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1 11k Jacksonville Agendas
Date: Notice: This document has been prepared to assist IEEE It is offered as a basis for discussion and is not binding on the contributing individual(s) or organization(s). The material in this document is subject to change in form and content after further study. The contributor(s) reserve(s) the right to add, amend or withdraw material contained herein. Release: The contributor grants a free, irrevocable license to the IEEE to incorporate material contained in this contribution, and any modifications thereof, in the creation of an IEEE Standards publication; to copyright in the IEEE’s name any IEEE Standards publication even though it may include portions of this contribution; and at the IEEE’s sole discretion to permit others to reproduce in whole or in part the resulting IEEE Standards publication. The contributor also acknowledges and accepts that this contribution may be made public by IEEE Patent Policy and Procedures: The contributor is familiar with the IEEE 802 Patent Policy and Procedures < ieee802.org/guides/bylaws/sb-bylaws.pdf>, including the statement "IEEE standards may include the known use of patent(s), including patent applications, provided the IEEE receives assurance from the patent holder or applicant with respect to patents essential for compliance with both mandatory and optional portions of the standard." Early disclosure to the Working Group of patent information that might be relevant to the standard is essential to reduce the possibility for delays in the development process and increase the likelihood that the draft publication will be approved for publication. Please notify the Chair as early as possible, in written or electronic form, if patented technology (or technology under patent application) might be incorporated into a draft standard being developed within the IEEE Working Group. If you have questions, contact the IEEE Patent Committee Administrator at

2 802.11k Jacksonville Agenda 5/15/06 Monday
Radio Resource Measurement 802.11k Jacksonville Agenda 5/15/06 Monday Sign In +

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Agenda Radio Resource Measurement Patent Policy Inappropriate Topics Documentation and Presentation Rules LB83 Comment Resolution Attendance Security

4 6. Patents IEEE standards may include the known use of essential patents and patent applications provided the IEEE receives assurance from the patent holder or applicant with respect to patents whose infringement is, or in the case of patent applications, potential future infringement the applicant asserts will be, unavoidable in a compliant implementation of either mandatory or optional portions of the standard [essential patents]. This assurance shall be provided without coercion. The patent holder or applicant should provide this assurance as soon as reasonably feasible in the standards development process. This assurance shall be provided no later than the approval of the standard (or reaffirmation when a patent or patent application becomes known after initial approval of the standard). This assurance shall be either: a) A general disclaimer to the effect that the patentee will not enforce any of its present or future patent(s) whose use would be required to implement either mandatory or optional portions of the proposed IEEE standard against any person or entity complying with the standard; or b) A statement that a license for such implementation will be made available without compensation or under reasonable rates, with reasonable terms and conditions that are demonstrably free of any unfair discrimination. This assurance is irrevocable once submitted and accepted and shall apply, at a minimum, from the date of the standard's approval to the date of the standard's withdrawal and is irrevocable during that period.

5 Inappropriate Topics for IEEE WG
Don’t discuss the validity/essentiality of patents/patent claims Don’t discuss the cost of specific patent use Don’t discuss licensing terms or conditions Don’t discuss product pricing, territorial restrictions, or market share Don’t discuss ongoing litigation or threatened litigation Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed… do formally object. If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at or visit This slide set is available at

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Documentation Radio Resource Measurement Present draft is 3.7 Word and 4.0 pdf Documents must be on the server before presenting For lb83 comment processing, need a Word/spreadsheet document with changes to D4.0 + (if necessary) a Powerpoint to present them + drafted motion to instruct the editor 06/584r4 nor 06/540r64 spreadsheet should be used for proposing resolved comments, use new document

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Meeting Objectives Radio Resource Measurement Whole Jacksonville Meeting: lb83 Technical Comment Resolution Recirc Letter Ballot

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Jacksonville Work Radio Resource Measurement Technical Comment Resolution Next major milestone: Recirc Letter Ballot

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LB83 Results Radio Resource Measurement 514: Voter Pool 308: Approve 73  : Do Not Approve 44  : Abstain 425 : Total Votes Cast Return Ratio: 82.5 % This return ratio is valid if it exceeded the 50% acceptance level (514 Voters) Ballot Approval: 80.8 % With this result the balloted draft passed both the 75% approval level and the 50% return ratio acceptance level per the WG and 802 LMSC P&Ps.

