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1 2nd Theoretical Virtual Observatory workshop
OV-France

2 VO-France TWG

3 From IAP (April 2006) to Lyon (June 2007)
Presentation of VO-France at ASSNA meeting (December 2003) First WG meeting just after the founding VO-France workshop (4-6 April 2005) Parallel session during Obernai winter school (5-7 November 2005) Joined ASSNA-ASOV workshop dedicated to TVO (5-6 April 2006) goals: Need to explain what is [not] Virtual Observatory Need to understand numerical simulations/codes specificity Need to see how a VO-compliant theoretical service could run and help to make science Make an effort to adapt each others to different languages! 18-19 june 2007 H. Wozniak / OV-France TVO workshop

4 From IAP (April 2006) to Lyon (June 2007)
What’s new ? Several important meetings and documents: Victoria INTEROP (May 2006) Start several documents (semantics, SNAP) and ‘task forces’ (telecons) Garching SNAP meeting (April 2007) SNAP DM Beijing INTEROP (see Gerard’s talk) Proposed to recommendation: Characterization DM, SSA (Theory?) 18-19 june 2007 H. Wozniak / OV-France TVO workshop

5 From IAP (April 2006) to Lyon (June 2007)
Goals of this meeting: Examples of TVO services (published or under development) Comparisons of experiments, problems Discussions on Data models SNAP protocol Other problems with models, protocols, standards, etc. Plenty of time for presentation + discussions Some topics that need in-depth discussion will go on Tuesday A few already identified: Data Models: characterization vs theory DM Theoretical spectra 18-19 june 2007 H. Wozniak / OV-France TVO workshop

6 H. Wozniak / OV-France TVO workshop
(flexible-) Agenda Monday 18th 10h00: VO-France/Theory in the VO: where are we? where we're going to? (HW) 10h30: Euro-VO DCA (HW) WP4 and Theory Expert Group Impact on OV-France 11h00: Last IVOA TIG news (GL) Simulation data model Access protocol Beijing INTEROP 11h30: Examples and demos of test implementation of services 11h30 : Millenium (GL) 13h00: Breakfast (ENS-L restaurant) 14h00: Examples and demos of test implementation of services (con't) 14h00 : Horizon Cosmo (JPL) 15h00 : Horizon GalMer (IG) 15h45 : Besancon model (BD) 16h15 : coffee break 16h30 : PDR service (FLP) 17h15 : DALIA data model (ML) 18h00 : POLLUX (HW for Ana Palacios, GRAAL Montpellier) 18h30 : discussions 18-19 june 2007 H. Wozniak / OV-France TVO workshop

7 How to reach the restaurant
Restaurant: Les Adrets, 30 rue du Bœuf Pedestrianized street From ENS: metro line B direction Charpennes Stop at ‘Saxe-Gambetta’ Change for line D, direction ‘Gare de Vaise’ Stop at ‘Vieux-Lyon Cathédrale Saint-Jean’ 18-19 june 2007 H. Wozniak / OV-France TVO workshop

8 H. Wozniak / OV-France TVO workshop
(flexible-) Agenda Tuesday, 19th (room B1, 4th floor, Math Department) 9h00: Specific discussions on: Data models: characterization, theory, etc. SNAP implementation: who, when Theoretical spectra: what is missing in SSAP? Do we need to promote TSAP? wait for SNAP 2.0? French TVO roadmap 18-19 june 2007 H. Wozniak / OV-France TVO workshop

9 Information: Web of Theory Working Group
Need an update of ‘on-going projects’ section Necessary for a number of census (EURO-VO DCA, OV-France, etc.) Visibility of this activity for CNAP, CNRS/INSU etc. Need to include ‘theoretical spectra’ services ? (eg POLLUX) 18-19 june 2007 H. Wozniak / OV-France TVO workshop

10 Information: Scientific council
Francoise Genova (CDS, Présidente) Philippe Berio (OCA/Gemini, GDR G2) Sylviane Chaintreuil (LESIA) Jean-Louis Counil (CNES) André Csillaghy (Département d'Informatique Haute-Ecole Spécialisée (HES) de la Suisse du Nord-Ouest) Jacques Delabrouille (PCC- Collège de France, Programme Astroparticules) Didier Despois (Observatoire de Bordeaux, GDR Exobiologie) Sylvain Doute (LPG, PNP) Marie-Lise Dubernet (LERMA, PCMI) Gilles Duvert (LAOG, ASHRA, GDR JMMC) Christian Jacquey (CESR, PNST) Jean-Paul Kneib (OAMP, PNC) Philippe Prugniel (CRAL, PNG) Evelyne Roueff (LUTH, Observatoire de Paris, PNPS) Hélène Sol (LUTH, Observatoire de Paris, PCHE) Pierre Valiron (LAOG) Hervé Wozniak (CRAL, ASSNA) 18-19 june 2007 H. Wozniak / OV-France TVO workshop

