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TGs Process, May Date: 2006-05-17 Authors: May 2007 May 2007
doc.: IEEE P /0677r2 May 2007 TGs Process, May Date: Authors: Notice: This document has been prepared to assist IEEE It is offered as a basis for discussion and is not binding on the contributing individual(s) or organization(s). The material in this document is subject to change in form and content after further study. The contributor(s) reserve(s) the right to add, amend or withdraw material contained herein. Release: The contributor grants a free, irrevocable license to the IEEE to incorporate material contained in this contribution, and any modifications thereof, in the creation of an IEEE Standards publication; to copyright in the IEEE’s name any IEEE Standards publication even though it may include portions of this contribution; and at the IEEE’s sole discretion to permit others to reproduce in whole or in part the resulting IEEE Standards publication. The contributor also acknowledges and accepts that this contribution may be made public by IEEE Patent Policy and Procedures: The contributor is familiar with the IEEE 802 Patent Policy and Procedures < ieee802.org/guides/bylaws/sb-bylaws.pdf>, including the statement "IEEE standards may include the known use of patent(s), including patent applications, provided the IEEE receives assurance from the patent holder or applicant with respect to patents essential for compliance with both mandatory and optional portions of the standard." Early disclosure to the Working Group of patent information that might be relevant to the standard is essential to reduce the possibility for delays in the development process and increase the likelihood that the draft publication will be approved for publication. Please notify the Chair as early as possible, in written or electronic form, if patented technology (or technology under patent application) might be incorporated into a draft standard being developed within the IEEE Working Group. If you have questions, contact the IEEE Patent Committee Administrator at Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
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May 2007 doc.: IEEE P /0677r2 May 2007 Abstract Slides for discussion of the IEEE TGs process in getting through Working Group Letter Ballot and Beyond. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
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Mesh Networking Task Group Process
May 2007 doc.: IEEE P /0677r2 May 2007 Mesh Networking Task Group Process TGs Motto: “Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away.” Donald E. Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
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Process of Getting to Letter Ballot and Beyond
May 2007 doc.: IEEE P /0677r2 May 2007 Process of Getting to Letter Ballot and Beyond Completed Steps | Future Steps Adoption of PAR and 5 Criteria Technical Presentations and Discussions Specify Any Additional Requirements, Comparison Criteria, or Other Documents Call For Proposals Presentation of Proposals Select from Submitted Complete Proposals to Produce a Draft Refine Draft 1st Letter Ballot – November 2006 – Fails Revise Draft – Resolve comments 2nd Letter Ballot – July 2007(?) Recirculation Sponsor Ballot – May 2008(?) Final WG/EC Approval IEEE SB REVCOM Approval Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
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Process for Developing Submissions and Comment Resolutions
May 2007 Process for Developing Submissions and Comment Resolutions You can not have a half way official body in While it is hard to cover all contingencies in a concise statement, there are generally two choices for work: TGs can have regular sessions at meetings and can have ad hoc meetings and teleconferences in accordance with the rules with the required prior notice to all members and minutes published afterwards. It can also break into subgroups during such official meetings, the notice and minutes requirements generally being met by the notice and minutes of the TGs meeting. One or more individual members can develop submissions or comment resolutions. TGs can not, in general, direct how they meet or communicate. They can not claim their submission / group has any special status. Participation in specific informal efforts of this sort should not be solicited at official meetings or on official teleconferences or mailing lists. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
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Process for Refining Draft
May 2007 Process for Refining Draft Letter Ballot on Draft D1.0 authorized at November 2006 meeting. Approval rate on Letter Ballot #93 was 48.12% so it failed. (This is not unusual. Most Drafts fail the first Letter Ballot and some fail two or three times before they pass.) 5,703 comments received (including 192 on apparently invalid ballots). 10 more comments added at January meeting. Task group voted to proceed based on Draft D1.0 and to consider all comments for resolution. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
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Advantages/Disadvantages of Passing/Failing Letter Ballot
May 2007 Advantages/Disadvantages of Passing/Failing Letter Ballot Advantages Disadvantages Passing Letter Ballot You enter “re-circulation” so subsequent votes are 15 days and voters can only add comment each time on parts of the Draft that have changed or been affected by changes. The voting pool is fixed and no new people joining can vote. You must resolve every comment by a ¾ vote. You can only change the draft through the resolution of comments. Failing Letter Ballot You are free to make whatever changes in the Draft the task group wants. Your next Letter Ballot must be at least 30 days and will include everyone in the Working Group at that time and they can comment on any part of the Draft. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
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3 Cycles of Comments and Resolution
May 2007 3 Cycles of Comments and Resolution Call for Informal Comments Comment Resolution Comment Resolution WG Letter Ballot / Recirculation Sponsor Ballot / Recirculation Comment Resolution Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
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Comments Resolved at the London Meeting (January)
