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1 Dec 2008 doc.: IEEE /0xxx Nov 2011 802.11aa –Robust Audio Video Transport Streaming Atlanta Opening Report Date: Authors: Graham Smith, DSP Group Graham Smith, DSP Group

2 Dec 2008 November 2007 September 2008 doc.: IEEE /2752r1 doc.: IEEE /1003r0 doc.: IEEE /0xxx Nov 2011 Abstract This submission summarizes TGaa goals and agenda for the IEEE Atlanta meeting (Nov 2011) Slide 2 Slide 2 Graham Smith, DSP Group Page 2 Page 2 Graham Smith, DSP Group Alex Ashley, NDS Ltd Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems

3 Goals Goals for the Meeting:
Dec 2008 doc.: IEEE /0xxx Nov 2011 Goals Goals for the Meeting: Review and Approve the Okinawa and Teleconferences meeting minutes Resolution of all Initial Sponsor Ballot comments Prepare for second Sponsor Ballot Joint meeting with 801.AVB TIME line of task group Plan for Jan & Teleconferences Slide 3 Graham Smith, DSP Group Graham Smith, DSP Group Bruce Kraemer (Marvell)

4 Opening Report Nov 2011 September 2008 November 2007 Dec 2008
doc.: IEEE /0xxx doc.: IEEE /2752r1 doc.: IEEE /1003r0 Nov 2011 Opening Report Slide 4 Slide 4 Graham Smith, DSP Group Page 4 Page 4 Graham Smith, DSP Group Alex Ashley, NDS Ltd Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems

5 Attendance Recording - 802.11
November 2007 September 2008 Dec 2008 doc.: IEEE /2752r1 doc.: IEEE /0xxx doc.: IEEE /1003r0 Nov 2011 Attendance Recording Sign-in at “newton” is a local server, not reachable via a VPN “newton” is active only during sessions First “sign in” to provide contact information Only name and affiliation may be posted publicly, as per IEEE rules No other personal information will be publicly available Second, log attendance Sign In Slide 5 Slide 5 Graham Smith, DSP Group Page 5 Page 5 Graham Smith, DSP Group Alex Ashley, NDS Ltd Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems

6 As a Courtesy To Others …
Dec 2008 September 2008 doc.: IEEE /1003r0 doc.: IEEE /0xxx Nov 2011 As a Courtesy To Others … PLEASE switch your Mobile Phones OFF, or to VIBRATE Alert, remember to MUTE your PC also please ! "Our thanks to all those people who now use Headsets !” The use of Audio and / or Video recording of any meeting is Specifically Prohibited as per the WG Policies and Procedures. This is mandated by the IEEE-SASB in the OpManual Still photography is only permitted by a public request and permission of the meeting membership via the WG Chair, and is not for commercial purposes, also mandated by IEEE-SASB in the OpManual Slide 6 Graham Smith, DSP Group Page 6 Graham Smith, DSP Group Alex Ashley, NDS Ltd

7 November 2007 September 2008 Dec 2008 doc.: IEEE /2752r1 doc.: IEEE /0xxx doc.: IEEE /1003r0 Nov 2011 802.11aa – Nov 2011 Policies and Procedures, Attendance reminder: **IEEE Patent Policy ***Affiliation FAQ - Anti-Trust FAQ - Ethics - IEEE Policies and Procedures - IEEE 802 Policies and Procedures - ** Read slide deck *** Note especially items #7 & #11 Slide 7 Slide 7 Graham Smith, DSP Group Page 7 Page 7 Graham Smith, DSP Group Alex Ashley, NDS Ltd Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems

8 TGaa Agenda Nov 2011 Monday AM1 Thursday AM1 – Joint with 802.1AVB
Dec 2008 September 2008 doc.: IEEE /1003r0 doc.: IEEE /0xxx Nov 2011 TGaa Agenda Monday AM1 Administrivia Welcome, Status, Review Approve agenda Comment Resolution Monday PM1 Discuss “Ping Pang” 11/1474r1 Tuesday PM2 Wednesday PM1 Agenda for joint Thursday AM1 – Joint with 802.1AVB Administrivia Approve agenda Status of 11aa Update on 802.1AVB Thursday PM2 COMPLETE Comment Resolution Approve Sponsor Ballot Recirculation Discuss Preparations for January meeting Old business New Business Graham Smith, DSP Group Page 8 Graham Smith, DSP Group Alex Ashley, NDS Ltd

