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1 11k Dallas Agendas Date: 2006-11-12
Notice: This document has been prepared to assist IEEE It is offered as a basis for discussion and is not binding on the contributing individual(s) or organization(s). The material in this document is subject to change in form and content after further study. The contributor(s) reserve(s) the right to add, amend or withdraw material contained herein. Release: The contributor grants a free, irrevocable license to the IEEE to incorporate material contained in this contribution, and any modifications thereof, in the creation of an IEEE Standards publication; to copyright in the IEEE’s name any IEEE Standards publication even though it may include portions of this contribution; and at the IEEE’s sole discretion to permit others to reproduce in whole or in part the resulting IEEE Standards publication. The contributor also acknowledges and accepts that this contribution may be made public by IEEE Patent Policy and Procedures: The contributor is familiar with the IEEE 802 Patent Policy and Procedures < ieee802.org/guides/bylaws/sb-bylaws.pdf>, including the statement "IEEE standards may include the known use of patent(s), including patent applications, provided the IEEE receives assurance from the patent holder or applicant with respect to patents essential for compliance with both mandatory and optional portions of the standard." Early disclosure to the Working Group of patent information that might be relevant to the standard is essential to reduce the possibility for delays in the development process and increase the likelihood that the draft publication will be approved for publication. Please notify the Chair as early as possible, in written or electronic form, if patented technology (or technology under patent application) might be incorporated into a draft standard being developed within the IEEE Working Group. If you have questions, contact the IEEE Patent Committee Administrator at

2 802.11k Dallas Agenda 11/13/06 Monday Ad Hoc
Radio Resource Measurement 802.11k Dallas Agenda 11/13/06 Monday Ad Hoc Sign In +

3 Radio Resource Measurement
Agenda Radio Resource Measurement Patent Policy Inappropriate Topics Documentation and Presentation Rules LB90 Comment Resolution Attendance Security

4 6. Patents IEEE standards may include the known use of essential patents and patent applications provided the IEEE receives assurance from the patent holder or applicant with respect to patents whose infringement is, or in the case of patent applications, potential future infringement the applicant asserts will be, unavoidable in a compliant implementation of either mandatory or optional portions of the standard [essential patents]. This assurance shall be provided without coercion. The patent holder or applicant should provide this assurance as soon as reasonably feasible in the standards development process. This assurance shall be provided no later than the approval of the standard (or reaffirmation when a patent or patent application becomes known after initial approval of the standard). This assurance shall be either: a) A general disclaimer to the effect that the patentee will not enforce any of its present or future patent(s) whose use would be required to implement either mandatory or optional portions of the proposed IEEE standard against any person or entity complying with the standard; or b) A statement that a license for such implementation will be made available without compensation or under reasonable rates, with reasonable terms and conditions that are demonstrably free of any unfair discrimination. This assurance is irrevocable once submitted and accepted and shall apply, at a minimum, from the date of the standard's approval to the date of the standard's withdrawal and is irrevocable during that period.

5 Inappropriate Topics for IEEE WG
Don’t discuss the validity/essentiality of patents/patent claims Don’t discuss the cost of specific patent use Don’t discuss licensing terms or conditions Don’t discuss product pricing, territorial restrictions, or market share Don’t discuss ongoing litigation or threatened litigation Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed… do formally object. If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at or visit This slide set is available at

6 Radio Resource Measurement
Documentation Radio Resource Measurement Present draft is 6.0 Word and 6.0 pdf Documents must be on the server before presenting For lb90 comment processing, need a Word/spreadsheet document with changes to D6.0 + (if necessary) a Powerpoint to present them + drafted motion to instruct the editor

7 Radio Resource Measurement
Meeting Objectives Radio Resource Measurement Whole Dallas Meeting: LB90 Technical Comment Resolution Sponsor Ballot

8 Radio Resource Measurement
Dallas Work Radio Resource Measurement Technical Comment Resolution Next major milestone: Sponsor Ballot

9 Radio Resource Measurement
Assignments Radio Resource Measurement Gray: Annex D MIB Ganesh: Annex A Clause 10 11.11 /22 Lefkowitz: Clause 11.12 Kwak: Clause 11.13 12 15 17 18 Hart: Clause 7.1 7.2 7.3.1 7.4 11.9 Paine: Clause 0 2 3 4 5 Kwak: Clause 11.1 11.14 Ecclesine: Clause Clause Clause Annex I Matta

