From Last time Berkeley defines physical objects as collections of ideas God has ideas which constitute objects not perceived by finite beings A proof of God’s existence based on the fact that we do not control our perceptual ideas.

Is the mind just a collection of ideas? Hylas says that since we can have no idea of a mind, there is no mind, only ideas Philonous rejects this saying that we have a notion (not an idea) of our self when we think or will. Do we have introspective awareness of our self as active? Or is “the self” just a bundle or collection of distinct ideas?

How is perceptual error possible? All ideas are real. But some ideas are more faint than others These are the ideas of imagination These are the ideas of imagination Some ideas fail to cohere with other ideas These ideas are “false perceptions” Example: The bent stick in water, hallucinated ants on the floor

The problem of Evil If God is the author of perceptual ideas, then God is the author of murder etc. Berkeley replies: Evil is found in the will, and God is not the author of evil intentions Guilt is the same whether the action is preformed “with or without an instrument” There might be other spirits who cause perceptual ideas (although this power is derived from God

Can God Feel Pain? Hylas: if God perceives all our perceptual ideas, then God must feel pain But feeling pain is an imperfection Berkeley agrees that God cannot feel pain God can know what pain is, but not feel it Further: God “perceives nothing by sense as we do” (p.74)

Two Questions IF God perceives objects in a non-sensible way, then how is the real physical world the same world we ordinarily perceive? It is possible to know what pain is without feeling it?

If God perceives things in a way alien to us, then the world, the real world as it is sustained by God, is just as unknowable as Hylas’ “ material substance”