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Doc.: IEEE /669r2 Submission July 2005 Charles R. Wright, Azimuth Systems, Inc.Slide 1 San Francisco Meeting Slides Notice: This document has been prepared to assist IEEE It is offered as a basis for discussion and is not binding on the contributing individual(s) or organization(s). The material in this document is subject to change in form and content after further study. The contributor(s) reserve(s) the right to add, amend or withdraw material contained herein. Release: The contributor grants a free, irrevocable license to the IEEE to incorporate material contained in this contribution, and any modifications thereof, in the creation of an IEEE Standards publication; to copyright in the IEEE’s name any IEEE Standards publication even though it may include portions of this contribution; and at the IEEE’s sole discretion to permit others to reproduce in whole or in part the resulting IEEE Standards publication. The contributor also acknowledges and accepts that this contribution may be made public by IEEE Patent Policy and Procedures: The contributor is familiar with the IEEE 802 Patent Policy and Procedures, including the statement "IEEE standards may include the known use of patent(s), including patent applications, provided the IEEE receives assurance from the patent holder or applicant with respect to patents essential for compliance with both mandatory and optional portions of the standard." Early disclosure to the Working Group of patent information that might be relevant to the standard is essential to reduce the possibility for delays in the development process and increase the likelihood that the draft publication will be approved for publication. Please notify the Chair as early as possible, in written or electronic form, if patented technology (or technology under patent application) might be incorporated into a draft standard being developed within the IEEE Working Group. If you have questions, contact the IEEE Patent Committee Administrator at. Date: Authors:

Doc.: IEEE /669r2 Submission July 2005 Charles R. Wright, Azimuth Systems, Inc.Slide 2 Charles R. Wright Welcome to TGT Evaluation of Wireless Performance

Doc.: IEEE /669r2 Submission July 2005 Charles R. Wright, Azimuth Systems, Inc.Slide 3 6. Patents IEEE standards may include the known use of patent(s), including patent applications, provided the IEEE receives assurance from the patent holder or applicant with respect to patents essential for compliance with both mandatory and optional portions of the standard. This assurance shall be provided without coercion and prior to approval of the standard (or reaffirmation when a patent becomes known after initial approval of the standard). This assurance shall be a letter that is in the form of either a) A general disclaimer to the effect that the patentee will not enforce any of its present or future patent(s) whose use would be required to implement the proposed IEEE standard against any person or entity using the patent(s) to comply with the standard or b) A statement that a license will be made available without compensation or under reasonable rates, with reasonable terms and conditions that are demonstrably free of any unfair discrimination This assurance shall apply, at a minimum, from the date of the standard's approval to the date of the standard's withdrawal and is irrevocable during that period. IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws on Patents in Standards Approved by IEEE-SA Standards Board – December 2002

Doc.: IEEE /669r2 Submission July 2005 Charles R. Wright, Azimuth Systems, Inc.Slide 4 At the December 2004 meeting of the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee (PatCom), Paul Nikolich (Chair, 802) on behalf of Stuart Kerry (Chair, )led discussion on an agenda item titled 'Discussion of P802.11n Protest'. You noted that some members of the P802.11n working group requested a clarification of policy from PatCom regarding what would be acceptable to discuss during a working group technical presentation, regarding patent information/statements. PatCom is charged with providing oversight for the use of patents and patent information in IEEE Standards. PatCom is also charged with reviewing patent information submitted to the IEEE Standards Department to determine conformity with patent procedures and guidelines. As empowered by the IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws, PatCom has reviewed the information presented and rendered its decision by interpreting the policies and procedures of the IEEE and the IEEE-SA relevant to the issues. In regards to the presentation of information to a standards development group, PatCom has decided the following: 1. After a patent letter of assurance (LoA) has been accepted by PatCom, it is allowable for a presenter to state that an LoA has been filed by a Patent Holder, accepted by PatCom, and listed in the online listing of LoAs at Anyone seeking a copy of the accepted LoA should contact the PatCom Administrator. 2. Discussion of the content of accepted, submitted, or proposed LoAs is prohibited. 3. Discussion of licensing terms and conditions is prohibited. Patent Committee Ruling – January 6, 2005

Doc.: IEEE /669r2 Submission July 2005 Charles R. Wright, Azimuth Systems, Inc.Slide 5 Approved by IEEE-SA Standards Board – December 2002 Inappropriate Topics for IEEE WG/TG/SG Meetings Don’t discuss licensing terms or conditions Don’t discuss product pricing, territorial restrictions or market share Don’t discuss ongoing litigation or threatened litigation Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed… do formally object. If you have questions, contact the IEEE Patent Committee Administrator at