10 TASK GROUP K AGENDA - Monday Nov 13th 2006 - 0930-1100 and 1600-1800
Monday Agenda Radio Resource Measurement TASK GROUP K AGENDA - Monday Nov 13th and 1 II Ad Hoc Meeting Call to Order - PAINE 09:30 2 *II REVIEW IEEE/802 & POLICIES and RULES (IP, Voting, Robert's Rules, etc) 15 3 *MI APPROVE OR MODIFY AGENDA 10 09:45 4 DT Set/Review Objectives PAINE / ALL 09:55 5 Update on Teleconference Results 10:10 6 Call for Presentations PAINE/ALL 10:25 7 Review Comments and Technical Presentations 20 10:40 Recess until 1600 11:00 8 Meeting Call to Order 16:00 9 16:15 11 16:25 12 16:40 13 16:55 14 50 17:10 Recess until 11/14/06 18:00

11 Radio Resource Measurement
Work Approach Radio Resource Measurement Comment Resolution by Clause Joe Kwak to do a draft 7.0 by Thu afternoon?

12 Radio Resource Measurement
Monday Presentations Radio Resource Measurement 210 minutes total on Monday Discussion of LB 90 comments Joe Kwak comment resolution for 4 comment assignments from teleconf

13 802.11k Dallas Agenda 11/13/06 Monday
Radio Resource Measurement 802.11k Dallas Agenda 11/13/06 Monday Sign In +

14 Radio Resource Measurement
Agenda Radio Resource Measurement Patent Policy Inappropriate Topics Documentation and Presentation Rules LB90 Comment Resolution Attendance Security

15 6. Patents IEEE standards may include the known use of essential patents and patent applications provided the IEEE receives assurance from the patent holder or applicant with respect to patents whose infringement is, or in the case of patent applications, potential future infringement the applicant asserts will be, unavoidable in a compliant implementation of either mandatory or optional portions of the standard [essential patents]. This assurance shall be provided without coercion. The patent holder or applicant should provide this assurance as soon as reasonably feasible in the standards development process. This assurance shall be provided no later than the approval of the standard (or reaffirmation when a patent or patent application becomes known after initial approval of the standard). This assurance shall be either: a) A general disclaimer to the effect that the patentee will not enforce any of its present or future patent(s) whose use would be required to implement either mandatory or optional portions of the proposed IEEE standard against any person or entity complying with the standard; or b) A statement that a license for such implementation will be made available without compensation or under reasonable rates, with reasonable terms and conditions that are demonstrably free of any unfair discrimination. This assurance is irrevocable once submitted and accepted and shall apply, at a minimum, from the date of the standard's approval to the date of the standard's withdrawal and is irrevocable during that period.

16 Inappropriate Topics for IEEE WG
Don’t discuss the validity/essentiality of patents/patent claims Don’t discuss the cost of specific patent use Don’t discuss licensing terms or conditions Don’t discuss product pricing, territorial restrictions, or market share Don’t discuss ongoing litigation or threatened litigation Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed… do formally object. If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at or visit This slide set is available at

17 Radio Resource Measurement
Documentation Radio Resource Measurement Present draft is 6.0 Word and 6.0 pdf Documents must be on the server before presenting For lb90 comment processing, need a Word/spreadsheet document with changes to D6.0 + (if necessary) a Powerpoint to present them + drafted motion to instruct the editor

18 Radio Resource Measurement
Meeting Objectives Radio Resource Measurement Whole Dallas Meeting: LB90 Technical Comment Resolution Sponsor Ballot

19 Radio Resource Measurement
Dallas Work Radio Resource Measurement Technical Comment Resolution Next major milestone: Sponsor Ballot

20 Radio Resource Measurement
Assignments Radio Resource Measurement Gray: Annex D MIB Ganesh: Annex A Clause 10 11.11 /22 Lefkowitz: Clause 11.12 Kwak: Clause 11.13 12 15 17 18 Hart: Clause 7.1 7.2 7.3.1 7.4 11.9 Paine: Clause 0 2 3 4 5 Kwak: Clause 11.1 11.14 Ecclesine: Clause Clause Clause Annex I Matta

21 TASK GROUP K AGENDA - Monday Nov 13th 2006 - 0930-1100 and 1600-1800
Monday Agenda Radio Resource Measurement TASK GROUP K AGENDA - Monday Nov 13th and 1 II Ad Hoc Meeting Call to Order - PAINE 09:30 2 *II REVIEW IEEE/802 & POLICIES and RULES (IP, Voting, Robert's Rules, etc) 15 3 *MI APPROVE OR MODIFY AGENDA 10 09:45 4 DT Set/Review Objectives PAINE / ALL 09:55 5 Update on Teleconference Results 10:10 6 Call for Presentations PAINE/ALL 10:25 7 Review Comments and Technical Presentations 20 10:40 Recess until 1600 11:00 8 Meeting Call to Order 16:00 9 16:15 11 16:25 12 16:40 13 16:55 14 50 17:10 Recess until 11/14/06 18:00

22 Radio Resource Measurement
Work Approach Radio Resource Measurement Comment Resolution by Clause Joe Kwak to do a draft 7.0 by Thu afternoon?

