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1 Comparing energy loss models
What have we learned from the TECHQM brick problem? Marco van Leeuwen Utrecht University With many contributions from TEHCQM collaborators

2 Flashback to Hard Probes 2006
It was becoming clear that GLV, ASW, AMY require different densities to describe the RAA measurements at RHIC and, after discussion, it also became clear that nobody really knew why!

3 Energy loss formalisms I
PHENIX, arXiv: , J. Nagle WWND08 PQM <q> = GeV2/fm +2.1 - 3.2 ^ WHDG dNg/dy = 1400 +200 - 375 ZOWW e0 = GeV/fm +0.2 - 0.5 AMY as = 0.280 +0.016 Large difference in medium density: GLV, AMY: T = MeV BDMPS: T ~ 1000 MeV Different calculations use different geometries – not clear what dominates

4 Energy loss formalisms II
Compare 3 formalisms with `same’ Hydro geometry: ASW: HT: AMY: Bass et al, PRC79, AMY: T ~ 400 MeV Different formalisms give different energy loss using same geometry Why: Different physics implemented? Or `technical’ differences? Differences indicate theoretical uncertainty? or: Some of the formalisms are ‘wrong’?

5 The Brick Problem Gluon(s) Compare outgoing gluon, quark distributions
TECHQM: Theory-Experiment Collaboration on Hot Quark Matter Gluon(s) Compare energy-loss in a well-defined model system: Fixed length L = 2, 5 fm Density T, q Quark, E = 10, 20 GeV Compare outgoing gluon, quark distributions - Same density - Same suppression Two types of comparison: and interpret/understand the differences

6 (independent emission)
Four formalisms Multiple gluon emission Hard Thermal Loops (AMY) Dynamical (HTL) medium Single gluon spectrum: BDMPS-Z like path integral No vacuum radiation Multiple soft scattering (BDMPS-Z, ASW-MS) Static scattering centers Gaussian approximation for momentum kicks Full LPM interference and vacuum radiation Opacity expansion ((D)GLV, ASW-SH) Static scattering centers, Yukawa potential Expansion in opacity L/l (N=1, interference between two centers default) Interference with vacuum radiation Higher Twist (Guo, Wang, Majumder) Medium characterised by higher twist matrix elements Radiation kernel similar to GLV Vacuum radiation in DGLAP evolution Fokker-Planck rate equations Poisson ansatz (independent emission) DGLAP evolution

7 Large differences in medium density
Some brick results Outgoing quark spectrum Large differences in medium density for R7 = 0.25 T=300 MeV RAA > P0  Difference between formalisms sizable even in simple geometry

8 Large angle radiation kT < k
Emitted gluon distribution Opacity expansion kT < k Gluon momentum k Gluon perp momentum k Calculated gluon spectrum extends to large k at small k Outside kinematic limits GLV, ASW, HT cut this off ‘by hand’ Estimate uncertainty by varying cut; sizeable effect

9 Limitations of soft collinear approach
Calculations are done in soft collinear approximation: Soft: Collinear: Need to extend results to full phase space to calculate observables (especially at RHIC) Soft approximation not problematic: For large E, most radiation is soft Also: w > E  full absorption Cannot enforce collinear limit: Small w, w  kT always a part of phase space with large angles

10 Opacity expansions GLV and ASW-SH
Single-gluon spectrum Blue: mg = 0 Red: mg = m/√2 Horowitz and Cole, PRC81, Single-gluon spectrum Blue: kTmax = xE Red: kTmax = 2x(1-x)E Horowitz and Cole, PRC81, Different definitions of x: ASW: GLV: x+ ~ xE in soft collinear limit, but not at large angles Different large angle cut-offs: kT < w = xE E kT < w = 2 x+ E Factor ~2 uncertainty from large-angle cut-off

11 HT and GLV HT: kernel diverges for kT 0 t < L  kT > √(E/L) HT:
Single-gluon kernel GLV and HT similar HT: GLV GLV similar structure, phase factor W However HT assumes kT >> qT, so no explicit integral over qT HT: kernel diverges for kT 0 t < L  kT > √(E/L) GLV: HT: HT gives more radiation than GLV