Doc.: IEEE /669r2 Submission July 2005 Charles R. Wright, Azimuth Systems, Inc.Slide 6 A Friendly Reminder… The attendance server will not be in operation this week Attendance will be recorded on a sign-in sheet Between 7 AM and 6 PM, go to the 802 Concierge Desk and sign the sheet and indicate how many of the meetings that day you did or will attend Do this once a day

Doc.: IEEE /669r2 Submission July 2005 Charles R. Wright, Azimuth Systems, Inc.Slide 7 Meeting Objectives Elect a permanent secretary. Must be a voting member of Technical presentations. Suggested subjects: –Metrics and methodologies –RF testing environments –Device operating environments –Device configuration –Application performance –Definitions

Doc.: IEEE /669r2 Submission July 2005 Charles R. Wright, Azimuth Systems, Inc.Slide 8 Progress Since Cairns Editor incorporated approved proposal 11-05/450r1, “Calibrated Over The Air Test Methodology” into the draft –Draft 0.2 has been available for some time During June 2 nd telecon, discussed possibility of TG internal review of the draft, starting after July meeting –Should have a draft that is “complete enough” (TG opinion) –Won’t start until editor adds newly-accepted proposals

Doc.: IEEE /669r2 Submission July 2005 Charles R. Wright, Azimuth Systems, Inc.Slide 9 Proposed Agenda for San Francisco Meetings 1.Chair comments 2.Appoint secretary 3.Approval of agenda 4.Approve minutes /0509r0 – Cairns /571r1 – 6/2/05 Telecon 5.Call for presentations /723r0, P. Mehta, “Data usage proposal for TGT” (15 min) /661r0, S. Tolpin, “Conducted test environments, metrics and methodology” (proposal: 11-05/660r0, 120 min) /711r0, F. Pirzada, “OTAR test environments, metrics and metholodogy” (proposal: 11-05/712r0, 60 min) /676r0, T. Alexander, “Link layer metrics proposal” (proposal: 11-05/638r0, 30 min) /703r0, M. Emmelman, “Methodology for employing variable attenuators in a conducted test environment” (proposal: /702r0, 30 min) /719r0, M. Foegelle, “Environment simulation using s-parameters” (45 min) /757r0, 11-05/745r0 C. Trecker, C. Wright “Roaming Test Methodology” (proposal: 11-05/537r0, 45 min) /758r0, M. Kobayashi, “ACI test methodology” (proposal: 11-05/759r0, 30 min) 6.Presentations according to order above 7.Motions arising from previous presentations (to begin 4:00 Wednesday) 8.Old Business 1.Continuation of T. Alexander presentation 2.Chair action item: “create and circulate a procedural document showing how the TG internal review works” (deferred) 9.New business 1.Topics arising from previous meetings 2.Future telecons

Doc.: IEEE /669r2 Submission July 2005 Charles R. Wright, Azimuth Systems, Inc.Slide 10 Meeting Schedule for week Opening, confirm secretary, call for presentations, start presentations TGT Closing business TGT MondayTuesdayWednesdayThursday Lunch Dinner 8:00 10:00 10:30 12:30 1:30 3:30 4:00 6:00 7:30 9:30

Doc.: IEEE /669r2 Submission July 2005 Charles R. Wright, Azimuth Systems, Inc.Slide 11 Motion 1 Move to instruct the editor to include the contents of document 11-05/660r0 and document 11-05/712r0 into the TGT draft –In document 11-05/712r0, change item in Tables 1, 2, 3, 4, Item 4 to state: “At a fixed rate of 1 rpm with an accuracy of +/- 50%” Moved: Uriel Lemberger Second: Larry Green Motion passes: 24/0/7

Doc.: IEEE /669r2 Submission July 2005 Charles R. Wright, Azimuth Systems, Inc.Slide 12 New Business Discussion of work to be done on teleconferences (numbered 1-4) 1.Review of progress in SFO; opportunity for new presentations 2.New presentations 3.Begin review of draft D0.3 made available just after telecon 2 –Members to review draft offline and provide written comments and proposed solution –Technical changes cannnot be incorporated into the draft until after approval during meetings –Editorial changes can be made prior to that 4.Continue review of draft; last telecon before Sept meeting