23 Radio Resource Measurement
Monday Presentations Radio Resource Measurement 210 minutes total on Monday Discussion of LB 90 comments Joe Kwak comment resolution for 4 comment assignments from teleconf

24 Radio Resource Measurement
802.11k Agenda Tues 11/14/06 Sign In +

25 Radio Resource Measurement
Tuesday Agenda Radio Resource Measurement LB90 Comment Resolution Approve the Melbourne minutes

26 Straw Poll Would you support a BSS AAC IE that is omitted entirely if only 0 or 1 ACM bits are set in the EDCA parameters element? (this is a proposed resolution to comment 31 of LB90) Result: 7/2/3

27 Telecon Minutes Vote Move to accept the Sep-Nov teleconference minutes found in 06/XXXXrX. Moved: Second: Result: X/X/X

28 TASK GROUP K AGENDA - Tuesday Nov 14th 2006 - 1030-1230
Radio Resource Measurement TASK GROUP K AGENDA - Tuesday Nov 14th 15 II Meeting Call to Order - PAINE 10:30 16 DT Call for Presentations PAINE/ALL 17 Review Comments and Technical Presentations 105 10:45 Lunch Break 60 12:30

29 Radio Resource Measurement
802.11k Agenda Wed 11/15/06 Sign In +

30 TASK GROUP K AGENDA - Wednesday Nov 15th 2006 - 1600-1800
Radio Resource Measurement TASK GROUP K AGENDA - Wednesday Nov 15th 18 II Meeting Call to Order - PAINE 16:00 19 DT Call for Presentations PAINE/ALL 15 20 Review Comments and Technical Presentations 105 16:15 Recess until 9/21/06 210 18:00

31 Radio Resource Measurement
Wednesday Presentations Radio Resource Measurement LB90 Comment Resolution Approve the Melbourne minutes (06/1467r3) Discussion on motions for closing plenary and SEC

32 Melbourne Minutes Vote
Move to accept the Melbourne minutes found in 06/1467r3. Moved: Ganesh Second: Hart Result: 9/0/0

33 Radio Resource Measurement
802.11k Agenda Thu 11/16/06 Sign In +

34 TASK GROUP K AGENDA - Thursday Nov 16th 2006 - 1600-1800
Radio Resource Measurement TASK GROUP K AGENDA - Thursday Nov 16th 21 II Meeting Call to Order - PAINE 16:00 22 DT Review Comments and Technical Presentations PAINE/ALL 100 23 Vote on Going to Recirculation Letter Ballot or Sponsor Ballot 20 17:40 24 ADJOURN 18:00

35 Radio Resource Measurement
Thursday Presentations Radio Resource Measurement Approve Telecon Minutes (06/1570r2)

36 Vote on Acceptance of Draft 6.X
Move to post Draft 6.X as interim drafts on the Working Group Website. Approve: Decline: Abstain: Move: Second:

37 WG Motion to Approve a Conditional SB

38 Radio Resource Measurement
LB90 Results Radio Resource Measurement 514: Voter Pool XXX: Approve XX  : Do Not Approve XX  : Abstain XXX : Total Votes Cast Return Ratio: XX% This return ratio is valid if it exceeded the 50% acceptance level (514 Voters) Ballot Approval: XX % With this result the balloted draft passed both the 75% approval level and the 50% return ratio acceptance level per the WG and 802 LMSC P&Ps.

39 Radio Resource Measurement
802.11k Dallas 11/17/06 WG Closing Plenary +

40 802.11k Dallas Closing Plenary Report
Richard Paine

41 Meeting Objectives Whole Dallas Meeting: LB90 Comment Resolution
Sponsor Ballot

42 Meeting Objectives Met
Whole Dallas Meeting: 100% LB90 (XXX) Comments Resolved

43 Accomplishments ~XXX Comments resolved

44 Recirc Sponsor Ballot Comment Resolution
Objectives for Jan 2007 Sponsor Ballot Comment Resolution Objectives for Mar 2006 Recirc Sponsor Ballot Comment Resolution

45 Plans Plan until next meeting: Weekly Teleconferences on Thu noon Eastern Time starting on Plan for start of next meeting: SBXX Comment Resolution Next major milestone: Sponsor Ballot Comment Resolution

46 Next Telecom 2006-11-30 2006-11-30 Meeting:
Comment resolution processing

47 WG Motion to Approve a Conditional SB
• Date the ballot closed • Vote tally including Approve, Disapprove and Abstain votes • Comments that support the remaining disapprove votes and Working Group responses. • Schedule for recirculation ballot and resolution meeting.

