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1 Panel discussion on Principles of Engagement
Andrew Smith, ELIXIR Tallinn, 2 October 2017

2 Format of panel discussion
Short intro and scene setting (Andrew Smith) Initial statement from each panel member, addressing particular questions Yannick Legré, EGI Ari Asmi, ICOS ERIC Damien, Lecarpentier, EUDAT Bob Jones, Cern Francoise Genova, Strasbourg Astronomical Data Centre CDS Open discussion Wrap-up The European Open Science Cloud for Research pilot project is funded by the European Commission, DG Research & Innovation under contract no

3 Questions to panel How is access to your services provided currently? For users, how do you access the services you require? What are the rules/principles around using those services? Are there legal/financial/ethical/organisational bottlenecks that would hinder your participation as a service provider in EOSC? Do different service types (for example, cloud, training, databases, interoperability) require different Principles of Engagement? How can cost-recovery be managed, especially for access to services provided in a different country to where researchers are based? As a service provider, how access to services your organization is providing, is organized at the moment? As a user, how access to services the research community you are representing uses, is organized at the moment? Which kind of Principles of Engagement the service / infrastructure you are using / providing has? Which kind of legal/financial/ethical and other organizational aspects do you foresee that could become barriers for participation – either using or providing services - in the EOSC? Which kind of principles of engagement the different components of the EOSC ie. cloud/compute, databases, training, interoperability, should have? How to arrange cost recovery for trans-national access when a researcher based in another member states would like to use a national e-infrastructure? Bartering? Cloud-credits? Market? EC trans-national, and virtual access funding instruments? Open access policy? …? Are open access policies (for instance based on scientific excellence and evaluation like in the case of some research infrastructures and PRACE) possible to be applied to national e-infrastructures? The European Open Science Cloud for Research pilot project is funded by the European Commission, DG Research & Innovation under contract no

4 Rules of Engagement considerations
HLEG original recommendations OSPP EOSC Declaration Others – responses to EOSC declaration Institutions own position papers and views The European Open Science Cloud for Research pilot project is funded by the European Commission, DG Research & Innovation under contract no

5 Understanding barriers to participation
Legal, ethical, financial and organisational Balance the needs of ‘users’ with ‘service providers’ Rules of Engagement recommendations that fit the ‘collective’ vision of EOSC How high do we want to set the barrier to participation? High, ie, small number of potential service providers? Low, open market for all? The European Open Science Cloud for Research pilot project is funded by the European Commission, DG Research & Innovation under contract no

6 WP2 PoE - Steps so far Wide but shallow review potential Service providers, based on public documentation e-Infras Domain specific RIs, including ESFRIs and EiroForum orgs Commercial vendors (ie AWS) Other initiatives bound by Charter Deeper analysis of smaller number of potential Service providers, e.g. EGI, PRACE, GEANT, OpenAire ELIXIR, SeaDataNet… Final recommendations to follow in late 2017 The European Open Science Cloud for Research pilot project is funded by the European Commission, DG Research & Innovation under contract no

7 Findings so far – a story of variation…
Large variation in the services provided Large variation in organisation type and permanence of the infrastructure/project Large variation in how they integrate service providers Large variation in how the services run by providers are evaluated and monitored Large variation in pricing policy The European Open Science Cloud for Research pilot project is funded by the European Commission, DG Research & Innovation under contract no

8 The European Open Science Cloud for Research pilot project is funded by the European Commission, DG Research & Innovation under contract no


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