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Assignments (red presented) Radio Resource Measurement Gray: Annex D MIB Ganesh: Annex A Clause 10 11.11 /22 Lefkowitz: Clause 11.12 Kwak: Clause 11.13 12 15 17 18 Hart: Clause 7.1 7.2 7.3.1 7.4 11.9 Paine: Clause 0 2 3 4 5 Kwak: Clause 11.1 11.14 Ecclesine: Clause Clause Clause Annex I Matta

11 TASK GROUP K AGENDA - Monday May 15th 2006 - 10:30-21:30
Monday Agenda Radio Resource Measurement TASK GROUP K AGENDA - Monday May 15th :30-21:30 1 II Meeting Call to Order - PAINE 10:30 2 *II REVIEW IEEE/802 & POLICIES and RULES (IP, Voting, Robert's Rules, etc) 15 3 *MI APPROVE OR MODIFY AGENDA 10 10:45 4 DT Set/Review Objectives PAINE / ALL 10:55 5 Update on Teleconference Results 11:10 6 Call for Presentations PAINE/ALL 11:25 7 Review Comments and Technical Presentations 50 11:40 8 Recess for Lunch 60 12:30 9 120 13:30 Break 30 15:30 11 16:00 12 Recess for Dinner 90 18:00 13 19:30 14 Recess until 5/18/06 21:30

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Work Approach Radio Resource Measurement Comment Resolution by Clause Simon Barber to do a draft 5.0 by Wed afternoon

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Monday Agenda Radio Resource Measurement Jari Jokela - Measurement Pilot transmission in Probe Response and Neighbor Report Votes on minutes 8pm vote tonight on 06/584r5 Issues Marty Editor PICS resolutions

14 Straw Poll Do you support measurement pilot information in the Probe Response and Neighbor Report as in 06/644r1? Yes 8 No 0 Abstain 1 Move: Jokela Vote Thursday AM

15 Denver Minutes Vote Move to accept the Denver minutes found in 06/0436r8. Moved: Kwak Second: Bob Result: 5-0-0

16 Denver Minutes Vote Move to accept the Denver minutes found in 06/0436r9. Moved: Second: Result: X-X-X

17 Mar-May Telecon Minutes Vote
Move to accept the Mar-May teleconference minutes found in 06/533r5. Moved: Kwak Second: Bob Result: 5-0-0

18 Vote on Editorials from Telecons and Jacksonville Monday
Move to accept the accepted, countered, and declined comments of the spreadsheet 06/584r5 Approve: 5 Decline: 0 Abstain 6 Move: Ganesh Second: Kwak

19 Straw Poll Do you support a simple frame generator at layer 2 so that wireless performance can be measured rather than end-to-end? Yes 1 No 6 Abstain 2

20 Straw Poll Yes 4 No 5 Abstain 0
Are you in favor of adding a new requested information element to the TGk draft (that can be requested in a probe request) that lists all the BSSIDs that are co-located with identical RF characteristics? Yes 4 No 5 Abstain 0

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802.11k Agenda Thu 5/18/06 Sign In +

22 TASK GROUP K AGENDA - Thursday May 18th, 2006 - 8:00 -18:00
Radio Resource Measurement TASK GROUP K AGENDA - Thursday May 18th, :00 -18:00 15 DT Review Comments and Technical Presentations - PAINE/ALL 120 08:00 16 II Recess for Lunch 60 10:00 17 11:00 18 Break 30 13:00 19 13:30 20 15:30 21 100 16:00 22 Vote on Going to Recirculation Letter Ballot 17:40 23 Adjourn 18:00

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Thursday Agenda Radio Resource Measurement Present Hart comment resolutions Jokela presentation Work on comments 188, 399, 420, 455, and 456 from 06/703r2 Vote on Ganesh deferred comment resolutions Kwak comment resolutions (06/784r0) Ecclesine comment resolutions (06/727r0 and 06/778r0) Paine comment resolutions (06/699r2) Vote on Hart comment resolutions (06/728r1) Work on Lefkowitz and Matta comment resolutions 2pm votes on removal of LCI measurement Vote on Noise Histogram PICS element mandatory or optional Vote on Jokela presentation Vote on Ganesh comment resolutions (06/772r2) Available Admission Capacity (Hart) Vote on Peter 06/727r0 Vote on Paine comment resolutions (06/703r2) Timelines Discussion Vote on PAR extension

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Thursday Agenda Radio Resource Measurement Process Lefkowitz and Matta comment Vote on Kwak comment resolutions (06/784r0)

25 Motion Move to accept the proposed changes to include measurement pilot information in the Neighbor Report and Probe Responses as written in doc 06/643r2 and instruct the TGk editor to apply the changes and instructions therein. Approve 8 Disapprove 0 Abstain 6 Move: Jokela Second: Kwak

26 Motion Move to accept the resolutions for TGk LB83 comments as written in doc 06/0728r1 (Hart) and instruct the TGk editor to apply the changes and instructions therein. Approve 8 Disapprove 0 Abstain 3 Move: Hart Second: Ecclesine

27 Motion Move to accept the resolutions for TGk LB83 comments as written in doc 06/0703r2 (Paine) and instruct the TGk editor to apply the changes and instructions therein. Approve Disapprove Abstain Move: Hart Second:

