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1 Master’s vs. Ph.D.: Which one to choose? How far to go?
Kathleen Fisher, Tufts University Linda Apsley, Microsoft

2 Revisiting Choices Given that you are at the end of your first year in either a Ph.D. or MS program, the questions are: Am I in the “right” program for me, based on a better understanding of What I want (what I love / what I dislike) in the graduate school experience? What I want as a future career path? If not, then how do I get onto the “right” track? Carla will talk about the grad school experience Laura will talk about career considerations in your choice of degree

3 Kathleen’s Story Education
B.S. and Ph.D. Stanford University (1991, 1996) Positions AT&T Labs Research ( ) Tufts University ( present) Research Programming Language Theory, Domain-specific languages, ad hoc data management Service CRA-W, CRA, SIGPLAN, ACM SGB, JFP,… Family Married to Steve ( ) Elaine born (1992) Married to Bob ( present) Fun Ballroom dancing, studying Italian, traveling, cooking, watching hockey But first…introductions of ourselves

4 Linda’s Story Education B.A., Organizational Behavior, BYU (1982)
MBA, City Univ. of Seattle (2008) Positions Comm. College CS Part-Time Faculty ( ) Tester, Technical Writer, Microsoft ( ) Technical Program Manager, Microsoft ( ) Group Program Manager, Microsoft ( ) Director of Program Management, Microsoft (2008-now) Specialties Enterprise computing: design and deployment Business and technical strategy Incubating new technology and teams Service Hopper’s, Women of Windows, Boy Scouts Family Married to Richard ( ) Married to John ( now) Three sons (Allan, Patrick, John) Three daughters (Arwyn, Julianna, Suzye) Fun Ballet, bicycling, cooking, reading

5 Grad School Paths Job industry / startup Reapply -based MS course
MS thesis project Switch You are at the end of your 1st year in grad school whether you are in a PhD or MS program at the moment. The first year experience is very similar among most programs – taking grad level courses Degree programs are about to diverge. PhD First year Job lab / academia coursework to dissertation

6 Experience of Course-Based Master’s Degree
Your educational goal: to acquire more knowledge (breadth & some depth) in the field via coursework. Specialize in CSE courses more than in undergrad program Select courses to match your interests (and, do well in your courses) Short time to get what you need: Job-hunting soon after starting the program Cultivate & extend professional network Reference letters? Future PhD advisers?

7 Experience of Research-Based Master’s Degree
Your educational goals: To acquire depth and project skills via Master’s thesis under supervision of advisor To get a taste of research (to decide about eventually pursuing PhD) Research component is similar to Ph.D., but… May be more “development” rather than innovative & deep independent research May result in 0-1 published papers, rather than 3 or more Choices (of adviser, project, etc.) have lower stakes: You’re committing to 1-2 years, rather than ~5.

8 Experience of Ph.D. Degree
Your educational goal: To do original high-impact research To learn the skills needed to be a contributing member of the research community Technical, soft skills, and culture Long process (4-6 years), multiple phases Predictable challenges and stress points I Research

9 Grad School Paths Choose advisor Qualifying exams Thesis proposal
Submit papers Write dissertation Job hunt -based MS course MS thesis project The PhD experience consists of a sequence of hurdles during the years. PhD First year Job lab / academia coursework to dissertation

10 Experience of the Ph.D. Write & defend thesis
Pick advisor, move from coursework to research Reviewer comments First submission Advisor stress Pick a Topic Quals Job interview invitations It’s really more like this. CRA-W Grad Cohort Workshop 2005

11 Lessons from the Roller Coaster
The ride is similar for most people You are qualified for the ride. It’s scary for everyone. You aren’t alone. Share your experiences. It takes externally applied energy for the uphills Your advisor will be a key person (later session on this). Seek support from many sources (technical, emotional) There are a lot of downhill sections Frustration & doubt are guaranteed. Things can go wrong. Momentum is important Keep moving forward. No side trips to distract.

12 Setting Research Goals
PhD Research requires redefining success Class performance is not as important as before In research, nobody knows the answer! And half the challenge is in asking good questions! You’re in the pilot seat not yet sure of your destination need a capable crew to help you fly Network, mentors, friends. Discourse in graduate school very different from discourse in an undergraduate class. Then, you learned the cannon, the wisdom passed down from the sages. Now, it’s normal to pick apart conventional wisdom; indeed it is often by working to fix weaknesses in current knowledge that you can make new contributions

13 Career Paths -based MS course MS thesis project PhD First year
Development jobs in industry; Create a startup; Project manager Research in industry or government labs; Project leadership in industry; Create a startup; University research/ teaching -based MS course MS thesis project Context switch to Linda Maybe what you want to do as a career will be a determining factor in your degree choice. PhD First year coursework to dissertation

14 Career Opportunities with Master’s Degree
Types of jobs you can do in industry with a Master’s Operations Consulting Install and administer software Technical support/troubleshooting Web site management Product or application development Design, code and/or test new software User interface design, human factors analysis and test Write technical documentation Program or product management, marketing Project management Research support (very similar to product development) Contribute to prototyping new software ideas and to publications List from Hristova/Schultz GC 07

15 Types of Employers of Master’s Degree Holders
Information Technology (IT) companies Software or hardware or services companies Start-ups Spectrum of established companies (small to big) Companies in other industries Banking, insurance, telecommunications, healthcare, environmental engineering, manufacturing, travel, … EVERY industry needs software engineers today Universities Typically in support roles Actually, these are employers of MS and PhDs, in general. Sequence isn’t perfect here. But I think we can have it here and refer back to it later.

