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1 11k Anaheim Agendas Date: 2005-09-19
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2 802.11k Anaheim Agenda 9/19/05 Monday
Radio Resource Measurement 802.11k Anaheim Agenda 9/19/05 Monday Sign In +

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Agenda Radio Resource Measurement Patent Policy Inappropriate Topics Documentation and Presentation Rules LB73 Comment Resolution Attendance

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6. Patents IEEE standards may include the known use of patent(s), including patent applications, provided the IEEE receives assurance from the patent holder or applicant with respect to patents essential for compliance with both mandatory and optional portions of the standard. This assurance shall be provided without coercion and prior to approval of the standard (or reaffirmation when a patent becomes known after initial approval of the standard). This assurance shall be a letter that is in the form of either a) A general disclaimer to the effect that the patentee will not enforce any of its present or future patent(s) whose use would be required to implement the proposed IEEE standard against any person or entity using the patent(s) to comply with the standard or b) A statement that a license will be made available without compensation or under reasonable rates, with reasonable terms and conditions that are demonstrably free of any unfair discrimination This assurance shall apply, at a minimum, from the date of the standard's approval to the date of the standard's withdrawal and is irrevocable during that period. Approved by IEEE-SA Standards Board – December 2002

5 Inappropriate Topics for IEEE WG Meetings Radio Resource Measurement
Don’t discuss licensing terms or conditions Don’t discuss product pricing, territorial restrictions or market share Don’t discuss ongoing litigation or threatened litigation Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed… do formally object. If you have questions, contact the IEEE Patent Committee Administrator at Approved by IEEE-SA Standards Board – December 2002

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Documentation Radio Resource Measurement Documents must be on the server before presenting Word document with changes to D2.0 + Powerpoint to present Them + Powerpoint with motion to instruct the editor

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Meeting Objectives Radio Resource Measurement Whole Anaheim Meeting: LB73 Technical Comment Resolution New Letter Ballot

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Anaheim Work Radio Resource Measurement Technical Comment Resolution Next major milestone: Letter Ballot

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Monday Agenda Radio Resource Measurement TASK GROUP K AGENDA - Monday Sep 19th, :30-18:30 11 II Meeting Call to Order PAINE 16:00 12 DT Review Comments and Technical Presentations - PAINE/ALL 120 13 Dinner Break 90 18:00 14 19:30 Recess until Wednesday morning 21:30

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Work Approach Radio Resource Measurement Next LB Draft

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Technical Comment Categories Radio Resource Measurement

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Technical Comment Categories Radio Resource Measurement

13 ftp://server/ IP Address: 10.0.0.10 www.802wirelessworld.com
Will be used for this Session!

14 ftp://server/802-11/ Upload ALL Submissions
Into the INCOMING Documents folder

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Presentations Radio Resource Measurement

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Presentations (contd) Radio Resource Measurement

18 ANA Comment Resolution Vote
Move to instruct the editor to make the normative text changes detailed in 05/655r0 in creating the next version of the 11k draft and close the comments listed therein. Moved: Black Second: Lefkowitz Result:

19 PICS Comment Resolution Vote
Move to instruct the editor to make the normative text changes detailed in 05/679r0 in creating the next version of the 11k draft and close the comments listed therein. Moved: Second: Result: X-X-X

20 RPI Comment Resolution Vote
Move to instruct the editor to incorporate the normative text changes detailed in 05/685r0 in creating the next version of the 11k draft and close the comments listed therein. Moved: Joe Kwak Second: Qi Result: 9-1-6

21 RCPI Comment Resolution Vote
Move to instruct the editor to incorporate the normative text changes detailed in 05/440r0 in creating the next version of the 11k draft and close the comments listed therein. Moved: Kwak Second: Result: X-X-X

22 Brisbane Ad Hoc Minutes Vote
Move to accept the Brisbane Ad Hoc minutes found in 05/658r2. Moved: Srini Second: Black Result:

23 San Francisco Ad Hoc Minutes Vote
Move to accept the San Francisco Ad Hoc minutes found in 05/697r0. Moved: Gray Second: Srini Result: 8-0-3