28 MOTION Move to decline LB83 comments that request to remove the LCI measurement (145, 176, 206, 263, 367, 378, 482, 522, 538, 630, 700, 708). Approve: 21 Disapprove: 0 Abstain 1 Move: Ecclesine Second: Hart

29 MOTION Decline the LB83 comments that request Noise Histogram PICS element be made optional. Approve: 9 Disapprove: 1 Abstain 2 Move: Kwak Second: Ganesh

30 Motion Move to accept the resolutions for TGk LB83 comments as written in spreadsheet document 06/0772r2 (Ganesh) excluding comments 166, 170, and 171 and deferring comment 203, and to instruct the secretary to incorporate these resolutions into the next version of the comment resolution rollup spreadsheet. Approve 3 Disapprove 0 Abstain 1 Move: Ganesh Second: Ecclesine

31 Motion Move to accept the normative text for TGk LB83 comments as written in document 06/702r0 (Ganesh) with the exception of changes for and (comments 170 and 171). Instruct the TGk editor to apply the changes and instructions therein. Approve 3 Disapprove 0 Abstain 3 Move: Ganesh Second: Ecclesine

32 Motion Accept the proposed QBSS Available Admission Capacity Element to indicate the load conditions at a QAP as described in document 06/725r1 as a resolution to TGk LB83 comments 78, 79, 81, 142,179, 266, 285, 287, 288, 290, 355, 356, 370, 428, 462, 514, 525, 550, 638, 639, 640, 642, 717 and 718 and instruct the TGk editor to apply the changes Mover: Seconder: Results:

33 Motion Move to accept the normative text for TGk LB83 comments as written in document 06/727r0 (Ecclesine) and addresses comments 245, 246, 310, and Instruct the TGk editor to apply the changes and instructions therein. Approve 5 Disapprove 0 Abstain 1 Move: Ecclesine Second: Durand

34 Motion Move to accept the resolutions for TGk LB83 comments as written in spreadsheet document 06/0703r2 (Paine). Instruct the secretary to incorporate these resolutions into the next version of the comment resolution rollup spreadsheet. Approve 5 Disapprove 0 Abstain 2 Move: Ecclesine Second: Hart

35 Motion Move to request the WG to forward the TGk PAR extension to the EC. Approve 7 Disapprove 0 Abstain 0 Move: Worstell Second: Hart

36 Motion Move to accept the resolutions for TGk LB83 comments as written in spreadsheet document 06/784r1 (Kwak). Instruct the secretary to incorporate these resolutions into the next version of the comment resolution rollup spreadsheet. Approve 5 Disapprove 0 Abstain 2 Move: Kwak Second: Ecclesine

37 Motion Move to accept the normative text for TGk LB83 comments as written in document 06/785r1 (Kwak). Instruct the TGk editor to apply the changes and instructions therein. Approve 5 Disapprove 0 Abstain 1 Move: Kwak Second: Durand

38 Empowerment for Teleconferences
Move to request the Working Group to empower TGk to hold weekly teleconferences (Thursdays at noon Eastern time) through 2 weeks after the San Diego meeting as required to conduct business necessary to progress the Letter Ballot process, including creating and issuing drafts for Letter Ballots and handling other business necessary to progress through the IEEE standards process. TGk Movers: Result: X/X/X

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802.11k Jacksonville 5/19/06 WG Closing Plenary +

40 802.11k Jacksonville Closing Plenary Report
Richard Paine

41 Meeting Objectives Whole Jacksonville Meeting:
LB83 Technical Comment Resolution Recirc Letter Ballot Editor asked to be relieved

42 Meeting Objectives Met
Whole Jacksonville Meeting: 80% LB83 Technical Comments Resolved

43 Accomplishments ~600 Comments resolved
Scheduled Vote on LCI 21/0/1 (stays in spec) Vote on Noise Histogram mandatory in PICS 9/1/2 (stays mandatory)

44 Objectives for Jul 2006 Plenary
Complete Recirc Letter Ballot 83 Comment Resolution Recirculation Letter Ballot Objectives for Sep 2006 Sponsor Ballot

45 Plans Plan until next meeting: Weekly Teleconferences on Thu noon Eastern Time starting on 5/25/06. Plan for start of next meeting: LB83 Recirc Letter Ballot Comment Resolution Next major milestone: Letter Ballot Recirc Jul 06

46 Next Telecom 5/25/06 5/25/06 Meeting: Comment resolution processing

47 11k PAR Extension TGk requests the WG to forward the proposed 11k PAR extension to 2011 (as found in document 06/806r0) to NESCOM for consideration of the extension of the PAR. Moved on behalf of TGk: Worstell/Hart 7/0/0 Second: Result:


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