not a part of 7 CPC Charter. There can be different definitions. There is only one definition approved by parliament. The annual increment of .85% will increase the annual load on budget. Let us look at this aspect with care in the next slide.

15 Is OROP imminently affordable?
It must be clarified that the current defence pension expenditure of Rs 54,500 crores ( ) also includes defence civilians who approximately number 400,000. The perceived exponential rise in pension bill needs to be put in the correct perspective. The figure would rise in absolute numbers of course but when viewed as a percentage of the nation’s GDP, the expenditure on defence pension shows an overall declining trend as the table below will illustrate: The defence pensions as a percentage of GDP thus shows a clear long term declining trend despite an absolute rise in numbers (the spike in was due to payment of arrears for years 2006, 2007 and 2008 after the award of the 6th pay commission).

16 Now why does the military have higher number of pensioners as compared to their civilian counterparts? Simple. The nation needs a young army and therefore soldiers are recruited young and retired early (most of them between years). On the contrary, all non-military government employees (including jawans of the Central Armed Police Forces—CAPFs) have the luxury of serving till the age of 60. The ratio of pensioners to serving personnel in the military is thus 1.7:1 as against 0.56:1 among the civilians. But that’s the price the nation needs to pay for maintaining a standing army. Had the long-standing recommendations for lateral absorption of this vast, disciplined and ready made pool of manpower in various non-military organisations been implemented, perhaps the pension bill could have been reduced but that has not happened because of lack of political will and bureaucratic resistance.

17 There is one more reason why the military pension bill will further reduce in terms of percentage of the GDP: All civilians in defence ministry who joined service on or after 1 January 2004, have now come under the ambit of the contributory National Pension Scheme (NPS). Soldiers unfortunately cannot be brought under the ambit of the NPS because of their short service span. The benefit of NPS, it should be noted, accrues over a long span of time (30 years or more) deriving the benefit from the power of compounding the accrued amount!

18 How pension Bill will actually decline?
Bunching Effect Will Peter Out. Bunching implies same salary, and hence pension, for a particular rank even with different years of service, despite the Running Pay Band System introduced by 6th Central Pay Commission—CPC--(salary increases automatically with three per cent annual increment in Running Pay Band System; hence higher salary for higher number of years of service).

19 How pension Bill will actually decline?
Experts say another way to comprehend the declining financial implication of annual review is to draw an analogy from the ‘Damping Out’ of a Sinusoidal Wave.  Unless there is an external impulse, the sinusoidal wave gets damped out.  Similarly, as Bunching Effect and other anomalies exit the system of pay and pensions, with no external impulse (i.e, change in terms and conditions of service), the additional financial implications of annual review of OROP will continuously reduce and in steady state will be almost zero.  

20 How pension Bill will actually decline?
Theoretically, if there are 300 Cells in the OROP table (10 Ranks as Column Heads, 30 Qualifying Service as Row Heads) and all 300 Cells are to be enhanced by one and half per cent next year, the additional financial implication will still be capped at one and half per cent.  However, actually only few Cells may change through annual review of OROP tables and additional financial implication of each Cell may range from 0 to 1.5% approximately.  Hence, overall additional financial implications will be much lower than 1.5% It was actually mathematically computed as 0.85 % using CGDA (Comptroller General, Defence Accounts) data for JCOs/OR.

21 How will the OROP be implemented?

22 Defence Minister has stated that OROP will be implemented soon
Defence Minister has stated that OROP will be implemented soon. So, why is IESM protesting for non implementation of OROP? Dont' you trust the PM? RM? We have high hopes and regard for our PM. We believe him. Yet, we are very skeptical of and have experienced the machinations of the Indian Bureaucracy, particularly the MoD. They are old hands at scuttling any move by the Legislative and any rulings by the Judiciary that favors or uplifts the conditions of the Faujis. One e.g ‘Maj Gen Vains case’ the Supreme Court (SC) ruling did restore his pension to be marginally above Brigadiers but less than the Maj Generals who retired after 2006, was a grudging saving grace. However, the ignominy continued because the government did not implement the full SC ruling which actually amounted to OROP.In the last hearing the Gov rep stated OROP will be implemented in 3 months and that was in Mar 2015.The appeal in this case has been thrown out by SC on 07 Jul 2015 Given the reality of veterans being close to ‘passing on’, the issue of OROP assumes great expediency.

