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INFSO-RI Enabling Grids for E-sciencE External Projects Integration Summary – Trigger for Open Discussion Fotis Karayannis, Joanne Lawson, NA5 EGEE 4 th Conference, 24 – 28 October 2005, Pisa

Enabling Grids for E-sciencE INFSO-RI EGEE 4th Conference, October 2005, Pisa 2 Summary Outline Summary of related projects –Middleware, Infrastructure, Applications –Training and dissemination –Policy –Security Synergy recommendations –EGEE’s suggestions Open Discussion

Enabling Grids for E-sciencE INFSO-RI EGEE 4th Conference, October 2005, Pisa 3 Middleware Projects utilising EGEE middleware: –SEE-GRID –DILIGENT –BIOINFOGRID –EUChinaGrid –EUMedGrid –EELA –BalticGrid

Enabling Grids for E-sciencE INFSO-RI EGEE 4th Conference, October 2005, Pisa 4 Infrastructure Projects utilising and/or gradually integrating to the EGEE infrastructure: –SEE-GRID –BIOINFOGRID –EUChinaGrid –EUMedGrid –BalticGrid –How about EELA? Plans to (partly?) integrate pilot test-bed to EGEE?

Enabling Grids for E-sciencE INFSO-RI EGEE 4th Conference, October 2005, Pisa 5 Applications Projects integrating their applications to EGEE and/or populating EGEE VOs with their local users: SEE-GRID/DILIGENT/DEISA already collaborating BIOINFOGRID –Integrating its applications to EGEE? (not clear) –Also to organize an international conference for GRID Bioinformatics applications towards the end of the project, open to the international Bioinformatics user community. EUChinaGrid – will support EGEE applications (LHC) and other pilot applications. EUMEDGRID, –EGEE applications (LHC) and other pilot applications will be supported; new regional applications will be investigated. EELA – will use Biomedical and HEP applications already identified and migrated in EGEE. BalticGrid –will have application pilots and Regional Special Interest Groups.

Enabling Grids for E-sciencE INFSO-RI EGEE 4th Conference, October 2005, Pisa 6 Training and Dissemination Cooperation in Training/dissemination: SEE-GRID/DILIGENT –Joint training and dissemination events BIOINFOGRID –will be building on the experiences of EGEE in training. ETICS –has an explicit mandate to train and disseminate. EUChinaGrid –foresees joint activities with other projects BELIEF, etc.). EUMEDGRID –foresees joint activities with other projects (SEEGRID, etc.) ISSEG –has disseminating expertise as one of its two main aims. EELA – will use GILDA virtual laboratory for grid dissemination and knowledge dissemination. BalticGrid –will collaborate with ICEAGE on education and training and with BELIEF on dissemination and outreach.

Enabling Grids for E-sciencE INFSO-RI EGEE 4th Conference, October 2005, Pisa 7 Grid Policy Contributions Policy cooperation: SEE-GRID –Policy workshop on NGI during the 2 nd EGEE conference ETICS –will play a part in defining and improving standards in the area of middleware and software engineering. EELA –will follow the international policy developments made in the context of EGEE. BalticGrid –has an activity dedicated to Policy and Standards Development, to include working with the eIRG, the GGF and EUGridPMA. e-IRGSP –Support the e-IRG in cooperation with EGEE, EGEE-II and other projects

Enabling Grids for E-sciencE INFSO-RI EGEE 4th Conference, October 2005, Pisa 8 Security cooperation How about security: –Extending the EUGridPMA EU Grid Policy Management Authority and the IGTF (International Grid Trust Federation) to other areas?  SEE-GRID already a relying party! –Extending the Joint Security Policy Group (JSPG) and the Middleware Security Groups (MWSG) to other projects?  SEE-GRID active member! –Cooperation between NRENs-GRIDs (GN2-EGEE) for a common AAI (Authentication and Authorisation Infrastructure)?

Enabling Grids for E-sciencE INFSO-RI EGEE 4th Conference, October 2005, Pisa 9 Other areas? Standards… –Cooperation among project on standardisation bodies is essential –Ideas?

