Chris Johnson Scientific Computing and Imaging Institute University of Utah Chris Johnson Scientific Computing and Imaging Institute University of Utah Pros and Cons of CSE Programs vs. Disciplinary Programs, the “Different Ways” to Approach CSE Training Pros and Cons of CSE Programs vs. Disciplinary Programs, the “Different Ways” to Approach CSE Training

Scientific Computing and Imaging Institute, University of Utah Utah Computational Science History Started CES Graduate Certificate Program (CS, Math) 1994 – Expanded Program 2000 – M.S. in CES (multiple options) Ph.D. in Computing (track in Scientific Computing) Started CES Graduate Certificate Program (CS, Math) 1994 – Expanded Program 2000 – M.S. in CES (multiple options) Ph.D. in Computing (track in Scientific Computing)

DOE/SciDAC Visualization and Analytics Center for Enabling Technologies DOE/ASCI Center for the Simulation of Accidental Fires and Explosions DOE/SciDAC Scientific Data Management DOE/SciDAC CCA NIH NAMIC NIH CBC Center for Interactive Ray-Tracing and Photorealistic Visualization NIH/NCRR Center for Integrative Biomedical Computing

Scientific Computing and Imaging Institute, University of Utah Research Example - DOE C-SAFE

Scientific Computing and Imaging Institute, University of Utah Types of CSE Programs Certificate/Minor Programs M.S. Degrees Ph.D. Degrees vey/ Certificate/Minor Programs M.S. Degrees Ph.D. Degrees vey/

Scientific Computing and Imaging Institute, University of Utah PITAC Report:

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(Im)Possible Structural Changes Completely Restructure Colleges and Departments - Probably Not Possible Start Over and Build a New Structure - Possible, But Costly: KAUST, Okinawa Institute of Science and Technology Completely Restructure Colleges and Departments - Probably Not Possible Start Over and Build a New Structure - Possible, But Costly: KAUST, Okinawa Institute of Science and Technology

Scientific Computing and Imaging Institute, University of Utah Disciplines vs. Interdisciplinary Need strong programs in both! Models: Departments - Disciplines Centers and Institutes - Interdisciplinary College or University Wide Interdisciplinary Education Programs NSF or DOE or NIH National Research Center No One Size Fits All! Need strong programs in both! Models: Departments - Disciplines Centers and Institutes - Interdisciplinary College or University Wide Interdisciplinary Education Programs NSF or DOE or NIH National Research Center No One Size Fits All!

Scientific Computing and Imaging Institute, University of Utah Organization Creation Top Down vs. Bottom Up Research vs. Courses Oversight and Management Department Based College Based University Based Creation Top Down vs. Bottom Up Research vs. Courses Oversight and Management Department Based College Based University Based

Scientific Computing and Imaging Institute, University of Utah Barriers, Failures, Successes University System is Silo-Based Administrators “Talk About” Interdisciplinary Programs, But Don’t Follow Through Colleagues Don’t View CS&E as a Real Discipline Lack of a Reward System for CS&E Research and Education(see PITAC Report) University System is Silo-Based Administrators “Talk About” Interdisciplinary Programs, But Don’t Follow Through Colleagues Don’t View CS&E as a Real Discipline Lack of a Reward System for CS&E Research and Education(see PITAC Report)

Scientific Computing and Imaging Institute, University of Utah Barriers, Failures, Successes Tremendous turf battles Hard to obtain resources for interdisciplinary programs Hard to organize/manage programs across different departments Certificate was not substantial enough - courses were popular M.S. degree popular Students wanted to continue in a computational Ph.D. program Tremendous turf battles Hard to obtain resources for interdisciplinary programs Hard to organize/manage programs across different departments Certificate was not substantial enough - courses were popular M.S. degree popular Students wanted to continue in a computational Ph.D. program

Scientific Computing and Imaging Institute, University of Utah New Definition of Computing Jim Foley, Computing Research News (CRA), Vol. 14, No. 4, Sept. 2002

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