doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 1 TGn Opening Report Dallas, TX 802 Plenary November ‘06 Date: Authors: Notice: This document has been prepared to assist IEEE It is offered as a basis for discussion and is not binding on the contributing individual(s) or organization(s). The material in this document is subject to change in form and content after further study. The contributor(s) reserve(s) the right to add, amend or withdraw material contained herein. Release: The contributor grants a free, irrevocable license to the IEEE to incorporate material contained in this contribution, and any modifications thereof, in the creation of an IEEE Standards publication; to copyright in the IEEE’s name any IEEE Standards publication even though it may include portions of this contribution; and at the IEEE’s sole discretion to permit others to reproduce in whole or in part the resulting IEEE Standards publication. The contributor also acknowledges and accepts that this contribution may be made public by IEEE Patent Policy and Procedures: The contributor is familiar with the IEEE 802 Patent Policy and Procedures, including the statement "IEEE standards may include the known use of patent(s), including patent applications, provided the IEEE receives assurance from the patent holder or applicant with respect to patents essential for compliance with both mandatory and optional portions of the standard." Early disclosure to the Working Group of patent information that might be relevant to the standard is essential to reduce the possibility for delays in the development process and increase the likelihood that the draft publication will be approved for publication. Please notify the Chair as early as possible, in written or electronic form, if patented technology (or technology under patent application) might be incorporated into a draft standard being developed within the IEEE Working Group. If you have questions, contact the IEEE Patent Committee Administrator at. Name Company Address Phone Bruce Kraemer Marvell Garth Hillman AMD 5402 East Ben White, Austin TX (512) Sheung Li Atheros 529 Almanor Ave, Sunnyvale, CA (408) Adrian Stephens Intel Corporation 15 JJ Thompson Avenue, Cambridge, CB3 0FD, UK +1 (503) om 5488 Marvell Lane, Santa Clara, CA, 95054
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 2 Welcome to Dallas, Texas Monday – Thursday, November Hyatt Meetings Rooms TGN 1 (Main Room) = Landmark B (Lobby) TGN 2 (ad hoc) = Cumberland L (Exhibit) TGN 3 (ad hoc) = Reverchon AB (Atrium) TGN 4 (ad hoc) = Cumberland H (Exhibit)
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doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 4 Inappropriate Topics for IEEE WG Meetings Don’t discuss the validity/essentiality of patents/patent claims Don’t discuss the cost of specific patent use Don’t discuss licensing terms or conditions Don’t discuss product pricing, territorial restrictions, or market share Don’t discuss ongoing litigation or threatened litigation Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed… do formally object. If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at or visit This slide set is available at Approved by IEEE-SA Standards Board – March 2003 (Revised January 2006)
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 5 Attendance, Voting & Document Status Make sure your badges are correct Questions on Voting status, Ballot pool, Access to Reflector or member’s area –see Harry Worstell – If you plan to make a submission be sure it does not contain company logos or advertising
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 6 Attendance 1.Register 2.Indicate attendance
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 7 TGn Quick Review of Events prior to this meeting
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 8 One Page History of TGn HTSG formed – First meeting (Sep-11-’02 Monterey) TGn formed – First meeting (Sep-15-’03 Singapore) Began call for proposals (May 17 ’04 Garden Grove) 32 First round presentations (Sep 13 ’04 Berlin) Down selected to one proposal (Mar ’05 Atlanta) –first confirm vote failed Confirmation vote #2 failed - reset to 3 proposals -left the May ‘05 meeting with a serious deadlock. (Cairns) 3 proposal groups agreed to a joint proposal activity (Jul ’05 San Francisco) JP proposal accepted by vote of 184/0/4, editor instructed to create draft (Jan ’06 Waikoloa) Baseline specification converted into Draft 1.0 (335p). Letter ballot issued (LB84) March ’06 (Denver) and closed on April 29 (failed) Draft 1.0 Comment resolution begins (May ’06 Jacksonville) Approved 6711 editorial and 1041 technical resolutions; Created Draft 1.03 (Jul ’06 San Diego) Approved 568 technical resolutions in Sep ’06 Melbourne; Created Draft 1.06 (388p)
