Feedback on Learning Day How can we facilitate insights gained today with Circuits as well as in Districts? How can we facilitate insights gained today.

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Feedback on Learning Day How can we facilitate insights gained today with Circuits as well as in Districts? How can we facilitate insights gained today with Circuits as well as in Districts?

Different Approaches? NSM presbyter, in ecumenical situation. 4 Churches from different traditions, Meth. URC, CofE, Evangelical NSM presbyter, in ecumenical situation. 4 Churches from different traditions, Meth. URC, CofE, Evangelical When working together traditions seems 2ndry. When working together traditions seems 2ndry. It works because ‘Jesus is put 1 st ’ It works because ‘Jesus is put 1 st ’ Lots of ‘Godincedences’ bring opportunities. Support brings creativity. Lots of ‘Godincedences’ bring opportunities. Support brings creativity.

Different Worship Not totally radical – still on a Sunday, but café style. Informal. Sits alongside trad. Svc. Not totally radical – still on a Sunday, but café style. Informal. Sits alongside trad. Svc. Has shown that one size fits all isn’t appropriate. Has shown that one size fits all isn’t appropriate. New approach makes new demands New approach makes new demands Challenge of finding time for new approaches, must be priority? Challenge of finding time for new approaches, must be priority?

Strength for Vision Encouraging others happens slowly Encouraging others happens slowly Unwilling to join neighbours Unwilling to join neighbours Seems to happen at a very slow pace Seems to happen at a very slow pace Can a whole cycle of change by skipped? Can a whole cycle of change by skipped? Eg transfer trusteeship from Church to Circuit Eg transfer trusteeship from Church to Circuit The big challenge lies here? The big challenge lies here?

Consultation with Community Brings insight which challenges Brings insight which challenges Survey brought lack of response Survey brought lack of response Asks Q, ‘What is the response?’ Asks Q, ‘What is the response?’

Consultation within? A prority to avoid ‘fallout’ A prority to avoid ‘fallout’ Might take longer but important not to lose people along th way. Might take longer but important not to lose people along th way.

Leadership from the Front? Restructuring needed for Circuit that belongs to a previous generation - systems are no longer appropriate Restructuring needed for Circuit that belongs to a previous generation - systems are no longer appropriate Bold programme suggested: Bold programme suggested: Eliminating many Church Councils (22 < 3) Eliminating many Church Councils (22 < 3) Church Grouping proposed Church Grouping proposed Increase administration input to includ policy development Increase administration input to includ policy development Skilled worker employed to develop/address buildings issues for any Church in Circuit Skilled worker employed to develop/address buildings issues for any Church in Circuit Leading to both Chapel closures whilst the Church is growing and planting Leading to both Chapel closures whilst the Church is growing and planting

District Property Sec. Speaks… Risk in schemes is always to be mitigated against Risk in schemes is always to be mitigated against It is discouraged in our systems It is discouraged in our systems Can District address this and lobby Connexion? Can District address this and lobby Connexion?

New Ideas? Can we encourage our churches to face new ways through our leadership? Can we encourage our churches to face new ways through our leadership? Risk is part of our discipleship and should be revealed in our spirituality Risk is part of our discipleship and should be revealed in our spirituality

Peak Circuit In rural context small Community closures ‘unimaginable’ In rural context small Community closures ‘unimaginable’ How do Ecumenical links help? How do Ecumenical links help? Problems with ecumencial boundaries Problems with ecumencial boundaries Nb. That C.of E. is often now working with small number of churches Nb. That C.of E. is often now working with small number of churches

Joined up Working Approach in York & Hull that attempted to link ecumenical work and plan together Approach in York & Hull that attempted to link ecumenical work and plan together

Learning From Others Churches from ethinc groups have much to teach regarding essentials such as prayer Churches from ethinc groups have much to teach regarding essentials such as prayer

Value of Teamworking Pros and Cons with Teamworking Pros and Cons with Teamworking Sense of identification with a minister can be lost, causes pastoral problems? Sense of identification with a minister can be lost, causes pastoral problems? Preacher is a facilitor in this situation Preacher is a facilitor in this situation Prayer a priority, this is our business Prayer a priority, this is our business