Enabling Grids for E-sciencE INFSO-RI EGEE 4th Conference, October 2005, Pisa 10 EGEE’s suggestions for synergy (from EGEE’s DNA5.3-4) EGEE proposes the following areas of cooperation: –Infrastructure-related  Integrating resources to the EGEE infrastructure or sharing resources, common policies or procedures to user support and operations –Middleware  Using the gLite middleware  Making different middleware packages interoperable –Applications  Integrating new VOs to EGEE or populating the existing ones –Training and dissemination  Exchange experiences and ideas to optimise training  Provide electronic tools to support training  Joint training and dissemination events –Security  EUGridPMA and IGTF  JSPG and MWSG  Common AAI infrastructure –Policies  Contribute to e-IRG white papers, workshops, roadmaps  SEE-GRID2 regional infrastructure projects’ concertation workshop  EGEE-II Policy Workshops (NGI-EGO related)

Enabling Grids for E-sciencE INFSO-RI EGEE 4th Conference, October 2005, Pisa 11 How to implement synergy (from EGEE’s DNA5.3-4) Joint Working Groups among different projects/initiatives –EGEE floats the idea of separate working groups in the above synergy areas.  In some areas, it is felt more appropriate to do this in a more closed circle (e.g. Grid only projects for Grid infrastructure areas)  In other areas such as AAI and policies, broader cooperation should be attempted, e.g. with GN2 –Cooperation should be sought among different efforts and layers.  For example, bringing technology and policy experts together, such as those from the concertation meetings and the e-IRG  Joint workshops between e-IRG and the concertation ones could be attempted. –Bilateral working groups (that could be extended to the related and other projects) as the TERENA NREN-Grid one  EGEE-GN2 cooperation on AAI and advance networking reservation

Enabling Grids for E-sciencE INFSO-RI EGEE 4th Conference, October 2005, Pisa 12 How we might proceed (from EGEE’s DNA5.3-4) –Priorities should be set - forming too many groups might be counterproductive –Co-funding for working groups (e.g. by the EC or other sources) would be preferable, so we get committed and/or dedicated personnel –Concertation projects are also possible, where each project participates with funded effort. Over-commitment of personnel should be taken into account. –The evolution towards the next phase of the e-Infrastructure (FP7) should be also handled by a cross-project group with representatives from all stakeholders –Cooperation with other geographical areas such as the US and Asia-Pacific is vital for a Global infrastructure. Examples such as the IGTF (which expanded worldwide from a European beginning=EUGridPMA) should be encouraged –The EGEE conferences are a major driver towards concertation efforts, but should not exclude other events with broader scope.

Enabling Grids for E-sciencE INFSO-RI EGEE 4th Conference, October 2005, Pisa 13 Open Discussion, Synergy areas Synergy areas, Other? –Infrastructure-related  Integrating resources to the EGEE infrastructure or sharing resources, common policies or procedure to users support and operations –Middleware  Using the gLite middleware  Making different middleware packages interoperable –Applications  Integrating new VOs to EGEE or populating the existing ones –Training and dissemination  Exchange experiences and ideas to optimise training  Provide electronic tools to support training  Joint training and dissemination events –Security  EUGridPMA and IGTF  JSPG and MWSG  Common AAI infrastructure –Policies  Contribute to e-IRG white papers, workshops, roadmaps –Other??  Please give us your feedback

Enabling Grids for E-sciencE INFSO-RI EGEE 4th Conference, October 2005, Pisa 14 Open Discussion, How? Joint working groups? –e-IRG is planning to form working groups in areas such as AAI policies, Accounting, Network Reservation from the Grid environment, Acceptable Usage Policies, etc. –Groups have been formed as part of the concertation activities, mostly related to security –TERENA NREN-GRID working group  Merging / Cooperating among the above?  Combining concertation event with e-IRG workshop? How about this group of projects? –Form working groups per area identified above, plus a generic one? –Use EGEE conferences as major enablers for concertation? How about other areas: Standards? –Not straightforward. Commitment is crucial and probably requires dedicated funding/personel

Enabling Grids for E-sciencE INFSO-RI EGEE 4th Conference, October 2005, Pisa 15 Thank you Thank you for your ideas and suggestions! –FotisKaragiannis at cern.ch –JoanneLawson at cern.ch