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1 EUDET Networking Activity 2 “Detector R&D Network”
- What is NA2? - NA2 tasks K. Desch, University of Freiburg 1

2 What is NA2? Objectives (from Annex 1, description of work):
create a network of European institutions which are participating in ILC detector R&D ensure close cooperation provide common framework for exchange of information This is rather abstract – individual sub-tasks are much more specific Needs openness and contribution of all JRAs to make it a success NA2 goes beyond EUDET – build on existing activities Had a first brainstorming meeting in Dec 06 to see how to fill this with life 2

3 NA2 structure 6 Tasks: COMP Dedicated Computer Cluster
ANALYS Software Framework WEBINFO Web-Based Information System VALSIM Improve modelling of hadronic showers MICELEC Facilitate access to deep sub-micron technologies EXCHG Annual EUDET workshop & Mutual visits 3

4 COMP – Computer Cluster
Coordinator: P. Wienemann, Freiburg Contributing Institutions: DESY, Freiburg, Prague, Tel Aviv Scope: - Contribute the EU-funded resources to the ILC-VO in the LCG-Grid - Make sure they are available for EUDET related work, though - No need to setup sth. EUDET specific, integrate with world-wide activities - Facilitate the use of resources ( introduction by R. Poeschl on Friday) - Work on setting up web-based file catalogues, ‘standard’ job templates production system (limited person power) 4

5 COMP – Computer Cluster
Status of VO ILC: Quite significant resources already available – Make use of them! Snapshot CPU on 14/02: o(1000) free CPUs (often shared with other VOs, mainly LHC experiments) [ui] /afs/uni-freiburg.de/usr/p/pw79 > lcg-infosites --vo ilc ce #CPU Free Total Jobs Running Waiting ComputingElement grid10.lal.in2p3.fr:2119/jobmanager-pbs-ilc t2-ce0.desy.de:2119/jobmanager-lcgpbs-ilc grid-ce0.desy.de:2119/jobmanager-lcgpbs-ilc epgce1.ph.bham.ac.uk:2119/jobmanager-lcgpbs-ilc lcgce01.gridpp.rl.ac.uk:2119/jobmanager-lcgpbs-S ce1.pp.rhul.ac.uk:2119/jobmanager-pbs-ilcgrid heplnx201.pp.rl.ac.uk:2119/jobmanager-lcgpbs-ilc epgce1.ph.bham.ac.uk:2119/jobmanager-lcgpbs-short heplnx201.pp.rl.ac.uk:2119/jobmanager-lcgpbs-short ce.bfg.uni-freiburg.de:2119/jobmanager-lcgpbs-ilc ce.epcc.ed.ac.uk:2119/jobmanager-lcgpbs-ilc gw39.hep.ph.ic.ac.uk:2119/jobmanager-lcgpbs-ilc t2ce02.physics.ox.ac.uk:2119/jobmanager-lcgpbs-ilc ce01.esc.qmul.ac.uk:2119/jobmanager-lcgpbs-lcg2_long fal-pygrid-18.lancs.ac.uk:2119/jobmanager-lcgpbs-ilc 5

6 COMP – Computer Cluster
Snapshot Storage on 14/02: o(35 TB) (often shared with other VOs) [ui] /afs/uni-freiburg.de/usr/p/pw79 > lcg-infosites --vo ilc se ************************************************************** These are the related data for ilc: (in terms of SE) Avail Space(Kb) Used Space(Kb) Type SEs grid-se0.desy.de grid11.lal.in2p3.fr srm-dcache.desy.de se1.pp.rhul.ac.uk dcache.gridpp.rl.ac.uk heplnx204.pp.rl.ac.uk se01.esc.qmul.ac.uk gw38.hep.ph.ic.ac.uk se.bfg.uni-freiburg.de t2se01.physics.ox.ac.uk Contributing EUDET sites: DESY, Freiburg Prague and Tel Aviv to follow soon 6

7 ANALYS – Analysis + Software Framework
Coordinator: F. Gaede, DESY Contributing Institutions: DESY(~75%), Freiburg(~20%), Prague(~5%) Scope: Development of a common data analysis and simulation infrastructure - framework to exchange and compare testbeam data - allow for common data analysis - creation of data repository We cannot + should not do this alone - We should not reinvent wheels EUDET effort should completely integrate with ILC software work Basis to start + further develop + make usable for testbeam analysis: Existing ILC software packages at ilcsoft.desy.de 7

8 ANALYS – ILC software packages
from F. Gaede 8

9 ANALYS – ILC software packages
from F. Gaede 9

10 ANALYS – ILC software packages
It is important for EUDET JRAs to make use of the packages as much as possible Testbeam times = hectic times  start implementation for prototype detectors early  try to withstand the temptation of ‘quick&dirty’ hacks Development of working tools depends critically on active feedback and participation from the JRA’s and testbeam users in general Common software session on Friday at 9h 10