Doc.: IEEE /669r2 Submission July 2005 Charles R. Wright, Azimuth Systems, Inc.Slide 13 Continued Work Things that we need in our draft that people are volunteering to work on: –Total Radiated Power, Total Isotropic Sensitivity: M. Foegelle –Equivalent cabled test for power, sensitivity: M. Foegelle –Voice test suite, pkt loss, delay, jitter and context for using these (e.g., ITU e-model): F. Mlinarsky, roaming metric, C. Wright –ACI update, M. Kobayashi

Doc.: IEEE /669r2 Submission July 2005 Charles R. Wright, Azimuth Systems, Inc.Slide 14 Telecons between July and September meetings Motion to empower TGT to hold telecons –Time: 12 noon Eastern (US) time –Duration: 1 hour –Dates: July 28 th, Aug 11 th, Aug 25 th, Sept 8 th Moved/second: M. Foegelle, P. Mehta Yes: 12 No: 0 Abstain: 1

Doc.: IEEE /669r2 Submission July 2005 Charles R. Wright, Azimuth Systems, Inc.Slide 15 Backup Information

Doc.: IEEE /669r2 Submission July 2005 Charles R. Wright, Azimuth Systems, Inc.Slide 16 “First list of metrics” I realized that slide 6 of 11-05/378r3 contained a list of metrics These metrics have been discussed in presentations in the past Therefore, let’s call this our “first list of metrics” and then assign individuals to create proposals It seemed to make sense to assign the authors of these original presentations to be those to create the proposals Naturally, we are all volunteers, but we’re not going to get a worthwhile draft without proposals! The assignees are welcome to develop a proposal that addresses the metric, or to let us know if it turns out the metric is not actually useful

Doc.: IEEE /669r2 Submission July 2005 Charles R. Wright, Azimuth Systems, Inc.Slide 17 First list of metrics and their “stuckees” Layer 2 metrics (11-04/1226r1, 11-05/033r0) –Throughput, forwarding rate, loss, latency, jitter, others –Stuckee: Tom Alexander, Fanny Mlinarsky Rate vs. Range (11-04/1397, 11-05/033r0) –Or other link layer parameters vs. range –Stuckee: Fanny Mlinarsky Rate adaptation (11-04/1466r1) –Mike Goettemuller, maybe? BSS transition time (11-04/989r1, 11-05/0233r2) –AKA “roaming time” –Stuckee: Charles Wright, Marc Emmelmann Adjacent Channel Interference (11-04/215r0) –Stuckee: Mark Kobayashi Diversity (11-05/194r0) –Stuckee: Sasha Tolpin RF over-the-air performance (11-04/092r1? 11-04/1402r0?) –Stuckee: Michael Foegelle Added in 6/2/05 telecon

Doc.: IEEE /669r2 Submission July 2005 Charles R. Wright, Azimuth Systems, Inc.Slide 18 TGT Approved Document List 11-04/1553r2, “Guidelines for TGT Formal Metric and Methodology Proposals”

Doc.: IEEE /669r2 Submission July 2005 Charles R. Wright, Azimuth Systems, Inc.Slide 19 Teleconference Info Date: Thursdays Time: 12 AM Eastern time (1600 UT) Duration: 1 hour Phone # International: Passcode: Next: TBD

Doc.: IEEE /669r2 Submission July 2005 Charles R. Wright, Azimuth Systems, Inc.Slide 20 Reflector reflectors: stds –Requires membership to send to it Getting on the reflectors –Send an to Harry Worstel with a cc to Al Petrick and Stuart Kerry requesting to be put on the Instructions are contained in every reflector posting for customizing your reflector experience (including unsubscribing) rules require all TG communication to be through reflector

Doc.: IEEE /669r2 Submission July 2005 Charles R. Wright, Azimuth Systems, Inc.Slide 21 References for Newcomers (1 of 2) Web site: – Document server: – –Sign up for an account –No need to be an member to get an account –Once logged in, “join” : Click on “ WLAN WG” on left In center window, choose to become a new member –Click again on “ WLAN WG” An additional subitem called “Documents” will be revealed – click on it –You’ve reached the document server!

Doc.: IEEE /669r2 Submission July 2005 Charles R. Wright, Azimuth Systems, Inc.Slide 22 References for Newcomers (2 of 2) Document numbering scheme –WG-YY-NNNN-RR-gggg-English-document-title.ext WG = 802 working group number, e.g. “11” as in YY = two digits of year NNNN = document number RR = document revision number gggg = group to which the document pertains –Example: wpp-telecon-agenda-19-feb-04.ppt