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 9 11n - Overall timeline PAR Approved TGn Formed Selection Process & Criteria Call for Proposals Proposal Presentation s Down Select 1st WG Letter Ballot First Sponsor Letter Ballot REVCOM Approval Publication HT SG Formed Joint proposal Confirmation 2 nd WG Letter Ballot
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 10 Comment Resolution Events Weekly teleconferences Ad hoc – Melbourne, AU Sep ‘06 Interim – Melbourne Sep ‘06 Ad hoc – Portland, OR Oct 17 – 19 ‘06 Ad hoc – Dallas, TX Nov 8-10 ‘06 Plenary – Dallas, TX Nov ‘06 Ad hoc – London, UK Jan ‘07 Interim – London, UK Jan ‘07 Goal = release of Letter Ballot 2.0
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 11 TGn Ad Hoc Organization Ad Hoc TopicAd hoc leader PSMPNaveen Kakani CA DocSheung Li Frame FormatPeter Loc PHYJim Petranovich MACMatt Fischer CoexistenceDon Schultz Beamforming & AdaptationJohn Ketchum Joonsuk Kim GeneralJon Rosdahl EditorialAdrian Stephens
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 12 Ad Hoc Output Document Summary Revision as of Ad Hoc Topic.xls resolution file #Sep 17 8 amNov13 8am Beamforming & Adaptation PSMP General MAC PHY Editorial Frame Format Coexistence CA Doc73104
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide Draft Revision Procedure Editor prepares revision Chair reviews and uploads 1 page submission on 802wirelesworld public server indicating new document exists in the private server draft area. Harry receives draft and posts in members area Server area will differentiate approved from un- approved versions
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 14 Draft Revision History Draft 1.0- Approved by WG for letter ballot (LB84) Draft Working draft –contains proposed editorials Draft Contains editorials only - TGn (July ‘06) Draft Working draft -Contains July technical resolutions Draft Clean version of TGn (Sep ‘06) Draft Working draft -Contains Sep technical resolutions Draft Clean version of TGn (Nov ‘06) Draft Working draft -Contains Nov technical resolutions Draft Clean version of TGn (Jan ‘06) Black = actual past events, Blue = expected future events
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 15 Letter Ballot #1 Comments EditorialTechnical Editorial & Technical UniqueDuplicate
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 16 Comment Allocation Technical 3124
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 17 Comment Allocation Technical Approved through September & included in D1.06 Resolutions Prepared But Not Approved Resolution Not completed
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 18 Another Status View
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 19 TGn Minutes of Sep ’06 06/1408r1 Executive Summary (also see Chairs’ meeting doc r5 and closing report doc r0): Meeting focused on comment resolution (CR). There were 3000 unique technical comments from LB84; ~1000 were resolved at the July meeting and another ~1000 between July and September and at the September session so that ~1000 remain. There were (#73-#34=) 39 motions passed to adopt the ~1000 July-Sept comment resolutions. [#34 was the number assigned to the last CID related comment at the July meeting] Draft D1.04 was approved Goal for Nov Plenary and January Interim sessions is to resolve the remaining ~1000 comments and authorize the second.11n WG letter ballot after the January meeting. Oct/Nov Teleconference (Wednesdays 11-1 PM ET) schedule agreed to: –Oct 4 – General –Oct. 11 & 25 – Coexistence –Nov. 1 Phy October Ad Hoc Location was changed from Santa Clara to Portland – Intel Cornell Oaks campus November 9-11 Ad Hoc at Dallas Hyatt Thursday thru Saturday before the Plenary meeting Timeline – no change; supplement will be published April 2008
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 20 Approve Minutes Motion to approve September ‘06 TGn minutes as contained in r1 Move: Second:
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 21 Planning Discussion for Dallas Plenary Meeting
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 22 November 2006 (Dallas) WG Agenda
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 23 TGn –Nov ‘06 Schedule Time MondayTuesdayWednesdayThursday am 1 8:00-10:00 Ad hocs am 2 10:30-12:30 Ad hocs pm 1 13:30-15:30 Ad hocs Full TGn pm 2 16:00-18:00 Full TGn eve 19:30-21:30 Nov 13Nov 14Nov 15Nov 16 Meeting Rooms for the week: …… TGn ad hocs PHY & Coex Reunion F