48 WG Motion for Sponsor Ballot

49 Motion Move to change the PICS category for Parallel measurement capability from mandatory to optional (#7). Moved: Second: Result:

50 Motion Move to change the Noise Histogram PICS category from mandatory to optional (#2, 218, 219, 220). Moved: Hansen Second: Ganesh Result: 10/10/1 Motion Fails

51 Motion Move to change the PICS category for Parallel measurement capability from mandatory to optional (#7). Moved: Hansen Second: James Result: 7/6/1 Motion Fails

52 Motion Move to remove QoS Metrics from the next version of the TGk draft. Moved: Ganesh Seconded: Ecclesine Discussion on Motion For: 0 Against: 8 Abstain: 0

53 Motion Move to accept the resolutions for TGk LB86 comments as written in spreadsheet document 06/1489r2, assigned to Hart, and to instruct the secretary to incorporate all such resolutions therein into the next version of the comment resolutions rollup spreadsheet and instruct the editor to incorporate all such resolutions therein into the next TGk draft. Moved: Hart Seconded: Ecclesine Discussion on Motion For: 8 Against: 0 Abstain: 0

54 Motion Move to counter CID33 with resolution “the AP Service Load is renamed to AP Average Access Delay. See resolutions to CID158 and CID257,” and instruct the TGk editor to incorporate these changes into the next version of the TGk draft. Moved: Kwak Seconded: Hart Discussion on Motion For: Against: Abstain:

55 Motion Move to decline CID34 with resolution “the mathematical expression on P47L22, is used as a means to describe the required scaling for the access delay subfields. The use of logarithms in the description of the required scaling does not imply any required implementation. An alternate and equivalent description of the required scaling may be defined in a table or by a number of other descriptions. The implementer may choose to implement this scaling in many different ways. Table lookup for the scaled values is a low complexity implementation, but is not required. Any implementation of the required scaling is allowed. Also see related CID159.” Moved: Kwak Seconded: Ganesh Discussion on Motion For: Unanimous Against: Abstain:

56 Motion Move to counter CIDs 29, 30, and 257 with resolution “As the commenter notes, any interference in the BSS which would trigger physical carrier sense, would increase the measured access delay. This interference is not, strictly speaking, a load element.” P43L3: change “BSS Load” to “BSS Average Access Delay”, here and in all places. P43L4: replace the first sentence of this paragraph; “BSS Average Access Delay element contains the average AP access delay which is a measure of service load in the BSS.” P43L8; change “AP Service Load” to “AP Average Access Delay” here and in all places. Also see related comment resolution in CID 158.” Instruct the TGk editor to incorporate these changes into the next version of the TGk draft. Moved: Kwak Seconded: Hart Discussion on Motion For: Unanimous Against: Abstain:

57 Motion Move to accept the resolutions for TGk LB86 comments as written in spreadsheet document 06/1529r1, assigned to Kwak, and to instruct the secretary to incorporate all such resolutions therein into the next version of the comment resolutions rollup spreadsheet and instruct the editor to incorporate all such resolutions therein into the next TGk draft. Moved: Kwak Seconded: Hart Discussion on Motion For: Unanimous Against: Abstain:

58 Motion Move to accept the resolutions for TGk LB86 comments as written in spreadsheet document 06/1468r2, assigned to Ganesh, and to instruct the secretary to incorporate all such resolutions therein into the next version of the comment resolutions rollup spreadsheet and instruct the editor to incorporate all such resolutions therein into the next TGk draft. Moved: Ganesh Seconded: Kwak Discussion on Motion For: Unanimous Against: Abstain:

59 Motion Move to incorporate the normative text as written in doc 06/1480r2 into the next version of the TGk draft. Moved: Ganesh Seconded: Hart Discussion on Motion For: Unanimous Against: Abstain:

60 Motion Move to accept the resolutions for TGk LB86 comments as written in spreadsheet document 06/1496r1, assigned to Paine, and to instruct the secretary to incorporate all such resolutions therein into the next version of the comment resolutions rollup spreadsheet and instruct the editor to incorporate all such resolutions therein into the next TGk draft. Moved: Paine Seconded: Hart Discussion on Motion For: Unanimous Against: Abstain:

61 Motion Move to accept the resolutions for TGk LB86 comments as written in spreadsheet document 06/1545r0, assigned to Gray, and to instruct the secretary to incorporate all such resolutions therein into the next version of the comment resolutions rollup spreadsheet and instruct the editor to incorporate all such resolutions therein into the next TGk draft. Moved: Kwak Seconded: Hart Discussion on Motion For: Unanimous Against: Abstain:


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