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1 IPR Issues: What ’ s New (and a little of what ’ s old) Scott Brim sbrim@cisco.com IETF 61

2 IETF IPR policy RFC 3667 – BCP, rights in contributions RFC 3668 – BCP, rights in technology RFC 3669 – INF, WG guidelines

3 Old Stuff

4 Individual responsibility Must disclose own IPR in “ contributions ” from self and others. “ Reasonably and personally known ”. “ As soon as reasonably possible ” after “ realize ” something is going to be incorporated into a draft. Escape by not participating.

5 However … IPR claims can come from anywhere at any time. Validity of claim is only determined in the courts. Licensing terms are more important than claims. Need not disclose licensing terms ever.

6 What ’ s a WG to do? Every WG is different. IPR is just a criterion, like scalability. Look for IPR early and often. No judgement of IPR claim validity. Can ’ t be sure, but rarely need to be. Evaluate risk.

7 When to ask about IPR When examining a technology, and deciding whether to initiate work on it. When deciding whether to adopt a draft as a working group document. When choosing between two or more working group drafts that use different technologies. When deciding whether to depend on a technology developed outside the working group.

8 Common licensing terms License not required. Licensed with no restrictions. Licensed with restrictions (e.g. GPL) Licensed solely for implementations complying with a standard. IPR licensed under “ reasonable and non- discriminatory terms ” (RAND, nearly meaningless), with or without royalty fees. Reciprocity and defensive suspension.

9 Evaluate Risk Risk depends on critical nature of IPR, TTL of IPR, history, … Take claims seriously. Push hard to get more information.

10 Third-party disclosure Avoid DoS attack through rumormongering … but take every suggestion seriously. Balance discipline and encouragement (as usual) to get the right level of third- party disclosure.

11 Keep other WGs in mind when discover IPR. when receive a third-party disclosure suggestion.

12 Summary Think about IPR early and often. Evaluate risk, like any other factor. Licensing terms are most important. There ’ s a lot more in the drafts. Talk about real world problems and solutions.

13 New Stuff

14 What ’ s New? New disclosure post and search tools. Slight edits to 3667 (and 3668). Timing of submission and disclosure. “ Each author ”. -> 3907, 3908. RFC 3905 (template). Draft-savola-ipr-lastcall-05.txt. More experience. More consistency.

15 IPR is more powerful than technical issues If someone raises a bogus technical issue, the WG knows what to do. If someone raises a bogus IPR issue, we often fall apart for a while. An IPR threat can be used to reopen a technical issue.

16 IPR queries at last calls? No because … Do not want an IPR argument at last calls. IPR can come at any time, last call is a snapshot. IPR is just one criterion, like scalability. It already has too much power.

17 Claimants don ’ t know their impact Sometimes they don ’ t realize what a huge effect their terms have. Go ahead and tell them: “ if you don ’ t change this, you will lose ”.

18 IPR strategies can change A claimant may start out with one agenda but change it. During the course of discussion, or even after the WG has concluded. Terms can be made looser, but legally hard to make them tighter.

19 Err on the side of disclosure Participants are not omniscient. They cannot know legally whether something does or does not infringe, and they ’ re not lawyers (usually).

20 Similar licenses would help IPR claimants would benefit from using licensing terms that look like those that have already been discussed by WGs. Some know this already.

21 Trademarks Under discussion What should be in drafts? What should be in disclosures?

22 “ Crusaders ” Crusaders (outside agitators, parachuters, “ free radicals ” ) can be very disruptive. What should a chair do about them?

23 Discussion? Other Issues? (What time is it?)


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