Fiber update Zhiwen Zhao/Mehdi Meziane 2012/02/12.

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Fiber update Zhiwen Zhao/Mehdi Meziane 2012/02/12

WLS fiber comparison

Design Consideration Shashlik type EC has enough light, but less comparing to other type. (400 p.e./MIP for COMPASS module). we still want to minimize light loss. Fiber aperture is about degree. Use optics to reduce area in fiber connection could mean large light loss. We plan to 1 to 1 connection with same size fiber to reduce light loss. X to 1 connection without area reduction doesn’t show design or cost advantage so far.

Fiber cost 1mm WLS1mm clear0.5mm WLS 0.5mm clear Total cost Length(km) Saint- Gobain/ Bicron BCF91A $0.87/$87 $150k BCF98 $0.64/$64 $330k BCF91A $0.72/$1.44 $2.5k Assume $2.5k $500k KURARAY Y‐11(200)MS $3.39/$ k Clear‐PSMS $2.15/$215 $1097k Y‐11(200)MS $2.04/$4.08 $7k Assume $7k $1700k Length estimation based on 1700 modules 1.100*1m of 1mm WLS fiber per module shower part 2.100*3m (average of 1200*2m and 500*5m) of 1mm clear fiber per module shower part 3.2*1m of 0.5mm WLS fiber per module pre-shower part 4.2*3m of 0.5mm clear fiber per module pre-shower part Other notes 1.Quote will change slightly according to quantity 2.We have 2mm fiber quote from both suppliers, they cost about 4 times of 1mm fibers so the price scale by volume. It doesn’t save us.

Meeting with Saint-Gobain Met with Saint-Gobain sales on 2/7 What we learned – Bicron has fibers in square or round shape. The square one is a bit more expensive due to larger volume. – We need to check with IHEP what shape was used in COMPASS module or what’s better used for us. – Their world fiber production facility is at Ohio, so if we need large volume fibers shipped to Russia, there will be cost and time. – They make scintillator with various thickness. To embed WLS, they can do groove drilling. They think the mold-with-hole method Fermi lab used could have scintillation light reduced by half, but it could still be enough for EC use. What we asked – Keep contact and update quote as the project moves forward. – The price quote were based on spool, they can look into cost if they have fibers cut at our required length. – They will look into feasibility and cost of making fiber connection, e.g. glue 1 to 1 and sealed within a plastic tube.

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WLS fiber in scintillator pad SoLID Collaboration Meeting7Jin Huang, for EC group

Fiber WSL fiber in shower, 100/module – Bicron BCF-91A multi-clad, 1/e length >3.5m 1mmD, bend 20cmD (?) $0.87/m less rad hard WLS fiber in preshower pad, 1-2/module – KURARAY Y-11(200)MS multi-clad, 1/e length >3.5m 0.5mmD, bend 5cmD $1/m more rad hard Clear fiber for both, /module – Bicron BCF-98 $1/m SoLID Collaboration Meeting8Jin Huang, for EC group

Fiber connection Shower will use 1-1 bundle fiber connector. Used in previous experiments (LHCb, Minos) custom made fiber connector $175/module, quote by LEONI Preshower will use comercial 1-1 single fiber connector, a few $ each.

Oct 5, 2012sPHENIX Review 10 Design rules: -Minimum bending diameter of 55mm; -Maximum point-to-fiber distance of 27mm -WLS fibers uncut T2K tile design T2K Light collection uniformity Double sided Single sided sPHENIX tile design Response uniformity measurements with cosmic muons are now ongoing at INR