24 Teleconference Minutes Vote
Move to accept the teleconference minutes of the teleconferences between Cairns and San Francisco 2 05/637r0. Change 3rd line on first page from “Mar-May” to “Jun-Jul” Moved: Srini Second: Jan Result: 6-0-5

25 Cairns Minutes Vote Move to accept the Cairns minutes found in 05/508r0. Moved: Black Second: Kwak Result: X-X-X

26 802.11k Anaheim Agenda Tues 9/20/05
Radio Resource Measurement 802.11k Anaheim Agenda Tues 9/20/05 Sign In +

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Agenda 9/20/05 Radio Resource Measurement TASK GROUP K AGENDA - Wednesday Jul 20th, :00-18:00 15 II Meeting Call to Order PAINE 08:00 16 DT Review Comments and Technical Presentations - PAINE/ALL 120 17 Break for Mid Week Plenary 150 10:00 18 12:30 19 Lunch Break 60 14:30 20 15:30 21 Break 30 17:30 22 18:00 Social

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Agenda 9/20/05 Radio Resource Measurement Presentations Comment Resolutions

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Presentations Radio Resource Measurement

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Presentations (contd) Radio Resource Measurement

31 Frame Vote Motion: To remove the Frame request/report measurement from the 11k specification. Moved: Second: Result: X-X-X

32 Hidden Station Vote Motion: To remove the Hidden Station request/report measurement from the 11k specification. Moved: Black Second: Jokela Result:

33 Noise Vote Motion: To remove the Noise Histogram request/report measurement from the 11k specification. Moved: Engwer Second: Chris Result:

34 Medium Sense Time Histogram Vote
Motion: To remove the Medium Sense Time Histogram request/report measurement from the 11k specification. Moved: Olson Second: Qi Result:

35 Location (LCI) Vote Motion: To remove the LCI request/report measurement from the 11k specification. Moved: Lefkowitz Second: No Second/No Vote Result: X-X-X

36 Motion Move to instruct the editor to include 05/744r0 Noise comment resolution in the next 11k draft. Moved: Olson Second: Durand Result:

37 Motion Move to instruct the editor to include 05/440r1 RCPI comment resolution in the next 11k draft. Moved: Kwak Second: Gray Result: 9-0-5

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802.11k Agenda Wed 9/21/05 Sign In +

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Agenda 9/20/05 Radio Resource Measurement Presentations Comment Resolutions

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Presentations Radio Resource Measurement

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Presentations (contd) Radio Resource Measurement

42 Frame Vote Motion: To remove the Frame request/report measurement from the 11k specification. Moved: Second: Result: X-X-X

43 Hidden Station Vote Motion: To remove the Hidden Station request/report measurement from the 11k specification. Moved: Black Second: Jokela Result:

44 Noise Vote Motion: To remove the Noise Histogram request/report measurement from the 11k specification. Moved: Engwer Second: Chris Result:

45 Medium Sense Time Histogram Vote
Motion: To remove the Medium Sense Time Histogram request/report measurement from the 11k specification. Moved: Olson Second: Qi Result:

46 Location (LCI) Vote Motion: To remove the LCI request/report measurement from the 11k specification. Moved: Lefkowitz Second: No Second/No Vote Result: X-X-X

47 Motion Move to instruct the editor to include 05/744r0 Noise comment resolution in the next 11k draft. Moved: Olson Second: Durand Result:

48 Motion Move to instruct the editor to include 05/440r1 RCPI comment resolution in the next 11k draft. Moved: Kwak Second: Gray Result: 9-0-5

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802.11k Agenda Thu 9/22/05 Sign In +

50 Motion Move to recess for the TGn vote.
Ruled out of order until we know there is a TGn vote. Motion withdrawn Moved: Marty Second: Roger Result: X-X-X

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Agenda 9/22/05 Radio Resource Measurement TASK GROUP K AGENDA - Wed Jul 21th :30-18:00 23 DT Review Comments and Technical Presentations - PAINE/ALL 120 13:30 24 II Break 30 15:30 25 16:00 26 ADJOURN 90 18:00

