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1 802.11 comments on Pending 802 PARs – July 2011
doc.: IEEE /0997r0 July 2011 comments on Pending 802 PARs – July 2011 Date: Authors: Jon Rosdahl, CSR Jon Rosdahl, CSR

2 July 20111 doc.: IEEE /0997r0 July 2011 Abstract 802.1AXbq amendment for distributed resilient network interconnect, PAR and 5C 802.1ASbt amendment for timing and synchronization for time-sensitive applications, PAR and 5C 802.1 AS corrigendum, PAR, no 5C required as this is a maintenance item. 802.1BR new standard for bridge port extension, PAR and 5C 802.3bj amendment for 100 Gb/s operation over backplanes and copper cables, PAR and 5C m amendment to for TV white space PHY, PAR and 5C amendment for management and control plane interfaces and procedures and management information base enhancements, PAR and 5C Jon Rosdahl, CSR Jon Rosdahl, CSR

3 July 2011 802.1 PARS 802.1ASbt amendment for timing and synchronization for time-sensitive applications, PAR and 5C 802.1 AS corrigendum, PAR, no 5C required as this is a maintenance item. 802.1BR new standard for bridge port extension, PAR and 5C No comments were made. Jon Rosdahl, CSR

4 July 2011 802.3 Pars 802.1AXbq amendment for distributed resilient network interconnect, PAR and 5C 802.3bj amendment for 100 Gb/s operation over backplanes and copper cables, PAR and 5C General Comment on the length of time from Initial Sponsor Ballot to Projected Compleation Date for RevCom….general rule of thumb is that for amdendments, that this be at least 6 months. Jon Rosdahl, CSR

5 802.15.4m amendment to 802.15.4 for TV white space PHY, PAR and 5C
July 20111 doc.: IEEE /0997r0 July 2011 m amendment to for TV white space PHY, PAR and 5C 5.2 Scope: Which Regulatory Domains are you planning to address? Which coexistence set will you use? How will you address which database access will be used? What is the approach that will be used to securely access the Geolocation database? (Note it will be different from country to country). Suggested Scope: This amendment specifies a physical layer for meeting TV white space regulatory requirements in “X”, “Y” and “Z”. MAC changes required to support this physical layer are also described. This amendment enables operation in the white spaces of the TV Bands while supporting data rates in the 40 kbits per second to 2000 kbits per second range. This amendment targets power efficient device command and control applications. Jon Rosdahl, CSR Jon Rosdahl, CSR

6 15.1.4.m 5.3 Other Standard: 5.4 Purpose: 5.6 Stakeholders:
July 20111 doc.: IEEE /0997r0 July 2011 m 5.3 Other Standard: Should be yes: “PAWS” or similar database protocol standard. 5.4 Purpose: Suggest replace with “This document will not have a purpose clause”. You should not restate the scope in the purpose statement. 5.6 Stakeholders: There are more players for large scale command and control applications Add the following: Industrial Automation providers, Building Automation providers, Intelligent Traffic System Providers, Large Scale Monitoring for Safety providers. 8.1 Notes: - Instructions require item number and explanation. What item is the statement trying to support? Suggest that this may be included in the scope statement as a final sentence. Jon Rosdahl, CSR Jon Rosdahl, CSR

7 15.1.4m 1. Broad Market Potential: 3. Distinct Identify
July 20111 doc.: IEEE /0997r0 July 2011 15.1.4m 1. Broad Market Potential: This does not seem to be a personal area network application. 3. Distinct Identify a) spelling error – “application” b) this statement seems to be overly vague. Once af plus ah are in the base standard, it could in fact provide this same solution set. 4. Technical Feasibility a) The FCC rules are not complete, so compliance cannot be claimed. b) what is the value of “The WPAN application presents no unique challenges”? Jon Rosdahl, CSR Jon Rosdahl, CSR

8 15.1.4m 5 Economic Feasibility
July 20111 doc.: IEEE /0997r0 July 2011 15.1.4m 5 Economic Feasibility TV White Space devices may not have the same costs as the traditional devices due implementation details to meet: regulatory requirements – database access method will include additional costs Spectral mask has been defined more tightly than in the past. The current FCC spectral mask may result in significant cost increases. Anntenna size differences Jon Rosdahl, CSR Jon Rosdahl, CSR

9 July 20111 doc.: IEEE /0997r0 July 2011 amendment for management and control plane interfaces and procedures and management information base enhancements, PAR and 5C 2.1 Title: What is the real work that is being cited in the title? 5.2 Scope: suggest the following for your Scope: This amendment defines new Management and Control Plan interfaces for the IEEE standard.  The existing Management Information Base (MIB) is enhanced to accommodate the new interfaces. The Primitives for Cognitive Radio Capabilities have been extended to align with the new interface definitions. Jon Rosdahl, CSR Jon Rosdahl, CSR

10 802.22.a 5.3 Other Standard: 5.4 Purpose 5.5 Need: 5.6 stakeholders –
July 20111 doc.: IEEE /0997r0 July 2011 a 5.3 Other Standard: Should be yes: “PAWS” or similar database protocol standard. 5.4 Purpose The scope and purpose should describe the final document not the project. If you do not include a purpose statement in the Amendment it is better to write “Document will not have a purpose statement”. 5.5 Need: The statement should be more succinct and focused. 5.6 stakeholders – Who are the stakeholders, not just lists of industry descriptions. List who has stake in not who is looking to include. 8.1 note: you need to include the item number that you are commenting on. ("Item Number and Explanation"). This is a better Scope statement that what is in 5.2. General: Please check the instructions for PARs again, and comply with the instructions. Jon Rosdahl, CSR Jon Rosdahl, CSR

11 802.22.a Five Criteria is not numbered… 1. Broad Market Potential
July 20111 doc.: IEEE /0997r0 July 2011 a Five Criteria is not numbered… 1. Broad Market Potential a) What does this have to do with the scope of the proposed project? a) Live-stock monitoring may need a MIB, but Live-Stock Monitoring applications are probably not the motivation for enhancing the MIB. Rewrite Market Potential. 3. Distinct Identity: c) The proposed title, scope and purpose were not defined to make it easy for anyone to select this standard for relevant applications. Jon Rosdahl, CSR Jon Rosdahl, CSR

12 References July 2011 July 20111 doc.: IEEE 802.11-11/0997r0
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