11 Information: new VO-France WG
Spectroscopy. Contact Philippe Prugniel (merged with images?) Theory. Contact Hervé Wozniak Workflow. Contact André Schaaff, Christian Surace, Eric Slezak, Franck Le Petit, Philippe Prugniel GRID. Contact André Schaaff, Hervé Wozniak Pierre Valiron Geodesy. Contact Florent Deleflie Images. Contact Eric Slezak (multi-D images) Planetology. Contact Alain Sarkissian 18-19 june 2007 H. Wozniak / OV-France TVO workshop

12 Euro-VO Data Center Alliance

13 H. Wozniak / OV-France TVO workshop
Euro-VO DCA Funded by the European Community (FP6), starting in September 2006 for a duration of 28 months (►end 2008) Alliance of Data Centre communities represented at a national level. DCA will: coordinate and assist European Data Centres to take up VO standards share best practice for data providers, consolidate operational requirements for VO-enabled tools and systems Enable the identification and promotion of scientific requirements from programs of strategic national interest that require VO technologies and services. Organization: Board (project coordinator: Françoise Genova) PCT: Project Coordination Team (Project manager: Mathias Depretz) IST: Internal Science Team members (chair: Mark Allen) TEG: Theoretical astrophysics Expert Group members (chair: Gerard Lemson) A number of Work Packages 18-19 june 2007 H. Wozniak / OV-France TVO workshop

14 H. Wozniak / OV-France TVO workshop
Euro-VO DCA Theory: Theoretical astronomy Expert Group (TEG) Pedro OSUNA (ESA) Santi CASSISI (INAF) Miguel CERVIÑO (INTA) Gerard LEMSON (MPG, chair) Joop SCHAYE (NOVA) Nic WALTON (LU) Hervé WOZNIAK (CNRS) WorkPackage 4 dedicated to theory (led by G. Lemson) aims at assessing the inclusion of theory data and services in the Virtual Observatory. tackled by the TEG, which has yearly meetings and discussions to establish a framework for the inclusion of Theoretical Astronomy Services in the VObs. The TEG organizes a Workshop Strong links with WP5 (VO ↔ GRID) 18-19 june 2007 H. Wozniak / OV-France TVO workshop

15 H. Wozniak / OV-France TVO workshop
Euro-VO DCA “Theory” census: theory specific questionnaire. the TEG questionnaire is not only directed at theory data centers, but is meant to gather feedback from astronomers (theorists *and* observers) in general on what they expect from a "theory VO". send out questionnaire (end of June) deadline end of September TEG face2face meeting beginning October to interpret results and come up with proposals write first draft of whitepaper, beginning of Dec 2007 to be discussed in ... Theory workshop with WP5-Grid in "month 17“ (January 2008) 18-19 june 2007 H. Wozniak / OV-France TVO workshop

16 H. Wozniak / OV-France TVO workshop
Euro-VO DCA White paper (outline): 1. Review work on "theory in the VObs" so far: whitepaper Lemson & Colberg IVOA Theory interest group (TIG) existing census results/inventory examples of concrete services, data sets published online, and VO-like 2. Gathering requirements How: theory specific questionnaire as contribution to Euro-VO DCA census (extend to IVOA TIG) + existing census results (if available) Describe results of questionnaire extract requirements from result discuss what (if) is being done to address these 3. Proposals for actions to IVOA Euro-VO VOTECH DCA FC individual data centers 4. Gather feedback on expectations of feasibility for these proposals and what resources are required roadmap cost estimates 18-19 june 2007 H. Wozniak / OV-France TVO workshop

17 H. Wozniak / OV-France TVO workshop
Euro-VO DCA Impact on VO-France (theory only) Funding of 1 year of engineer to help SNAP+DM implementation on 3 “projects”: HORIZON DBs Besançon model VO-Paris (PDR, Titan, Dense cores DB etc.) Interviews on last Thursday Start on September? Update of theory census at French level (including all aspects of theory) 18-19 june 2007 H. Wozniak / OV-France TVO workshop

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