16 Course vs. Research Master’s
Course Master’s Breadth of knowledge may qualify you for marketing, project management, product management roles But if that’s what you want, take some business classes! Lack of major project may be a handicap for development roles Research Master’s Deep project may qualify you for more interesting development roles Potentially channeled more into development Much more attractive for a research lab position Thesis will help with publications Not sure there’s enough difference to be worth a chart?

17 Career Ladders in Industry
Technical Entry level: implement parts of products designed by others Mid-level: lead design of product components Senior: lead product design and implementation Management 1st line: Direct single project/component to successful conclusion Mid-level: oversee several related projects Executive: oversee product and corporate strategy

18 One View of the Technical Ladder in Industry
Level Contribution and Impact Scope and Ownership Who Knows You Are a Leader Fellow Major industry or market impact Major corporate initiative CEO knows you Distinguished Engineer Major group impact Major group initiative Many VPs know you Senior Tech. Staff Member Major division impact Major division initiative Your Sr. VP knows you Senior Major line of business (LOB) impact Major LOB initiative Your LOB director knows you Advisory Major product impact (or research area) Major product initiative Your department head knows you Staff Major department impact Major department initiative Your manager knows you Entry Major team impact Major team initiative Your team knows you Needed? Haven’t addressed the ladder for industry until now… and we do for academia. This is not necessarily part of PhD, though. I’m not sure what is particular for PhD except Research staff roles.

19 Career Opportunities with Ph.D. Degree
I Research & Teaching (?) Research or advanced development in industrial research labs Development leadership roles in industry Technical project management / leadership Academic research and teaching in a university as a professor

20 Industry Career: Research and Industry Impact
Engage in scientific discovery, collaborate with peers, fund research (but typically later in career, possibly internal funding) May involve university faculty and students Develop creative thinking around technical solutions to problems Technology Transfer Contribute to company’s products, client engagements, open source… Demonstrate strong problem-solving skills Publish work and engage with academia Service Departmental (hiring committee, e.g) Company-wide (promotion review board) Professional Expected to do all three well!

21 What can I do now to prepare for a job in industry?
Complete a project(s) Will make you a more interesting candidate Get an internship(s) Try out a corporate culture, job type, industry Experience counts a lot! Acquire key skills Building your professional network, communication, negotiation, making yourself visible Find a mentor(s) Provides a useful perspective Hristova/Schultz GC 07 Same argument as for slide #18, but some of this is good to know before the job hunt... And we have the analogous chart for academia, same reasoning.

22 Finding Industry Jobs Identify organizations of interest and do internships – real world and specific organization experience is valued Know what positions are within your scope and focus on the right type of position for you Plug into on-campus recruiting at your school Apply through formal methods, but try to make contact with people who will get your resume into the right hands Conferences, conferences, conferences – employers attend conferences specifically to find you Network with friends, colleagues, and friends of friends to make contacts and get a foot in the door Consider startup organizations – higher risk, but greater potential for increasing the scope of your responsibilities Demonstrate good communication skills in addition to technical savvy Ask for what you want! Hristova/Schultz GC 07 We have too much material – while this is a good chart it’s somewhat off topic, and more pertinent for 3rd years – where, in fact, there is a session. I’d omit this.

23 Academic Career: Research, Teaching and Service
engage in scientific discovery, involve graduate and undergraduate students, fund research Teaching active teaching, mentoring, advising Service Departmental University Professional No matter what type of educational instuition you chose to work in, there are 3 functions you must provide Expected to do all three well!

24 Different Types of Colleges
Research universities: Ph.D. program - emphasize research – but teaching, service important Colleges/universities: M.S. program- emphasize teaching – but research & service also important Selective liberal arts colleges: B.S. program – emphasize teaching with research a close second, but service important Teaching-oriented colleges: B.S. program – emphasize teaching & service but research can be expected

25 Academic Career Ladder
Professorial Ranks Assistant Associate Full Chaired Professor – endowed Administrative Ranks Department Chair, Dean, Provost, President Instructor – teaching & service Postdoctoral positions - research

26 What can I do now to prepare for an academic job?
Research Apprenticeship: learn from adviser, doing it, and others How do ideas come? How to organize research? Teaching Teaching experience, teach some even if don’t have to Service Organizing student organizations/support groups – Women in CS Working on department committees Volunteering at conferences

27 Moving Between Research Lab and Academia
From University to Industry Must build real systems Establish visibility and knowledge in industry From Industry to University Must continue publishing Establish visibility in research community

28 Thank you! Questions?

29 Progressing in Research
How to choose good problems How to make progress Relax: your adviser often gives you first research problem. Balance: concrete enough to make progress ↔ far-reaching enough to be research. Read: In other papers, think of what the authors didn’t do. Notice: challenges that make your research hard. These may be future research opportunities. Break the big problem into steps Then break the first few steps into even more steps Eventually: a to-do list becomes a roadmap for what to accomplish each day. Use meetings with your adviser effectively: listen, take notes, follow-up. Extra/hidden slide borrowed from old talk

30 Progressing in Research
How to choose good problems How to make progress The real research challenge: Remaining confident, effective and happy while walking along an unmarked path to an unknown destination of unknown payoff ! Relax: your adviser often gives you first research problem. Balance: concrete enough to make progress ↔ far-reaching enough to be research. Read: In other papers, think of what the authors didn’t do. Notice: challenges that make your research hard. These may be future research opportunities. Break the big problem into steps Then break the first few steps into even more steps Eventually: a to-do list becomes a roadmap for what to accomplish each day. Use meetings with your adviser effectively: listen, take notes, follow-up. Extra/hidden slide borrowed from old talk

31 Example of Different Expectations
Research Institution: 60% - 80% Research 10% - 35% Teaching 5% - 10% Service Teaching-oriented College: % Teaching % Professional Development % Service Extra/hidden slide borrowed from old talk


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