9 Initial Sponsor Ballot
Nov 2011 Initial Sponsor Ballot 156 eligible people are in this ballot group.     106 affirmative votes     8 negative votes with comments     0 negative votes without comments     9 abstention votes ======= 123  votes received  =  78.8 % valid returns                                   =   7.3% valid abstentions   APPROVAL RATE: 106  affirmative votes       =      93.0 % affirmative    8  total negative votes   =         7.0  % negative There were 147 comments received Graham Smith, DSP Group

10 Status Approved resolutions to General Comments, Oct 24
Nov 2011 Status Approved resolutions to General Comments, Oct 24 Approved resolutions to SCS Comments, Oct 31 Approved resolutions to GCR Comments, Oct 31 OBSS resolutions are completed but not approved Interworking resolutions have been completed but not approved Editorial resolutions have been completed but not approved Graham Smith, DSP Group

11 Motion 5 Move to approve TGaa Meeting minutes Okinawa – 11/1496r0
Nov 2011 Motion 5 Move to approve TGaa Meeting minutes Okinawa – 11/1496r0 Proposed: David Hunter Seconded: Mark Hamilton Unanimous consent Graham Smith, DSP Group

12 September 2008 November 2007 Dec 2008 doc.: IEEE /2752r1 doc.: IEEE /1003r0 doc.: IEEE /0xxx Nov 2011 Motion 6 Move to approve TGaa Teleconference Meeting minutes – 11/1157r1, 11/1404r1 and 11/1424r1. Proposed: Alex Ashley Seconded: Mark Hamilton Unanimous consent Graham Smith, DSP Group Page 12 Page 12 Graham Smith, DSP Group Alex Ashley, NDS Ltd Peter Ecclesine, Cisco Systems

13 Nov 2011 Motion 7 "Move to approve document 11/1383r2 and instruct the editor to incorporate the corresponding resolutions in the next draft." Proposed: Alex Ashley Seconded: David Hunter Yes 5/0/0 Graham Smith, DSP Group

14 Nov 2011 Motion 8 "Move to approve document 11/1395r2 and instruct the editor to incorporate the corresponding resolutions in the next draft." Proposed: Mark Hamilton Seconded: David Hunter Yes 3/0/1 Graham Smith, DSP Group

15 Nov 2011 Motion 9 "Move to approve document 11/1409r1 and instruct the editor to incorporate the corresponding resolutions in the next draft." Moved: Mark Hamilton Seconded: Dave Hunter Result: 5/0/0 Graham Smith, DSP Group

16 Nov 2011 Motion 10 Move to change the resolution for CID 7035 from Revise to Reject as follows: REJECTED (EDITOR: :37:52Z) -  Basically the TXOP used in EDCA is unscheduled.  The TXOP starts when the first packet is successfully transmitted.  A time division scheme for EDCA TSPECS, along the lines of the HCCA TXOP Advertisement, might work but it would be against the fundamental EDCA scheme which is one of unscheduled and fair sharing. If we scheduled EDCA TXOPs we would effectively be duplicating HCCA and hence if we can support scheduled EDCA TXOPs, we should be supporting HCCA. The CRC discussed adding support for GCR-SP and would consider a submission from the commenter. Moved: Alex Ashley Seconded: David Hunter Result 5/0/0 Graham Smith, DSP Group

17 Nov 2011 Motion 11 Move that resolution to CID 7036 be revised as follows: "REVISED (GCR: :57-5) The draft should have said "non-GCR-SP". Change service period definition by changing "non-Groupcast with Retries (non-GCR) SP" to "non-Groupcast with Retries SP (non-GCR-SP)" Add two definitions to 3.2: "non-groupcast with retries (non-GCR): A method for delivering group addressed frames without using the GCR unsolicited retry retransmission policy, the GCR block acknowledgement retransmission policy, or the GCR service period (GCR-SP) delivery method." "non-groupcast with retries service period (non-GCR-SP): A method for the delivery of group addressed frames without the use of a GCR service period."" Moved: Alex Ashley Seconded: David Hunter Result: 3/0/0 Graham Smith, DSP Group

18 Nov 2011 Motion 12 Move that resolution to CID 7023 be revised as follows: REVISED (EDITOR: :07:09Z) - Change "The Drop Eligibility subfield is set to 1 to indicate that MSDUs for this TS may be dropped if there are insufficient resources to transmit this TS in its entirety. The Drop Eligibility subfield is set to 0 to indicate that this TS does not support drop eligibility."  to  "The Drop Eligibility subfield is 1 bit in length and is used to indicate the suitability of this TS to be discarded if there are insufficient resources. If there are insufficient resources, a STA should discard the MSDUs or A-MSDUs of a TS with a Drop Eligibility subfield equal to one, in preference to MSDUs or A-MSDUs of a TS whose Drop Eligibility subfield is equal to zero. See The mechanisms for determining whether the resources are insufficient or when to discard MSDUs or A-MSDUs are beyond the scope of this standard.“ Moved: Alex Ashley Seconded: Mark Hamilton Result: 3/0/0 Graham Smith, DSP Group