23 Why the lack of Trust? The Koshiyari committee recommendations submitted in 2011 were ignored till February 2014 to the detriment of the UPA, but where was the vocal BJP on the issue of OROP when it stalled the Parliament for several weeks and months on other issues? If the BJP did mention OROP in Parliament as often as the impression is being conveyed, there must be something on the record of Parliament after How has the OROP fared from 2004 in Parliament? Here is the data available on the internet though Lok Sabha and Rajya Sabha websites and only the following information was available (Pls try and keep track of BJP members questions): -

24 Why the lack of Trust? 08 Dec 2004 – Shri Prabhunath Singh (RJD) raises a query but is absent (details not available) 28 Apr 2005 – Dr Col (retd) Dhani Ram Shandil (Shimla - INC) raises a question (details of reply not available) 18 Aug 2006 – Shri Kishan Singh Sanghwan (BJP (1) deceased 2012) raises a question and Shri B K Handique, MoS Defence (UPA) replies that OROP is not possible due financial, administrative, and legal reasons as recommended by a Committee of Secretaries 23 Aug 2007 – Shri P K Dhumal (BJP 2) raises a question (details of reply not available) 26 Feb 2009 – Shri Karan Singh Yadav (Alwar - INC) raises a question (details of reply not available)

25 Why the lack of Trust? 21 Aug 2010 – Shri Pratap Singh Bajwa (Gurdaspur – INC) raises a question (details of reply not available) 25 Aug 2010 – Shri Arun Jaitley (BJP) – Non-implementation of OROP by Govt (in his tenures in Rajya Sabha from Feb 2009 to Feb 2014; 08 Jul 2014 - The principle of One Rank One Pension for the Armed Forces has been accepted by the Government. The modalities for implementation were discussed with various stakeholders and are presently under consideration of the Government. It will be implemented once the modalities are approved by the Government. This information was given by Minister of State for Defence Rao Inderjit Singh (BJP)in a written reply to Dr T Subbarami Reddy in Rajya Sabha on July 8, 2014. 

26 Why the lack of Trust?  08 Nov The principle of One Rank One Pension for the Armed forces has been accepted by the Government. The modalities for implementation were discussed with various stakeholders and are presently under consideration of the Government. It will be implemented once the modalities are approved by the Government. No Budget was allocated for the purpose in the Budget  Total number of beneficiaries for OROP will be known once the modalities are approved. This information was given by Minister of State for Defence Rao Inderjit Singh (BJP) in a written reply to Shri Hukum Singh and others in Lok Sabha today. This is after 3 months and if beneficiaries were not known how did the government state various figures? Were they bluffing?

27 Why the lack of Trust? 25 Nov 2014 – Statement in respect of Para (a) to (c) of Rajya Sabha Starred Question No. 31 for regarding implementation of One Rank One Pension: Reply (a) to (c): The principle of One Rank One Pension for the Armed Forces has been accepted by the Government. The modalities for implementation were discussed with various stakeholders and are presently under consideration of the Government. It will be implemented once the modalities are approved by the Government. How long does it take? It took present RM two months to sort out. Last week RM said all issues have been sorted out and offered to meet Veterans on 07 Jul and later 08 Jul but did not meet as scheduled. Veterans will not seek any further appointments with government. The onus is now on them to call veterans for a meeting.

28 Why the lack of Trust? The latest salvo by the Bureaucrats is the removal of Local Purchase powers from Local Medical Officers. So that now a patient needing a life saving drug if not available in Military Hospital has to either buy it or wait for some Bureaucrat known a IFA to approve it to be used if he is still alive when the approval comes. What an ingenious way to control the defence? ECHS can any way be a separate case for presentation to you.