11 WEBINFO – Web-Based Information System
Coordinator: H. Abramowicz, Tel Aviv Contributing Institutions: Tel Aviv University (+ all !) Scope: (twofold) 1. Outside visibility of the project 2. Portal for EUDET-internal information (documentation, meetings, link to data,…) Again: avoid doubling of work/information If a good information structure is already existing elsewhere (which also might have a broader scope than EUDET, e.g. CALICE) information should stay there – but links to and from EUDET pages desirable 11

12 WEBINFO – Web-Based Information System
A first version of is online (thanks to Yan Ben Hammou, TAU) based on the plone CMS 12

13 WEBINFO – Web-Based Information System
Some Questions - meeting agendas: central system? where? which one? or just a collection of links? - user-editable project pages? authentification? - how to keep the (sub-)pages up-to-date? responsibilities? Parallel meeting on Friday, 9h (video-conf room in Bldg 2b) All JRA’s should be represented and come up with questions + suggestions 13

14 VALSIM – Modelling of Hadronic Showers in G4
Coordinator: J. Apostolakis (CERN) Contributing Institutions: CERN Scope: Improve the simulation tool’s modelling of hadronic showers (GEANT4) and create the validation tools for fine-grained calorimeters. Obviously, this is highly related to the JRA3 objectives. My view: this task (although formally in NA2) should be coordinated within JRA3 14

15 VALSIM – Potential work items
(from John Apostolakis): - Verification of physical processes - Review of physical processes for key detector materials (Verification) Materials: Si, W, gases (Ar, CO2, CH4, CF2), ... - Verification for key processes in relevant materials (using thin target data) - Comparison/validation of detailed interaction products d2/dE d in particular for hadronic interactions - Benchmarking of neutron modeling - Key aspects of use cases: neutrons as background, activation, hazard/shielding. - Identified/candidate benchmarks - Review / update data for data-driven neutron modelling (E<20 MeV) - Radiation effects in silicon: joint investigation with space community - Radiation and effects on endcap detectors 15

16 VALSIM – Potential work items
(from John Apostolakis): - Hadronic shower development - Neutron, EM, charged fractions - Hadronic shower shape: comparisons with data and regression testing - Effect of hadronic interactions in ECAL - Effect of choice of physics models, Assessing strengths/weaknesses of available physics lists - Other/Technical aspects Not all of these can be realized within EUDET Need to define priorities 16

17 MICELEC – Access to deep-subµ technology
Coordinator: A. Marchioro (CERN) Contributing Institutions: CERN Scope: Facilitate access to deep submicron technologies for radiation-tolerant microelectronics developments for front-end and readout ASICs. Design support and ILC coordinated access to a commercial silicon foundry for prototyping and production of integrated circuits in deep submicron CMOS technologies will be provided. A user (JRA)-driven task. Make use of the offer! 17

18 MICELEC – Why a common service
(From A. Marchioro): The entire HEP community is, even if agglomerated, only a very small customer of a modern foundry Total LHC volume (over 5 years) was about 2 days of production of a medium size supplier Cost of newer technology is increasing very fast ¼ mm 1 X, nm 4-5 X, nm 9-10 X Majority of designs in community are not “commodity” design Most HEP chips are Analog and Mixed Signal Most chips require special care for rad-tolerance 18

19 MICELEC – Support Technical:
- Validation of rad-tolerant technologies and design techniques - Libraries, design kit, tools, training and design guide-lines - Sharing of resources (e.g. general purpose layout for special devices, analog and digital blocks) Commercial: - Organization of contract for entire HEP community to support ¼ mm, nm and 90 nm CMOS technologies - Negotiation of common tools and IPs from third party vendors - Global Non-Disclosure-Agreement framework for entire community whenever applicable - Price competitive or below other silicon brokerage services - More flexible prototyping - Contract to cover possible commercial fall-out developments Submission and post-design support 19

20 MICELEC – Projects Timepix chip for Pixel readout of GEMs/Micromegas TPC Prototype R/O chip for SILC Modified ALTRO chip for pad TPC readout 20

21 DAQ Not a formal task in NA2
Needs coordination & interaction of JRAs anyhow First discussion on plans on Friday, 9h – Interested people, please join! 21

22 Information Mailing list: eudet-na2@desy.de is existing
Should contain all names contributing to NA2 Interested people from JRA’s are encouraged to subscribe! Send to Do we need dedicated JRA contact persons (so far communication through JRA AC’s) ? Mailing lists (in general): Activities have mailing lists DESY system tedious to maintain – look for alternatives? (e.g. CERN SIMBA) 22

23 Summary Networking activities are an important part the EUDET project
- Keep and improve contacts among ourselves and worldwide - Establish common computing infrastructure (hard- and software) - Tools for information flow - Common hardware projects (Microelectronics, DAQ,…) 23


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