12 Opacity expansion vs multiple soft
OE and MS related via path integral formalism Salgado, Wiedemann, PRD68, Different limits: SH (N=1 OE): interference between neighboring scattering centers MS: ‘all orders in opacity’, gaussian scattering approximation Two differences at the same time Quantitative differences sizable

13 AMY, BDMPS, and ASW-MS Single-gluon kernel from AMY based on scattering rate: Salgado, Wiedemann, PRD68, BMPS-Z use harmonic oscillator: BDMPS-Z: Finite-L effects: Vacuum-medium interference + large-angle cut-off

14 + sizeable difference at large w at L=2 fm
AMY and BDMPS L=2 fm Single gluon spectra L=5 fm Single gluon spectra AMY: no large angle cut-off + sizeable difference at large w at L=2 fm Using based on AMY-HTL scattering potential

15 L-dependence; regions of validity?
Emission rate vs t (=L) GLV N=1 Too much radiation at large L (no interference between scatt centers) Caron-Huot, Gale, arXiv: E = 16 GeV k = 3 GeV T = 200 MeV Full = numerical solution of Zakharov path integral = ‘best we know’ AMY, small L, no L2, boundary effect H.O = ASW/BDMPS like (harmonic oscillator) Too little radiation at small L (ignores ‘hard tail’ of scatt potential)

16 Single gluon spectra Same temperature L = 2 fm L = 5 fm
@Same temperature: AMY > OE > ASW-MS Size of difference depends on L, but hierarchy stays

17 Outgoing quark spectra
Same temperature: T = 300 MeV @Same T: suppression AMY > OE > ASW-MS Note importance of P0

18 Outgoing quark spectra
Same suppression: R7 = 0.25 At R7 = 0.25: P0 small for ASW-MS P0 = 0 for AMY by definition

19 Conclusion AMY gives most radiation
No L2 effect at small L No large-angle cut Opacity expansions (GLV/ASW-SH) intermediate Good at short lengths (L < 2-3 fm) Likely too much at large L Multiple-soft scattering radiates least Too much suppression at short L ? Higher Twist more difficult to compare Gives more radiation than GLV at single-gluon level Current calculations: Large uncertainties associated with large-angle radiation at low to moderate x We now know where the differences between formalisms come from ! Unfortunately: differences not dominated by physics, but by approximations

20 What next ? Some suggested future directions:
In preparation: TECHQM publication with more detailed report Some suggested future directions: Use improved methods: full path-integral, higher order opacity Need to improve treatment of large angle radiation (recoil?) Some ideas exist, e.g. use MC with LPM + full matrix elements Systematically explore sensitivity to medium model (scattering potential) Plenty of room of original work ! Thanks to all in TECHQM who contributed

21 Extra slides

22 Fragmentation function
Majumder, van Leeuwen, arXIv: L=2 fm, T=250, 350 MeV GLV, HT, ASW-MS similar AMY: large suppression L=2 fm, T=250, 350 MeV AMY, HT larger suppression than OE, MS

23 Qhat vs T Some leeway in calculation of q from T: (Nf = 0) or

24 X+ vs xE

25 TECHQM https://wiki.bnl.gov/TECHQM/index.php/Main_Page
Theory-Experiment Collaboration on Hot Quark Matter Forum to discuss comparison between theory and experiment in areas where there is a potential significant quantitative understanding Two subgroups: Parton energy loss Elliptic flow/Hydro Workshops/meetings: BNL May 2008 LBL Dec 2008 CERN July 2009 BNL (with CATHIE) Dec 2009 This talk is about Parton Energy loss

26 Single gluon spectra Same temperature Same suppression
OE (AMY?) peaked at low w ASW-MS not so much @Same temperature: AMY > OE > ASW-MS

27 Conclusion Tentative summary:
AMY shows strongest suppression Lack of vacuum radiation? ASW-MS: smallest suppression Soft scattering or interference or both? OE, HT similar, between MS and AMY Large uncertainties associated with large angle radiation in all formalisms Differences between formalisms large at single-gluon level RAA probably not sensitive to details of multi-gluon treatment In preparation: TECHQM publication with more detailed report Thanks to all in TECHQM who contributed !


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