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Persistent Non-Symbolic Experience in Adults Jeffery A. Martin Center for the Study of Non-Symbolic Consciousness And Harvard University
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What is Persistent Non-Symbolic Experience (PNSE)?
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‘Gold standard’ self report measures – Example: Batch 1 - Modified M-Scale, DES2, STAI, SWLS, BFI, TAS, and Modified MUMEX In-depth interviews (6-12+ hours) – Focused on Cognition, Affect, Memory and Perception – Extracting and refining testable psychological claims from self reports Example: “Loss of self” …what does this actually mean? Clearly talking to someone who’s saying “I did X” Physiological measurement – HRV, SPV, breath, etc. – EEG, fMRI, … – DNA, blood, and other bio soon… Approach
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Super achievers => broke and homeless Mostly religious or spiritual Age range late teens to mid-nineties Globally dispersed (we only track English speakers, but come across many others) Generally educated Skewed toward men Various races but our sample is skewed towards Caucasians Basically, if I put you in a room with a mix of people who report this and people who don’t, it would be very unlikely that you could tell the difference from just observing them interact Participants
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PNSE Continuum Location 1 Location 2 Location 3Location 4 Locations actually represent regions that have sub-locations with them Sub-locations are grouped within locations for convenience Some people stay in one spot, others move Generally a forward progression but not always
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PNSE Continuum - Expansion of sense of self, connection to divine - Much less affected by ‘self’ thoughts - Distance from but still have positive and negative emotions - Deep peace but can be suppressed by triggered conditioning - Effects from perceptual triggers fall off quickly - Deep peace and beingness feels more real than anything previous - Trust in ‘how things are’ - Personal history less relevant, memories less Location 1
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PNSE Continuum - ‘Self’ thoughts continue to fade - Peace increasingly harder to suppress/conditioning fades - Shift towards increasingly positive emotions, until only very positive emotions remain - Intermediate levels of perceptual triggers increasingly fade - More likely to feel that there is a correct decision or path to take when presented with choices - Higher well-being than location one Location 2 Location 3Location 4Location 1
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PNSE Continuum - Only single positive emotion remains - Feels like a combination of universal compassion, love, joy, … - Higher well-being than location 2 Location 1 Location 2 Location 3Location 4
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PNSE Continuum - ‘Self’ thoughts continue to fade - Peace increasingly harder to suppress/conditioning fades - Shift towards increasingly positive emotions, until only very positive emotions remain - Intermediate levels of perceptual triggers increasingly fade - More likely to feel that there is a correct decision or path to take when presented with choices - Higher well-being than location one - Expansion of sense of self, connection to divine - Much less affected by ‘self’ thoughts - Distance from but still have positive and negative emotions - Deep peace but can be suppressed by triggered conditioning - Effects from perceptual triggers fall off quickly - Deep peace and ‘beingness feels more real than anything previous - Trust in ‘how things are’ - Personal history less relevant, memories less - No sense of agency - No emotions - No ‘self’ thoughts - Perceptual triggers at their bare minimum - No sense of divine or universal consciousness - life was simply unfolding and they were watching the process happen - Memory deficits/scheduled appointments, etc. - Highest well-being reported - Only single positive emotion remains - Feels like a combination of universal compassion, love, joy, … - Higher well-being than location 2 Location 1 Location 2 Location 3Location 4
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Other interesting data…
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You May be Surprised That… No effects for: – “Spiritual Practice” – Hallucinogenic Drugs – Exposure to “Guru’s” Psychologically “normal” – keep same preferences, hobbies, etc. Unable to be differentiated in crowd (or work, family, etc.) Dogmatic Divorce Morality, Health Behaviors, … Body Disassociation 24/7 Awareness and Anesthesia Claims of Truth – they can be primed, conditioned, … Stress, physical illness can knock it out
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Getting There…
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fMRI rt-fMRI sEEG MEG Narrow AI Home Bio-feedback PNSE Applied Research - Feedback
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fMRI rt-fMRI sEEG MEG tDCS T/FUS Home Unit PNSE Applied Research - Stimulation
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Recent Experiment Best practices Combined based on data Taught by best people in each area 4 months 2 classes – 1 course 6 participants – 3 men, 3 women – high, med, low well-being – 1 man did not successfully complete the program
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Recent Experiment NSE – Location 1 = 1 person – Location 2 = 1 person Measures – STAI, STRESS, PILL, M-Scale, NETI, AHI, CES-D, FEQ, GHS, PNAS, Gratitude, Optimism, Meaning, ATH, SWLS – In ‘positive’ direction across subjects
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SWLS Jan-14May-14 3234 2535 1225 3135 2833 5-35
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STAI Y-1 (Current Anxiety) Jan-14May-14 6580 5572 7780 6880 20-80
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M-Scale Jan-14May-14 109134 88133 160 114160 90146 32-160
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Toughest Case… Jan-14May-14Max STAI Y-1 (Anxiety Now)557280 STAI Y-2 (Anxiety Persist.)447180 Stress2840 MNETI (PNSE)6784120 AHI (Overall Happiness)2.043.55 CES-D (Depression)2580 GHS (Enduring Happiness)3.255.257 SWLS (Wellbeing)122535 FEQ (% Time Happy)2065100
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Another Example Jan-14May-14Max STAI Y-1 (Anxiety Now)6880 STAI Y-2 (Anxiety Persist.)657980 Stress1630 MNETI (PNSE)71103120 AHI (Overall Happiness)3.134.385 M-Scale90146160 GHS (Enduring Happiness)4.56.757 SWLS (Wellbeing)283335 FEQ (% Time Happy)6599100 CES-D (Depression)1010
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Thank You! Paper at: nonsymbolic.org/PNSE-Article.pdf Email: jeffery.a.martin@gmail.com
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