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Oct. 2007GENI meeting Minneapolis Opt-in WG Henning Schulzrinne Columbia University

Oct. 2007GENI meeting Minneapolis Agenda 5’ Agenda bashing, scribe 15’ Introductory remarks 30’ Jay Lepreau 100’ Discussion: –scoping –motivation –technical components –legal & “IRB” issues –risk reduction activities

Oct. 2007GENI meeting Minneapolis Tentative charter Wiki:

Oct. 2007GENI meeting Minneapolis Who are the users? ~ Internet 2 –students at major research universities –researchers Early adopters –e.g., open wireless Your mother –why? how? Bad guys –we’ll need more of them!

Oct. 2007GENI meeting Minneapolis Scoping GENI infrastructure OAM Services for experimenters Services for users

Oct. 2007GENI meeting Minneapolis A modest proposal GENI needs users, with motivation New applications: –health advice –international cooperation opportunities –investment banking Even willing to pay for services!

Oct. 2007GENI meeting Minneapolis Opt-in views GENI as ISP –alternative network interface –“Internet 3” Generalized end-user services –services running on user devices 2.0” In-network services –services provided by GENI infrastructure –“PlanetLab 2.0”

Oct. 2007GENI meeting Minneapolis Opt-in retail & wholesale Retail –each user decides per service per destination Wholesale –by origin: campus dorm, open access wireless network –by destination: reach group of services

Oct. 2007GENI meeting Minneapolis User motivation bribe’em, woo’em, force’em Cheaper –subsidy, not inherently - “bribery” Faster –Not likely for I2 users More reliable –unlikely for experimental system Less restricted –also not likely for I2 users

Oct. 2007GENI meeting Minneapolis Technology pieces Virtual ISP –easy for WLAN-style access or VLANs –not hard if users can configure DHCP server Non-IPv4/6 services –just another network interface - leverage IPv6 experience L7 services –addressed as usual Experiment description and user opt-in –formalized description mechanism instead of one- off IRB process?

Oct. 2007GENI meeting Minneapolis Incentives Can users be provided with trade-able incentives? –provide CPU cycles, storage, wireless access, human cycles,... –money = medium of exchange (vs. barter) Virtual currency? –cf. Linden Dollars (SecondLife)

Oct. 2007GENI meeting Minneapolis Legal & IRB issues Informed consent? Just privacy statements? –P3P? Who is responsible if bad guys get SSNs and credit card numbers from user machines running GENI services? CALEA?

Oct. 2007GENI meeting Minneapolis Risk reduction activities What technologies are needed? End system VM? User service selection? Experiment description?