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Anaheim Agenda 9/22/05 Radio Resource Measurement Presentations Comment Resolution in spreadsheet Vote on Ad Hoc Vote on going to Letter Ballot

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Presentations Radio Resource Measurement

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Presentations (contd) Radio Resource Measurement

55 Motion Move to instruct the editor to include 05/664r1 Neighbor Report changes in the next 11k draft. Change the crossed out “shall” to a valid “shall” in the 3rd line. In Clause 3, Validated Neighbor definition, add the acronym AP after the word “Neighbor”in the second line. Moved: Lefkowitz Second: Sudheer Result:

56 Motion Move to instruct the editor to include 05/434r4 Antenna comment resolution in the next 11k draft. Moved: Kwak Second: Durand Result:

57 Straw Poll Do people feel that the STA Statistics measurement should be used to retrieve PHY parameters from a STA MIB? Yes: No: Result:

58 Motion Move to instruct the editor to include 05/762r0 STA Statistics normative text in the next 11k draft. Moved: Kwak Second: Zuniga Result: 3-9-3

59 Motion Move to accept the Cairns through Brisbane “accepted”, “counter”, and “declined” comment resolutions in the next 11k draft. They are documented in 05/743r3. Moved: Kwak Second: Black Result: 7-0-8

60 Empowerment for Teleconferences
Move to request the Working Group to empower TGk to hold weekly teleconferences (Thursdays at 11:30am Eastern time) through 2 weeks after the Anaheim meeting as required to conduct business necessary to progress the Letter Ballot process, including creating and issuing drafts for Letter Ballots and handling other business necessary to progress through the IEEE standards process. TGk Movers: Black/Barber Result:

61 Motion Move to instruct the editor to include 05/679r0 PICS normative text in the next 11k draft. Moved: Black Second: Ecclesine Result:

62 Motion Move to instruct the editor to include 05/780r0 SSID in the Beacon Measurement normative text in the next 11k draft. Moved: Black Second: Qi Result:

63 Straw Poll Do you support a simplified RSNI signal quality measure like 779r0? Yes: No: Result:

64 Motion Take 11k draft 3.0 to the working group for 40 day Working Group Letter Ballot. Moved: Qi Second: Kwak Result:

65 Motion Move to instruct the editor to include 05/512r2 Triggered QoS Measurements normative text in the next 11k draft. Moved: Black Second: Jokela Result:

66 Motion Move to instruct the editor to prepare a Letter Ballot draft 3.0 to take to the Working Group for review. Moved: Second: Result: X-X-X

67 11k Ad Hoc Meeting Move to request the Working Group to empower TGk to hold an ad-hoc meeting in Seattle for 9/14-16 (Paine) as required to conduct business necessary to progress the Letter Ballot process, including creating and issuing drafts for Letter Ballots and handling other business necessary to progress through the IEEE standards process. TGk Movers: Kwak/Black Result:

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802.11k Anaheim 9/23/05 WG Closing Plenary +

69 802.11k Anaheim Closing Plenary Report
Richard Paine

70 Meeting Objectives Whole Anaheim Meeting:
LB73 Technical Comment Resolution Letter Ballot

71 Meeting Objectives Met
Whole Anaheim Meeting:

72 Accomplishments XX Comment Resolutions and Technical Presentations
~1600 LB73 Comment Resolutions

73 Objectives for Nov 2005 Plenary
Letter Ballot Comment Resolution Objectives for Jan 2005 Letter Ballot Comment Resolution

74 Plans Plan until next meeting: Weekly Teleconferences on Thu 11:30am Eastern Time starting on 9/29/05. Ad Hoc? Plan for start of next meeting: Letter Ballot Comment Resolution Next major milestone: Letter Ballot

75 Next Telecom 9/29/05 9/29/05 Meeting:
Blank comment resolution processing

76 11k Ad Hoc Meeting Move to request the Working Group to empower TGk to hold an ad-hoc meeting in Seattle for 9/14-16 (Paine) as required to conduct business necessary to progress the Letter Ballot process, including creating and issuing drafts for Letter Ballots and handling other business necessary to progress through the IEEE standards process. Moved on behalf of the Task Group TGk Movers: Kwak/Black Result:


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