May 2007 Comments Resolved at the London Meeting (January) Overall Summary Total Open Closed %Closed Editorial Comments: 2,841 646 2,195 77.26% Technical Comments: 2,872 2,066 806 28.06% Total Comments: 5,713 2,712 3,001 52.53% Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
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Comments Resolved at the Orlando Meeting (March)
May 2007 Comments Resolved at the Orlando Meeting (March) Overall Summary Total Open Closed %Closed Editorial Comments: 2,475 7 2,468 99.72% Technical Comments: 3,284 1,410 1,828 56.45% Total Comments: 5,713 1,417 4,296 75.20% Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
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Schedule Projected at Orlando, Florida (March) Meeting
May 2007 doc.: IEEE P /0677r2 May 2007 Schedule Projected at Orlando, Florida (March) Meeting March 2007 (Orlando, Florida) Comment Resolution May 2007 (Montreal, Quebec) July 2007 (San Francisco, California) Comment Resolution, Second Letter Ballot authorized September 2007 (Waikoloa, Hawai‘i) November 2007 (Atlanta, Georgia) First Letter Ballot Re-circulation January 2008 (Sydney, New South Wales) Second Letter Ballot Re-circulation March 2008 (tbd) Third Letter Ballot Re-circulation May 2008 (Jacksonville, Florida) Sponsor Ballot Authorization by WG Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
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Possible Multi-Meeting Process Flow
May 2007 doc.: IEEE P /0677r2 May 2007 Possible Multi-Meeting Process Flow Mar. Meeting Orlando, Florida May Meeting Montreal, Quebec July Meeting SanFranciscoCalifornia Eindhoven Ad Hoc Meeting Hillsboro Ad Hoc Meeting Complete Comment Resolution? Comment Resolution Comment Resolution Comment Resolution and Agenda Telecons Comment Resolution and Agenda Telecons Drafts D1.02+ Drafts D1.04+ Draft D2.0? Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
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Schedule Projected at Montreal, Quebec (May) Meeting
doc.: IEEE P /0677r2 May 2007 Schedule Projected at Montreal, Quebec (May) Meeting May 2007 (Montreal, Quebec) Comment Resolution July 2007 (San Francisco, California) Comment Resolution, Second Letter Ballot authorized September 2007 (Waikoloa, Hawai‘i) November 2007 (Atlanta, Georgia) First Letter Ballot Re-circulation January 2008 (Taipei, Taiwan) Second Letter Ballot Re-circulation March 2008 (Orlando, Florida?) Third Letter Ballot Re-circulation May 2008 (Jacksonville, Florida) Sponsor Ballot Authorization by WG July 2008 (Denver, Colorado) Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
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July – San Francisco Meeting Schedule
May 2007 doc.: IEEE P /0677r2 May 2007 July – San Francisco Meeting Schedule Hours based on the 13 hours (5 regular sessions and 2 (90 minute) ad hoc sessions) we may get (compared with 24 hours in Montreal): 1 hr Opening Session: Administrivia, Minutes, Agenda, Process 11 hr Comment Resolution 1 hr Closing Session: Process, Teleconferences /Ad Hocs Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
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TGs Activity Between Meetings
May 2007 doc.: IEEE P /0677r2 May 2007 TGs Activity Between Meetings TGs Activities Between Meetings Requiring Notice: One or more face to face ad hoc meetings, requires 30 days notice (P&P clause 3.6.2). One or multiple Teleconferences, requires 10 days notice, not more often than weekly (P&P clause 3.6.3). Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
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TGs Activity Between Meetings, Previously Decided
May 2007 doc.: IEEE P /0677r2 May 2007 TGs Activity Between Meetings, Previously Decided Pre-approved ad hoc April in Eindhoven, Netherlands, to work on comment resolution. Pre-approved ad hoc June in Hillsboro, Oregon, to work on comment resolution. Teleconferences 10am Wednesdays Eastern US time for up to 1 ½ hours with the following primary topics: 28 March – comment resolution and Eindhoven meeting planning 4 April – comment resolution and Eindhoven meeting planning 18 April – General Area comments 25 April – Security Area comments 2 May – MAC Area comments and May meeting Agenda 9 May – RFI Area comments and May meeting Agenda 23 May – topic? Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
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TGs Activity Between Meetings, New
May 2007 TGs Activity Between Meetings, New Schedule a August ad hoc in case we do not go to Letter Ballot from the July meeting. Usually Tuesday through Thursday. Suggest September If we go to LB from July, work on new comments. If we don’t go to LB from July, continue work on LB#93 comments. Locations Kaua‘i, Hawai‘i. Schedule weekly teleconferences between May and July meetings, starting 30 May through 25 July, Wednesdays, except during the Hillsboro ad hoc and San Francisco meetings. Most of our teleconferences have been at 5pm US Eastern time on Wednesdays but the current sequence is at 10am. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
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TGs Activity Between Meetings, New
May 2007 TGs Activity Between Meetings, New Schedule weekly teleconferences between May and July meetings, starting 30 May through 25 July, Wednesdays, except during the Hillsboro ad hoc and San Francisco meetings. Most of our teleconferences have been at 5pm US Eastern time on Wednesdays but the current sequence is at 10am. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
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References Earlier TGs Process Submissions
May 2007 doc.: IEEE P /0677r2 May 2007 References Earlier TGs Process Submissions March 2007, 11-07/380r1, Orlando, Florida February 2007, 11-07/235r1, Hillsboro, Oregon (ad hoc) January 2007, 11-07/0059r2, London, England November 2006, 11-06/1753r2, Dallas Texas September 2006, 11-06/1386, Melbourne, Australia July 2006, 11-06/1028r2, San Diego, California June 2006, 11-06/840r2, Hillsboro, Oregon (ad hoc) March 2006, 11-06/340r1, Denver, Colorado January 2006, 11-06/130r1, Waikoloa, Hawai‘i November 2005, 11-05/1137r1, Vancouver, British Columbia September 2005, 11-05/878r1, Garden Grove, California 11-06/328r0, 11-06/329r3, Confirmed Proposal Draft P802.11s D1.03 11-07/23r30, LB#93 Comments Resolution Spreadsheet Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola
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