29 Few Discriminations Type of Allowance Civilian Employee Faujis
Disabled Employees Protection of Service Pay and Allowances Pension Right to life of dignity of self and family Govt has to retain them till 60 yrs under Disability Act Full protection under Section 47 of the Act. Will not be discharged on account of disability. Full pay and allowances admissible till the age of 60 even if unable to attend any official duty. Can even be kept on supernumerary post and paid all pay and allowances. Entitled to full service length till superannuation and pension thereafter. Full pay and pension and complete Government protection/cover with entitled facilities Admissible to dependents Invalided (Thrown) out of service immediately Defence Forces exempted from operation of Section 47. Hence no protection of employment available in case of disability. Employee can be discharged on account of disability. Nil Admissible Nil. No facilities or protection for self and dependents

30 Increase in Pension of highest rank employee from 1973 to 2006
108 times Highest Civilian Functionary Pension Rs /-pm Rs 45000/-pm 45 times Highest Def Rank Pension Rs 1000/-pm Rs 45000/-pm Period of Service Upto60 years of age 85% compulsorily retired between years age. 12-13% compulsorily retired between years age Career Progression Three Promotions at 10,20,30 years of service Three promotion at 8, 16, 24 years of service. 85% compulsorily retired at years’ service; thereby denied 3rd career progression Officer’s Promotion opportunities 100% Joint Secy at years’ Service 100% Addl Secy at 32 years’ Service 1% Maj Gen at years of service. 3% Lt Gen 33-35years Non-functional Upgradtion (NFU) JS Pay at approx22 yrs. Addl Secy Pay at 32yrs Nil Support of Heath Care Per member approx Rs 10000/-

31 Who are getting OROP already?
Top five ranks in the army comprise only 10% of the officer strength. Contrast this with the civil services where entire batches become Joint Secretaries. Thus with majority entitled to NFFU they are getting OROP.

32 Let me quote extracts from a mail from Col Karan Kharb after his visit to Jantar Mantar “I learnt that Ram Chander (60) a teacher in Jhunjunu (Rajasthan) was planning to commit suicide either by hanging from the tree or by self-immolating himself. Why? Because his son - a Hav in a Grenadiers unit had sacrificed his life in a terrorist encounter in Kupwara (J&K) in 2012 leaving behind three younger siblings, a daughter and a son. "Why are you so angry. Your daughter-in-law must be getting "full last drawn salary" of your son which is much higher than any family pension rate? You are not even affected by OROP.“

33 Kya baat kar rahe ho aap? Mera beta apne ghar walon ke liye Kupwara mein jakar marne gaya tha kya? Nahin Sahb wo desh ke liye qurban hua hai. Mera dil aaj saari Fauj ke liye ro raha hai. Yeh Neta, ye Tehsildar se lekar Chief Secretary tak ke officer log loot machaye hue hain. Udhar Jo sainik desh ki sarhadon par khun bahakar ya to mar jate hain ya pension aa jate hain -- aur yeh unka haq nahin de rahe. OROP jise koi bhi nakar bhi nahi raha lekin de bhi nain raha. Aise desh mein mein jeena hi nahi chahta.mein.....Iss se to angrezon ki ghulami achchi thi....."

34 What Next? UFESM has decided that 1000 widows will sign a petition to the PM and if OROP is not implemented thereafter they will send him Bangles as he is not able to take charge of his bureaucrats unlike Mrs Sonia Gandhi who even though not in the government was able to push through food security bill. Further peaceful escalations will follow till OROP is granted. However it must be noted that the anger against the government is palpable as can be seen from a few incidents of Rasta Roko and burning of effigies.The government is sitting on an volcano The UFESM will not be responsible if the volcano actually erupts and violence is resorted to by some elements

35 To join agitation soon

36 What may happen in future?
Ambala Protest

37 Bathinda-Chandigarh highway

38 85 Years Young widow in support of Hunger Strike
85 Years Young widow in support of Hunger Strike. This may change to fast unto death.

39 A business once said he works as hard as the Army men.
Let us see if we get an answer in the next slide.

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41 To sum up From the Finance Minister statement in the Economic Times of 05 May 2015,we know that “Tax exemptions and incentives to corporate have resulted in a revenue impact of Rs 62,398.6 cr. to the exchequer in , 8 per cent higher than the previous fiscal. In a written reply to a question in the Rajya Sabha , Finance Minister Arun Jetly said the details of revenue impact on central taxes due to various concessions and exemptions have been detailed in the Budget document for ” but the same Minister is baulking at giving Rs 8300 crores as estimated by the Defence Minister for OROP. So it is the FM with his Congress mind set who is the stumbling block in implementation of OROP and his intentions were clear from the meager allocation in his budgets knowing fully well the actual financial implications. How do we trust when the PM says he has four more years to implement OROP? Is he buying time to once again fool the ESM till next elections?

42 Any questions are welcome
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