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 24 TGn –Nov ‘06 Schedule Time MondayTuesdayWednesdayThursday am 1 8:00-10:00 Ad hocs am 2 10:30-12:30 Ad hocs pm 1 13:30-15:30 Ad hocs Full TGn pm 2 16:00-18:00 Full TGn Timeline Ad hocs Telecons eve 19:30-21:30 Nov 13Nov 14Nov 15Nov 16 Meeting Rooms for the week: Landmark B, Cumberland L, H, Reverchon AB 8-11 TGn ad hocs PHY & Coex Reunion F
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 25 Ad hocs during Dallas Plenary
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 26 Hyatt Meetings Room Capacities TGN 1 (Main Room) = Landmark B (Lobby) 150 TGN 2 (ad hoc) = Cumberland L (Exhibit) 56 TGN 3 (ad hoc) = Reverchon AB (Atrium) 42 TGN 4 (ad hoc) = Cumberland H (Exhibit) 30
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 27 Tuesday ad hoc schedule TGk TGr Synch
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 28 Wednesday ad hoc schedule
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 29 Thursday ad hoc schedule
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 30 Approve Agenda Motion to approve November ’06 TGn agenda as contained on slide (with any minuted amendments). Move: Second:
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 31 Planning Discussion for London ad hoc January 10, 11, 12, 13 ’07 Wed, Thu, Fri, Sat
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 32 January ad hoc and session TGn ad hoc Session
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 33 January Ad hoc Hilton Metropole IEEE Interim Hilton Paddington TGn ad hoc
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 34 London locations 100m
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 35 London ad hoc ItemPer attendee cost ($, US) Food558 Meeting rooms239 Network28 Admin fees125 Total950 Assume 35 attendees
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 36
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 37 Technical Editor’s Report r1
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 38 TGn Ad Hoc Status Reports Ad Hoc TopicAd hoc leader PSMPNaveen Kakani CA DocSheung Li Frame FormatPeter Loc PHYJim Petranovich MACMatt Fischer CoexistenceDon Schultz Beamforming & AdaptationJohn Ketchum Joonsuk Kim GeneralJon Rosdahl EditorialAdrian Stephens
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doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission May 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 40
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 41 TGn –Nov ‘06 Schedule Time MondayTuesdayWednesdayThursday am 1 8:00-10:00 Ad hocs am 2 10:30-12:30 Ad hocs pm 1 13:30-15:30 Ad hocs Full TGn pm 2 16:00-18:00 Full TGn Timeline Ad hocs Telecons eve 19:30-21:30 Nov 13Nov 14Nov 15Nov 16 Meeting Rooms for the week: Landmark B, Cumberland L, H, Reverchon AB 8-11 TGn ad hocs PHY & Coex Reunion F
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 42 Ad hocs during Dallas Plenary
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 43 Primary Ad hocs during Dallas Plenary
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 44 Wednesday ad hoc schedule TGk Synch 9 am
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide TGn - Thursday ad hoc schedule
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 46 Tuesday - TGn Full - Ad Hoc Leader Motions Ad Hoc TopicAd hoc leaderDiscussions/Motions PSMPNaveen Kakani 1 – 5 min CA DocSheung Li Frame FormatPeter Loc PHYJim Petranovich min MACMatt Fischer CoexistenceDon Schultz Eldad Perahia Beamforming & Adaptation John Ketchum Joonsuk Kim min GeneralJon Rosdahl EditorialAdrian Stephens 2 – 10 min
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doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission May 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 48
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 49 Thursday ad hoc schedule
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 50 Wednesday - TGn Full - Ad Hoc Leader Motions Ad Hoc TopicAd hoc leaderDiscussions/Motions PSMPNaveen Kakani Done CA DocSheung Li Done Frame FormatPeter Loc 0 – 0 minutes PHYJim Petranovich 5 – 30 minutes -pen MACMatt Fischer 3 – 10 minutes CoexistenceDon Schultz Eldad Perahia minutes -last Beamforming & Adaptation John Ketchum Joonsuk Kim 2 – 15 minutes GeneralJon Rosdahl Status - 2 minutes EditorialAdrian Stephens 1- 5 minutes
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 51
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission May 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 52