19 Motion 13 Nov 2011 Graham Smith, DSP Group
Move that resolution to CID 7074 be as follows: REVISED (OBSS: :08:45Z) - There is already normative text in this clause to delay the sending of Qload reports, which is supposed to stop qload report bombardment. The values in a Qload report change upon the addition/termination/modification of a TS, or upon the reception of a changed Qload report from an AP in an overlapping BSS. There is a hysterisis of 100 beacon intervals before the data from an overlapping AP is discarded. Change "Whenever there is a change in the contents of the Qload element, an unsolicited Qload Report Action frame should be transmitted with the RA field set to the broadcast address." to "Whenever there is a change in the contents of the QLoad element and there is no pending delay period for an unsolicited QLoad Report Action frame, an unsolicited Qload Report Action frame should be transmitted with the RA field set to the broadcast address, after a randomly selected delay between 1 and dot11QLoadReportDelay seconds" Change "The AP shall delay the transmission of an unsolicited Qload Report Action frame for a randomly selected period between 1 and dot11QLoadReportDelay seconds" to "After this delay, the AP shall transmit an unsolicited Qload Report Action frame that contains the most recently available Qload information." In annex C on P117L15 add a default value of "10" to the dot11QLoadReportDelay MIB attribute. In (P51L32) change "The Overlap field indicates the number of other Aps that are sharing the same channel and whose beacons have been detected or obtained by the AP issuing this beacon. A value of 0 indicates that this AP has not received one or more beacons on the same channel from any other AP within the last 100 beacon periods of this AP." "The Overlap field indicates the number of other Aps that are sharing the same channel and whose beacons have been detected or obtained within the last 100 beacon periods by the AP issuing this beacon." On P51L15 change "The Allocated Traffic Shared field represents the sum of the Allocated Traffic Self values that have been received or obtained from other Aps, plus the Allocated Traffic Self value of the AP itself. Computation of the values represented in the Allocated Traffic Shared field is described in " "The Allocated Traffic Shared field represents the sum of the Allocated Traffic Self values that have been received or obtained from other Aps whose beacons have been detected or obtained within the last 100 beacon periods, plus the Allocated Traffic Self value of the AP itself. Computation of the values represented in the Allocated Traffic Shared field is described in " Moved: Alex Ashley Seconded: David Hunter Result: 3/0/0 Graham Smith, DSP Group

20 Motion 14 Move that resolution to CID 7072 be as follows: Revised.
Nov 2011 Motion 14 Move that resolution to CID 7072 be as follows: Revised. Change "Number of voice streams" to "TSs using explicit admission control for AV-VO".and "Number of video streams" to "TSs using explicit admission control for AV-VI" Moved: Alex Ashley Seconded: Mark Hamilton Result: 3/0/0 Graham Smith, DSP Group

21 Nov 2011 Motion 15 Having approved comment resolutions for all of the comments received from the initial Sponsor Ballot on P802.11aa Draft 6.0, as contained in document 11/1382r3: Instruct the editor to prepare Draft7.0 incorporating these resolutions and, Approve a 15-day Sponsor Group Recirculation Ballot asking the question “Should  P802.11aa  Draft 7.0 be forwarded to RevCom?” Moved: Mark Hamilton Seconded: David Hunter Result: 3/0/0 Graham Smith, DSP Group

22 Motion 16 Move to approve the following teleconference schedule:
Nov 2011 Motion 16 Move to approve the following teleconference schedule: Tuesdays Hrs ET Dec 6, 13, 20, 2011 Jan 10, 2012 Moved: David Hunter Seconded: Alex Ashley Results: 3/0/0 Notes: Recirculation Nov 14 – 29? Next IEEE Meeting Jan 15th Graham Smith, DSP Group

23 Nov 2011 Motion 17 Move to approve Minutes for ad-hoc meeting November 7 – 11/1545r0 Unanimous consent Graham Smith, DSP Group

24 Timeline First Recirculation -- Sep 10, 2010
Nov 2011 Timeline First Recirculation -- Sep 10, 2010 Form Sponsor pool –May 2011 MEC Done – Aug 2011 Start Sponsor Ballot – Sep 2011 First Sponsor Recirc – Nov 2011 Sponsor Ballot done (final WG approval) – Mar 2012 Final or conditional 802 EC approval – Mar 2012 RevCom/SA approval -- June 2012 (need to line up with appropriate RevCom/SA meeting dates) Graham Smith, DSP Group


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