1. Education and Training Statistics Working Group Meeting 5/6 June Item 4.1 Revised legal framework for CVT statistics Sylvain Jouhette
5/6 June 2012 1

2. Revised legal framework for CVT statistics
Context and TF mandate
Technical approach
alternative sources
Information to be maintained in the restricted CVT data collection
Legal approach
Next steps
Technical discussions
Consultations (DSS,BDSG)
Adoption of revised legal framework in 2014
The ETS WG delegates are invited to:
comment on the overall technical approach
comment on the related proposals for legal acts
agree on the next stages in particular on the next TF meetings
Item CVTS

3. Mandate of the Task Force
Context
Negative priorities discussed at the ESS Committee
Streamlining of LLL statistics
New policy needs (e.g. Bruges Communiqué)
CVTS 4 results not yet available
Mandate of the Task Force
Provide recommendations on CVT indicators in a coherent framework to reduce further overlapping of sources and burden on enterprises;
Advise on related improvement of sources and define a restricted data collection on CVT (module) focussing on enterprises' strategies (and on enterprises’ costs if LCS is not a suitable alternative);
Propose technical elements for revised legal acts (including setting up minimum quality requirements for outputs);
Assess sustainability of proposals for lifelong learning and VET statistics, based in particular on first outcomes from CVTS 4.
Item CVTS

4. CVT strategies and skill needs
Technical approach
Use of alternatives sources
AES for hours and participation rates of individuals in CVT
By age, gender, occupation, contract type
Coherence of data by enterprise size by enterprise size and NACE?
LFS data source for apprenticeship (number of)
Labour Cost Survey for CVT costs of enterprises
Focus on external costs
Feasibility to be further discussed (e.g. quality, contributions/receipts)
Adjustments might be possible but time consuming to process.
CVT strategies and skill needs
Free survey vehicle: stand-alone survey or module in exiting survey
Some variables to be maintained in the restricted CVT data collection
Breakdowns by hours in external/internal training
Categorical variable on participation of employees
Item CVTS

5. Repeal of current CVTS framework Regulation;
Legal approach - framework Regulation
Repeal of current CVTS framework Regulation;
Regulation No 452/2008 on statistics on education and lifelong learning for defining new (restricted) data collection;
Regulation Business Statistics (FRIBS) delayed: to be used later
Legal approach - implementing Regulation
Possible articles for the implementing act
Content to be further discussed at technical level
First proposal: see next
Impact on the proposal on other sources (AES, LFS)
To be further discussed at technical level (TF)
List of discussion points in the document for this meeting
Related to item 4.2 for LFS
Item 4.1 – CVTS

6. Legal approach - implementing Regulation (Cont.)
Proposed content of the implementation act
Note (*): stand-alone survey
Main indicators for EU policies: 6 topics instead of 14
- Investment in CVT - Characteristics of CVT
- Employer strategies - Factors limiting the provision of CVT;
- Employer assessments of skill needs and strategies to deal with skills shortages;
- Quality assurance and evaluation of CVT in enterprises.

7. Two additional TF meetings
Next steps
Two additional TF meetings
Dec 2012: alternative sources (costs, participation, hours)
Distribution of employees by local unit vs enterprises by NACE and size;
Accuracy/coherence of Labour Cost Survey data compared to CVTS;
April 2013: implementation measures, timeliness, sector coverage, selection of variables on CVT strategies and skill needs
Possible vehicles at national level (mainly qualitative variables)
Coverage (public administration, health and education)
2012: Sept Consultation of DSS and BSDG
2013: June Consultation of the ETS WG Sept Consultation of the DSS and BSDG
2014: May Consultation of the ESS Committee June Draft regulation to European Parl and Council for scrutiny procedure Dec Adoption by the Commission / repeal in parallel
Item CVTS

8. Revised legal framework for CVT statistics
Technical approach
alternative sources
Information to be maintained in the restricted CVT data collection
Legal approach
Use of Framework Regulation on education and lifelong learning statistics
Next steps
Two additional TF meeting. Proposal for the 2014 ESS Committee meeting
The ETS WG delegates are invited to:
comment on the overall technical approach
comment on the related proposals for legal acts
agree on the next stages in particular on the next TF meetings
Item CVTS 8

9. Education and Training Statistics Working Group Meeting 5/6 June 2012 ANNEXES9

10. Technical approach – Alternative sources
Participation/hours: AES, LFS (apprentices)
Costs (direct: 46.5%. PAC: 45.4%)
Focus on external costs (a) and (b) …..+ (d)?
(a) Fees and payments for courses for persons employed,
(b) Travel and subsistence payments,
(c) Labour costs of internal trainers for CVT courses,
(d) Costs for training centre etc.;
Use of LCS? Definition:
Expenditure on participation in courses; the fees of instructors from outside the enterprise; expenditure on teaching aids and tools used for training; sums paid by the enterprise to vocational-training organisations, etc. Subsidies linked to vocational training should be deducted
Expenditure on vocational-training services and facilities (also those for apprentices but not their wages and salaries), small repairs and maintenance of buildings and installations, excluding staff costs;
Still to be clarified
Contributions and receipts
Frequencies of LCS & CVTS, use of different sources per country
Item Participation and costs

11. CVTS vs AES results on hours of employer-sponsored training

12. 2005 CVTS results on costs

13. 2005 CVTS and 2008 LCS results on costs