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 53 Thursday - TGn Full - Ad Hoc Leader Motions Ad Hoc Topic Ad hoc leader Discussions/Motions Critical times? PSMP Naveen Kakani Done CA Doc Sheung Li Done Frame Format Peter Loc X – Y minutes PHY Jim Petranovich 4 – 30 minutes MAC Matt Fischer 1 – 5 minutes Coexistence Don Schultz Eldad Perahia 2 votes - 10 minutes 40MHz Discussion/vote – 45 min Beamforming & Adaptation John Ketchum Joonsuk Kim 1 – 10 minutes General Jon Rosdahl Status - 15 minutes Editorial Adrian Stephens 0 – 0 minutes
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 54 Planning Discussion
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 55 Time Line Discussion
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 56 11n - Overall timeline PAR Approved TGn Formed Selection Process & Criteria Call for Proposals Proposal Presentation s Down Select 1st WG Letter Ballot First Sponsor Letter Ballot REVCOM Approval Publication HT SG Formed Joint proposal Confirmation 2 nd WG Letter Ballot
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 57 Published 2007 Standards Board Meeting Schedule Dec Sep Jun Mar Nov Aug May Feb Oct Jul Apr Jan days 40 days 50 days 40 days Submission deadlineStds Board meeting Apr Oct Mar Excom meeting dates EC
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 58 Expected 2008 Standards Board Meeting Schedule Dec Sep Jun Mar Nov Aug May Feb Oct Jul Apr Jan days 40 days 50 days 40 days Submission deadlineStds Board meeting Apr Oct Mar EC Concern
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 59 End of Process Event Scheduling Current Plan of Record Concern Current rules suggest this schedule
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 60 End of Process Event Scheduling Current Plan of Record Concern
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 61 End of Process Event Scheduling Current Plan of Record Concern Project Earlier completion Project later completion
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 62 Publication Amendment Publication time after ratification by Standards Board 30 days Draft Publication time after successful WG Letter Ballot ~ 10 days
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 63 Time Line Backup Details
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 64 IEEE SA Meeting Schedule
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 65 IEEE SA Meeting Schedule
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 66 Teleconferences
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 67 Teleconference Windows teleconferences
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 68 Teleconferences Wednesday 11:00 – 13:00 ET Blocking events Ad hoc group Meeting chairDate Unique Bridge and code Nov 22 Nov 29 Dec 06 Dec 13 Dec 20 Dec 27 Jan 03 Jan 10 Ad hoc Jan 17 Interim Call number Time off
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 69 Teleconferences Request authorization for TGn to conduct teleconferences for the purpose of comment resolution every Wednesday from 11:00 to 13:00 ET from 29-November to 2 weeks after the close of the 802 March plenary (March 16, 2007).
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 70 Ad hocs
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 71 London ad hoc Motion: Request that WG authorize TGn to conduct an ad hoc meeting for the purpose of comment resolution in London, UK during the period from Wed Jan 10, 2007 to Saturday Jan 13, 2007 With confirmation obtained from TGn during the Nov Plenary
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 72 Ad hoc Request authorization for TGn to conduct an ad hoc meeting for the purpose of comment resolution from Wednesday 09-January 2007 through Saturday 11-January 2007 at the London UK Hilton Paddington Hotel.
doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 73 Ad hoc Request authorization for TGn to investigate venues at which it could conduct ad hoc meetings for the purpose of comment resolution following the close of letter ballot 2.0 either 1. immediately following the March plenary meeting in Orlando with the preferred location being the Caribe Royale Hotel 2. an acceptable location during mid-April pending final review/approval to be held during the January interim meeting in London
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doc.: IEEE /1662r4 Submission November 2006 Bruce Kraemer, MarvellSlide 75 Ad hoc Request authorization for TGn to investigate venues at which it could conduct an ad hoc meeting for the purpose of comment resolution following the close of letter ballot 2.0 to be held just prior to the May Interim in Montreal Canada Wednesday May 9 thru Friday May with the preferred option being the Fairmont Hotel pending final review/approval to be held during the March plenary meeting in Orlando